Dimpie (JIGSAW)
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NE-Style pils ... Does it at least still taste like a pilsner ?
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dualmeister
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Heavy for a pils. Also only 4.8% but went straight to my head 
dualmeister
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Route 62 Brewing Co. Montagu
lkswan747
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If you want a nice refreshing "Cool Drink" try the Soweto Cherry. Man, can you get tipsy while being "Ohh so childishly delicious"
Dimpie (JIGSAW)
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^ I can't find that? Which store did you purchase from ?
Last I heard, Harambe was banned from Liquor City Claremont. Vol 4 might be there though as it has a less blasphemous label.
Not when I have Liquor City claremont nearby.
Some nice looking stuff on there tho, but the size of the packs is a bit much for me. Prefer buying a lot of different things than 8 or 12 of something I might not like. Your Vol. 4 Black Imperial IPA tho...that available in store?
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Regarding the hop IPA/APA/pale ale debate.
My 2c:
The bitterness of hops come from the boil. To get aroma from hops, one tends to add it late in the boil or dry hop. It's entirely possible to have a low-ish IBU pale ale style beer that has been hopped to death post-boil (one year at our company beer fest the dude who won- Irish red ale- also had an IPA there hopped with half a kilo of hops).
Some good reading on hops:
howtobrew.com
scottjanish.com
My 2c:
The bitterness of hops come from the boil. To get aroma from hops, one tends to add it late in the boil or dry hop. It's entirely possible to have a low-ish IBU pale ale style beer that has been hopped to death post-boil (one year at our company beer fest the dude who won- Irish red ale- also had an IPA there hopped with half a kilo of hops).
Some good reading on hops:
How are they used? - How to Brew
howtobrew.com
A Case for Short And Cool Dry Hopping - Scott Janish
scottjanish.com
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Dimpie (JIGSAW)
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^ A stout should actually not be enjoyed "ice cold" like other beers
Darker beers usually at 6-9 ºC
Darker beers usually at 6-9 ºC
I like all my beers cold, each to his own I guess.
Same. The best way to enjoy a beer is exactly how I want to.
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Completely agree, but I feel like everyone should at least experiment a bit. Stouts offer a lot more at slightly warmer temperatures. It "warms up", like it's supposed to taste, as warmer temperatures. Some people don't like it, and that's fine, but I feel everyone should at least give it a shot at some point. Some stouts are even supposed to be enjoyed warm (room temp), but I also can't stomach that.
Also, since stouts are often quite carbonated (part of the style), I like to get them ice cold, then pour, and then wait a few minutes after the initial sip or two. It settles in the glass, carbonation relaxes and it warms up just a tad. It's nice.
Also, this chat reminds me that I have a nice stout at home. Hazeldean and Frontier's Collab brew, called the Haymaker Round 2. Port barrel aged and finally bottle conditioned imperial stout, at 8% ABV. 660ml bottle. It's going to be a flavour bomb, right up my alley with red fruits and dark chocolate. That's how I like my stouts!