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The Chanelle Henning Murder Trial
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blunomore
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I do not understand why someone would sit in jail for years and years (getting abused, raped, having your health and sanity destroyed) for money.
R13...
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In Moodley's case this is likely the case as the murder was committed for money of which they only got a fraction of.
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you think people are like normal thinking person like you (don't do harm etc). But you get people that have nothing/hard/abused/crazy/insane/twisted.
People who would rape/murder without blinking. These guy(s) managed to kill (get involved and be a part of a murder) an innocent person.. I think they are long passed "normal"... so going to jail is not an issue for them. Life by the sword..die by it
We (you and me) would not even think about getting involved in crime/murder... these guys did it. Nobody forced them (I presume)..
supersunbird
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Henning murder-accused found guilty:
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Henning-murder-accused-found-guilty-20131125
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Henning-murder-accused-found-guilty-20131125
APoc184
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JUSTICE AT LAST!
Some of you know about my extra interest in this case and this is such awesome news for our family and also all the other families he ruined!
We truly hope this Nigerian rots in jail and then in hell!
Some of you know about my extra interest in this case and this is such awesome news for our family and also all the other families he ruined!
We truly hope this Nigerian rots in jail and then in hell!
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Two guilty in Henning murder trial
Former Nigerian olympic athlete Ambrose Monye and businessman Andre Gouws were found guilty by the High Court in Pretoria on Monday of the contract murder of Chanelle Henning.
Henning had just dropped her son off at his creche in Faerie Glen, Pretoria, when she was shot dead by two men on a motorcycle on November 8, 2011.
She was at the time involved in a custody battle with her former husband, Nico, who was a close friend of Gouws.
Former policeman Gerhardus du Plessis and his friend Willem Pieterse are serving 18-year prison sentences after confessing to the murder.
Judge Johan Kruger accepted their evidence that Monye and Gouws had arranged the murder.
He said Monye and Gouws's claim that Du Plessis and Pieterse had acted on their own was not reasonably possibly true.
Kruger said their versions that the two killers had been employed either as bouncers or to do surveillance on Henning in an attempt to catch her with drugs were "concocted afterthoughts" designed to hide their own complicity in the murder.
He said Henning's murder was a "classic contract killing" with Du Plessis and Pieterse as instruments who carried out the hit on the instructions of Monye and Gouws.
He found that Gouws wanted Henning killed and had asked Monye to obtain the services of two men willing to do the job.
Gouws had agreed to pay Monye, who in turn obtained the services of Pieterse and later Du Plessis.
Gouws was the instigator of the murder and Monye supplied the people to do the job.
Monye had informed Du Plessis and Pieterse of the job and Gouws had provided the information about the victim that was necessary to complete it.
Monye's conduct up to the murder was that of a person who was not only aware of the plan, but of someone who had actively participated in the plot to kill.
Kruger said without Gouws's involvement, Monye would have had no reason, motive or even the necessary information to arrange the murder.
All the participants were aware of the purpose of Du Plessis and Pieterse's introduction to Gouws, who showed the two killers where the murder had to be committed.
After a failed attempt on November 3, because the killers lacked the necessary information, Monye had arranged a meeting between them and Gouws so that Gouws could give them more information.
Monye had urged the two killers to "go and do the job", which confirmed that he had fully associated himself with their objective.
At this meeting Gouws spoke to Nico Henning and found out that Chanelle's child would be with her for the weekend, which was why the murder was arranged for the Monday as Gouws did not want her killed in front of her child.
Pieterse left to do the job alone on the morning of November 7 after Du Plessis withdrew, but Du Plessis changed his mind after Monye threatened to kill his family and even his dog.
Immediately after the murder on November 8, Pieterse had informed Monye, who in turn informed Gouws.
Kruger found that Monye referred to Du Plessis after the murder as "killer boy" and roped in the services of one of his security guards to pay part of the payment he received from Gouws into his bank account.
He said despite Monye and Gouws's knowledge of the murder, both failed to inform the police due to their own complicity in planning and executing the murder.
"If ever there had been a case where direct intent existed, this is such a case," said Kruger.
He said it would be wrong to find the two guilty of conspiracy to murder as well, as the charges of conspiracy and murder merged.
He also found Gouws and Monye not guilty of illegal possession of firearms and ammunition as the State could not prove that either had ever been in possession of the murder weapon.
Kruger made it clear that he did not want to comment on Nico Henning's possible involvement in the murder.
"Nico Henning was not an accused, nor did he testify... He had no opportunity to respond to or to explain any of the allegations against him.
"Fairness dictates that I shall not try a man in his absence," he said.
Chanelle's mother Sharon Saincic said the matter was not over as "the man behind the whole thing" was not in front of court.
"Andre Gouws did not act on his own. We know that," she said.
Saincic said she was satisfied that two huge criminals had been removed from the street and that a lot of other people's lives would at least be spared, even if it would not bring back her daughter.
Sentencing proceedings will start on Wednesday.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/ks/jk
Date : 25 Nov 2013 16:15
Former Nigerian olympic athlete Ambrose Monye and businessman Andre Gouws were found guilty by the High Court in Pretoria on Monday of the contract murder of Chanelle Henning.
Henning had just dropped her son off at his creche in Faerie Glen, Pretoria, when she was shot dead by two men on a motorcycle on November 8, 2011.
She was at the time involved in a custody battle with her former husband, Nico, who was a close friend of Gouws.
Former policeman Gerhardus du Plessis and his friend Willem Pieterse are serving 18-year prison sentences after confessing to the murder.
Judge Johan Kruger accepted their evidence that Monye and Gouws had arranged the murder.
He said Monye and Gouws's claim that Du Plessis and Pieterse had acted on their own was not reasonably possibly true.
Kruger said their versions that the two killers had been employed either as bouncers or to do surveillance on Henning in an attempt to catch her with drugs were "concocted afterthoughts" designed to hide their own complicity in the murder.
He said Henning's murder was a "classic contract killing" with Du Plessis and Pieterse as instruments who carried out the hit on the instructions of Monye and Gouws.
He found that Gouws wanted Henning killed and had asked Monye to obtain the services of two men willing to do the job.
Gouws had agreed to pay Monye, who in turn obtained the services of Pieterse and later Du Plessis.
Gouws was the instigator of the murder and Monye supplied the people to do the job.
Monye had informed Du Plessis and Pieterse of the job and Gouws had provided the information about the victim that was necessary to complete it.
Monye's conduct up to the murder was that of a person who was not only aware of the plan, but of someone who had actively participated in the plot to kill.
Kruger said without Gouws's involvement, Monye would have had no reason, motive or even the necessary information to arrange the murder.
All the participants were aware of the purpose of Du Plessis and Pieterse's introduction to Gouws, who showed the two killers where the murder had to be committed.
After a failed attempt on November 3, because the killers lacked the necessary information, Monye had arranged a meeting between them and Gouws so that Gouws could give them more information.
Monye had urged the two killers to "go and do the job", which confirmed that he had fully associated himself with their objective.
At this meeting Gouws spoke to Nico Henning and found out that Chanelle's child would be with her for the weekend, which was why the murder was arranged for the Monday as Gouws did not want her killed in front of her child.
Pieterse left to do the job alone on the morning of November 7 after Du Plessis withdrew, but Du Plessis changed his mind after Monye threatened to kill his family and even his dog.
Immediately after the murder on November 8, Pieterse had informed Monye, who in turn informed Gouws.
Kruger found that Monye referred to Du Plessis after the murder as "killer boy" and roped in the services of one of his security guards to pay part of the payment he received from Gouws into his bank account.
He said despite Monye and Gouws's knowledge of the murder, both failed to inform the police due to their own complicity in planning and executing the murder.
"If ever there had been a case where direct intent existed, this is such a case," said Kruger.
He said it would be wrong to find the two guilty of conspiracy to murder as well, as the charges of conspiracy and murder merged.
He also found Gouws and Monye not guilty of illegal possession of firearms and ammunition as the State could not prove that either had ever been in possession of the murder weapon.
Kruger made it clear that he did not want to comment on Nico Henning's possible involvement in the murder.
"Nico Henning was not an accused, nor did he testify... He had no opportunity to respond to or to explain any of the allegations against him.
"Fairness dictates that I shall not try a man in his absence," he said.
Chanelle's mother Sharon Saincic said the matter was not over as "the man behind the whole thing" was not in front of court.
"Andre Gouws did not act on his own. We know that," she said.
Saincic said she was satisfied that two huge criminals had been removed from the street and that a lot of other people's lives would at least be spared, even if it would not bring back her daughter.
Sentencing proceedings will start on Wednesday.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/ks/jk
Date : 25 Nov 2013 16:15
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
New twist in Henning murder case
Johannesburg - The Chanelle Henning murder trial took a new turn on Wednesday when one of the killers offered to help with investigations into who else was involved in the crime.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel disclosed this to the High Court in Pretoria as sentencing proceedings were about to get underway.
He asked the court to remove one of the convicted, Andre Gouws, to the Villieria police station so that he could consult his attorney.
The matter was postponed to December 5.
The court had been scheduled to start hearing sentencing proceedings on Wednesday after finding Gouws and former Nigerian Olympic athlete Ambrose Monye guilty of the contract murder of Henning.
Henning, 26, was shot dead in Faerie Glen in November 2011, shortly after dropping off her child at creche.
Gouws and Monye had pleaded not guilty to five charges relating to an alleged conspiracy to commit the murder.
The State had argued that Monye and Gouws conspired with former policeman Gerhardus “Doepie” du Plessis and Willem “Pike” Pieterse (alias Tattoo).
Du Plessis and Pieterse are serving 18-year prison terms after confessing to their roles in the murder.
In his testimony, Gouws admitted that Chanelle's husband, Nico Henning asked him to watch her to see if she used drugs.
The couple was going through a divorce and was fighing about custody of their child.
Henning's mother, Sharon Saincic, said it was a bitter-sweet day for her and that she missed her daughter terribly and nothing would bring her back.
Her father, Ivan, said this was the first good thing Gouws had done up to now and he was very happy about the new development.
- Sapa
Johannesburg - The Chanelle Henning murder trial took a new turn on Wednesday when one of the killers offered to help with investigations into who else was involved in the crime.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel disclosed this to the High Court in Pretoria as sentencing proceedings were about to get underway.
He asked the court to remove one of the convicted, Andre Gouws, to the Villieria police station so that he could consult his attorney.
The matter was postponed to December 5.
The court had been scheduled to start hearing sentencing proceedings on Wednesday after finding Gouws and former Nigerian Olympic athlete Ambrose Monye guilty of the contract murder of Henning.
Henning, 26, was shot dead in Faerie Glen in November 2011, shortly after dropping off her child at creche.
Gouws and Monye had pleaded not guilty to five charges relating to an alleged conspiracy to commit the murder.
The State had argued that Monye and Gouws conspired with former policeman Gerhardus “Doepie” du Plessis and Willem “Pike” Pieterse (alias Tattoo).
Du Plessis and Pieterse are serving 18-year prison terms after confessing to their roles in the murder.
In his testimony, Gouws admitted that Chanelle's husband, Nico Henning asked him to watch her to see if she used drugs.
The couple was going through a divorce and was fighing about custody of their child.
Henning's mother, Sharon Saincic, said it was a bitter-sweet day for her and that she missed her daughter terribly and nothing would bring her back.
Her father, Ivan, said this was the first good thing Gouws had done up to now and he was very happy about the new development.
- Sapa
supersunbird
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Hope justice gets served by this...
blunomore
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So Henning will get ratted out by his friend.
supersunbird
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supersunbird
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Doesn't scare me, as long as the real bastard behind it get his just deserts.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Gouws takes the stand
A man convicted of murdering Pretoria mother Chanelle Henning took the stand in the High Court in Pretoria on Thursday.
Dressed in a black tracksuit pants and turquoise T-shirt Andre Gouws stood casually giving the court a summary of his background.
The court heard that Gouws, 49, decided to "do what is right" after looking at his daily Bible study book "Wat sal Jesus doen? [What would Jesus do?]".
On November 27, the trial took a new turn when the convicted murderer offered to help with investigations into who else was involved in the murder.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel disclosed this in court as sentencing proceedings were about to get underway and asked the court to remove Gouws to the Villieria police station so that he could consult his attorney.
The court was scheduled to start sentencing proceedings after finding Gouws and former Nigerian Olympic athlete Ambrose Monye guilty of the contract murder of Henning.
Henning, 26, was shot dead in Faerie Glen in November 2011, shortly after dropping off her child at a creche.
Gouws and Monye pleaded had not guilty to five charges relating to an alleged conspiracy to commit the murder.
The State had argued that Monye and Gouws conspired with former policeman Gerhardus "Doepie" du Plessis and Willem "Pike" Pieterse (alias Tattoo).
Du Plessis and Pieterse are serving 18-year prison terms after confessing to their roles in the murder.
In his testimony, Gouws admitted that Chanelle's husband Nico Henning asked him to watch her to see if she used drugs.
They were going through a divorce and fighting about custody of their child.
Source : Sapa /dm/aa/jk
Date : 05 Dec 2013 10:58
A man convicted of murdering Pretoria mother Chanelle Henning took the stand in the High Court in Pretoria on Thursday.
Dressed in a black tracksuit pants and turquoise T-shirt Andre Gouws stood casually giving the court a summary of his background.
The court heard that Gouws, 49, decided to "do what is right" after looking at his daily Bible study book "Wat sal Jesus doen? [What would Jesus do?]".
On November 27, the trial took a new turn when the convicted murderer offered to help with investigations into who else was involved in the murder.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel disclosed this in court as sentencing proceedings were about to get underway and asked the court to remove Gouws to the Villieria police station so that he could consult his attorney.
The court was scheduled to start sentencing proceedings after finding Gouws and former Nigerian Olympic athlete Ambrose Monye guilty of the contract murder of Henning.
Henning, 26, was shot dead in Faerie Glen in November 2011, shortly after dropping off her child at a creche.
Gouws and Monye pleaded had not guilty to five charges relating to an alleged conspiracy to commit the murder.
The State had argued that Monye and Gouws conspired with former policeman Gerhardus "Doepie" du Plessis and Willem "Pike" Pieterse (alias Tattoo).
Du Plessis and Pieterse are serving 18-year prison terms after confessing to their roles in the murder.
In his testimony, Gouws admitted that Chanelle's husband Nico Henning asked him to watch her to see if she used drugs.
They were going through a divorce and fighting about custody of their child.
Source : Sapa /dm/aa/jk
Date : 05 Dec 2013 10:58
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Gouws breaks down as he blames Henning
A man convicted of murdering Pretoria mother Chanelle Henning broke down in the High Court in Pretoria on Thursday when he fingered her husband Nico for her murder.
"Nico Henning, her husband, commanded me to get her killed," Andre Gouws said in Afrikaans as he started crying.
"The motive for the murder was to get full custody of [their child]...," he said.
Wearing black tracksuit pants and a turquoise T-shirt, Gouws said he would testify against his best friend.
He said Nico Henning had feared that he would not get full custody of the child, and had previously asked for his help portraying his wife in a bad light.
The court heard that Henning had previously asked Gouws to kill his brother after they had a disagreement.
He said Henning offered him R1 million to order the hit on his wife.
Earlier, the court heard that Gouws, 49, decided to do what was right after looking at his daily Bible study book "What would Jesus do?"
On November 27, the trial took a new turn when Gouws offered to help with investigations into who else was involved with the murder.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel disclosed this in court when sentencing proceedings were about to start, and he asked the court to remove Gouws to the Villieria police station so he could consult his attorney.
The court was scheduled to start hearing sentencing proceedings after finding Gouws and former Nigerian Olympic athlete Ambrose Monye guilty of the contract murder of Henning.
Henning, 26, was shot dead in Faerie Glen in November 2011, shortly after dropping off her child at a creche.
Gouws and Monye pleaded not guilty to five charges relating to an alleged conspiracy to commit the murder.
The State argued that Monye and Gouws conspired with former policeman Gerhardus "Doepie" du Plessis and Willem "Pike" Pieterse (alias Tattoo).
Du Plessis and Pieterse are serving 18-year prison terms after confessing to their roles in the murder.
In his testimony, Gouws admitted that Chanelle's husband asked him to watch her to see if she used drugs. The couple was divorcing and was fighting over custody of their child.
The case continues.
Source : Sapa /dm/aa/jje/cls
Date : 05 Dec 2013 11:13
A man convicted of murdering Pretoria mother Chanelle Henning broke down in the High Court in Pretoria on Thursday when he fingered her husband Nico for her murder.
"Nico Henning, her husband, commanded me to get her killed," Andre Gouws said in Afrikaans as he started crying.
"The motive for the murder was to get full custody of [their child]...," he said.
Wearing black tracksuit pants and a turquoise T-shirt, Gouws said he would testify against his best friend.
He said Nico Henning had feared that he would not get full custody of the child, and had previously asked for his help portraying his wife in a bad light.
The court heard that Henning had previously asked Gouws to kill his brother after they had a disagreement.
He said Henning offered him R1 million to order the hit on his wife.
Earlier, the court heard that Gouws, 49, decided to do what was right after looking at his daily Bible study book "What would Jesus do?"
On November 27, the trial took a new turn when Gouws offered to help with investigations into who else was involved with the murder.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel disclosed this in court when sentencing proceedings were about to start, and he asked the court to remove Gouws to the Villieria police station so he could consult his attorney.
The court was scheduled to start hearing sentencing proceedings after finding Gouws and former Nigerian Olympic athlete Ambrose Monye guilty of the contract murder of Henning.
Henning, 26, was shot dead in Faerie Glen in November 2011, shortly after dropping off her child at a creche.
Gouws and Monye pleaded not guilty to five charges relating to an alleged conspiracy to commit the murder.
The State argued that Monye and Gouws conspired with former policeman Gerhardus "Doepie" du Plessis and Willem "Pike" Pieterse (alias Tattoo).
Du Plessis and Pieterse are serving 18-year prison terms after confessing to their roles in the murder.
In his testimony, Gouws admitted that Chanelle's husband asked him to watch her to see if she used drugs. The couple was divorcing and was fighting over custody of their child.
The case continues.
Source : Sapa /dm/aa/jje/cls
Date : 05 Dec 2013 11:13
APoc184
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Bingo!
TelkomUseless
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Surprised? No
But only a witness, will they be able to convict him? Or do they need proof?
But only a witness, will they be able to convict him? Or do they need proof?
APoc184
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Witness will probably tell them his version and they will check cellphone and other evidence to see if it matches up. Might be strong enough case for a conviction or not.
Of course the accused will be given the chance to prove it all lies or circumstantial evidence.
Going to get interesting soon.
My guess is that Nico will try to flee before he gets arrested.