The Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat & Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Thread (Hellcat Lovers)

The Black Ghost is the Dodge Challenger’s penultimate goodbye

Second-to-last Challenger revives a Detroit street-racing legend

Now that the ‘new’ Challenger is now just one more step away from its last goodbye, it’s probably worth distilling what made it such a desirable thing in the first place. There’s any number of reasons, of course – affordable muscle, the warm glow of Made in Murica and so on. But in a nutshell, it’s because it was so much like the old one.

And the penultimate ‘Last Call’ Challenger rather doubles down on that score. It’s a callback to the original ‘Black Ghost’ of the Seventies, and includes graphics that hark back to the ‘gator skin’ pattern roof vinyl, as well as the vintage-correct white tail stripes and script Challenger logo.

And while these Proustian visual cues are all well and good, nostalgia by itself is a façade as empty as a Potemkin village. To truly work as a modern interpretation of the original, it needs to show the same spirit as the original.

So what was the original Black Ghost about? Well, it was a black-on-black (naturally), Hemi-powered Challenger, with an officially rated 425bhp that was a... generous understatement. Somewhere around 470bhp was probably closer to the mark, meaning an old, loping, 7.0-litre pushrod V8 from 1970 was capable of more than one horsepower per cubic centimetre – nothing to sniff at half a century ago.

 
Dodge Delays Final V8 Monster Due to Supply Challenges

Dodge has delayed its seventh and final “Last Call” special edition due to “product and supply challenges.”

Dodge has been bidding farewell to its V8 muscle cars in a long, drawn out way that has so far included six pretty cool, very shouty, limited-edition models. That fond farewell was due to conclude with a secret seventh “Last Call” model set to launch at this year’s SEMA show, but it’s been delayed.

Dodge’s seventh and final Last Call muscle car would follow in the footsteps of the Challenger-based Shakedown, the Charger-based Super Bee and the recently-announced Black Ghost, which was created in tribute to a 1970s street racer.

The next iteration in the series, which would also be based on either the Charger or Challenger, was all set to be revealed at this year’s Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show in Las Vegas, Nevada, November 1-4.

 
Dodge's Last Call Special-Edition Models Wear a Hefty Price-Tag, Starting at Over $60,000

Ordering is open for the last of the gas-powered Challenger and Chargers. And Dodge has a new tool to find your last gas-powered monster, easily.

Dodge has been sending its beloved Charger and Challenger muscle cars out with a bang, slowly revealing its Last Call Editions. Thursday, Dodge also released pricing for those special vehicles. And for those wondering how they’re going to find and get their hands on one, Dodge has also rolled out a new vehicle locator tool. Dodge owners and enthusiasts will be able to find the last examples of what they want, before it’s too late.

So far, Dodge has released six Last Call special-edition models for both the Charger and Challenger: Dodge Challenger Shakedown, Dodge Charger Super Bee, Dodge Challenger and Charger Scat Pack Swinger, Dodge Charger King Daytona, and Dodge Challenger Black Ghost. A seventh model is coming, But Dodge says it’ll be announced at a later date.

Well today, those special vehicles have special prices, with pricing for the regular Charger and Challenger range updated for 2023 as well.

The bad news is everything is expensive.

You can no longer get either of these muscle cars under $30,000. Charger SXT starts at $30,545 and Challenger SXT at $32,645; GT trims start in the mid $30s with GT AWD trims costing nearly $38,000; R/Ts are pretty much $40,000; R/T Scat Packs start in the mid $40s with widebody editions coming close to or cresting $50,000. That covers the “basic” trims. The $60,000 and up range is when you get into the special models. These prices all include the $1,595 destination charge:


 
Dodge Is Still Figuring out the Charger Daytona EV's Exhaust Note

I told you all it was a disappointment, and now I am vindicated.

Back in August, Stellantis revealed the (deep breath) Dodge Charger Daytona SRT Banshee Concept. The car carries an absurd number of names, but somehow that wasn’t the most maligned part of its reveal. No, that honor went to something else: the car’s sound.

I should know, of course. I was one of those early detractors, because to my ears, the car’s “Fratzonic” exhaust just sounded like missed opportunities. All mids and highs, no chest-shaking bass, and most importantly, nothing new or unique. It sounded like it couldn’t decide whether to replicate a Hemi or go full-on future, and decided to half-ass both.

It seems I’m not alone in disliking the Charger Daytona SRT Banshee Concept’s exhaust note. Dodge CEO Tim Kuniskis spoke with Motor Trend
earlier this week and brought the car’s sound up as something that the company is “still working on.” To hear him tell it, the Fratzonic tone we all heard at launch is neither the first nor the last sound to exit that electrified body: “We have changed the sound of that car 1,000 times, and we will continue to.”

The question then becomes, what will it sound like next? Kuniskis talked about the car’s “idle,” and how happy the company is with its V8-like tone. If that’s in a good place, then it seems Dodge is likely focusing on the CDSRTBC’s exhaust note as it revs out — smart thinking, given that its high-RPM tone brought much of the audial disdain.

 
There's Nothing Stopping Dodge From Stuffing a Hurricane Straight Six in the Next Charger, CEO Says

The brand will start battery-electric, but the nature of the modular STLA Large platform means internal combustion is never out of the question.

When Stellantis unveiled the 3-liter, twin-turbocharged Hurricane inline six earlier this year — the engine designed to replace the 5.7- and 6.4-liter V8s in Dodge, Ram, and Jeep’s arsenal — a lot of people understandably replied “these would work great in a Challenger!” And then Dodge decided to not do that. But the brand knows not everyone is on board with the whole “e-muscle” thing, and it’s for perhaps that reason that CEO Tim Kuniskis offered a glimmer of hope that the new straight-six will one day find a home in the Charger Daytona, or whatever Dodge’s forthcoming production muscle car is.

On Tuesday, both The Drive and Carscoops separately reported Kuniskis’ comments about the Hurricane engine from a media question-and-answer session last week. The upshot is that the STLA Large platform on which that future EV will be built can still support an internal-combustion powertrain, and so Kuniskis doesn’t necessarily have his hands tied if he wants to rip out the batteries and electric motors and stuff the Hurricane in at a later date. Courtesy The Drive:

“We said that our next generation cars are built on the STLA Large Car Platform. The STLA Large Car Platform is a multi-energy platform. It has the ability to run an ICE engine,” said Kuniskis. “I can take the floor pan out. I can take the battery out. I can put a drive-shaft tunnel in there. The platform is made to be able to do that. It’s modular,” he explained.

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Kuniskis demurred, though, noting that “I can put an ICE engine in it. It doesn’t mean we’re going to.” Dodge currently has no official plans to use the Hurricane in a muscle car application, and Kuniskis was very clear on that point. “We’re certainly not launching with anything like that. We’re launching full battery electric,” he added.

And that’s the rub — Dodge isn’t doing any of this yet, even if its chief executive wants you to know that it can. Kuniskis and company are hoping the Dodge faithful get used to the idea of EVs in time, so it maybe won’t have to. Credit to the 1969 Dodge Charger Guy, who pretty much scoped this out yesterday before these stories were ever published.

 
The Dodge Charger Daytona SRT Concept Might Have Turnkey Stage 1 and 2 Upgrades

The Charger EV that Dodge is teasing could feature three powertrains and OTA performance upgrades.

Dodge is digging its heels in over the upcoming Charger Daytona SRT Concept with three possible powertrains that increase the fully-electric coupe’s output in stages. Dodge seems fixated on the idea that tuning culture and hot-rodding will, in fact, survive the EV transition, so each of the Charger Daytona SRT’s powertrains will feature two performance upgrades that unlock by using a “crystal” key, which plugs into the EV’s dashboard.

The three possible Charger Daytona SRT configurations are divided into two 400-volt systems and one 800-volt SRT Banshee system: The 400-volt systems start with a 340 electric motor that makes 455 horsepower at base, then goes up to 495 HP after upgrading to “eStage 1,” and 535 HP at “eStage 2.”

The next powertrain will be an upgraded 440 electric motor that makes 590 HP at base, then jumps to 630 HP at “eStage 1,” and then 670 HP at “eStage 2.”

The outputs of the 800-volt system and its “Direct Connection” stage upgrades are unknown for now, since Dodge is being coy about the performance pinnacle of the world’s first “electric muscle car.” But don’t let the sudden jump from 400 to 800 volts fool you; it’s not like the SRT Banshee will automatically double the output of the 400-volt systems. The jump is a bit more complicated than that, with higher voltage allowing for lower current, which makes the car more efficient overall.

 
Dodge Charger Daytona SRT updated for SEMA 2022

It is SEMA week and the show is full of electric cars. Dodge wasn’t going to risk being forgotten and brought its all-electric Charger Daytona SRT - with more power and more options to get the crowd excited about the electric future of muscle cars.

Dressed in a deep and glossy Stryker Red paint job, Charger took to the center stage. Drag racing carbon fiber 18-inch wheels wrapped in drag radial tires with the signature “donut” side walls complement the mean looks. But the looks are just a part of the show - a very important one, but far from the whole thing.

The giveaway to the secret sauce hiding under the body of the electric Charger is the not-so discreet badge “Direct Connection Stage 2” - a testament to how seriously Dodge takes the electric transition. Direct Connection is a power upgrade program for electric Dodge vehicles, no different than Mopar, that will offer plenty of choices for the future customers.

There are three power levels available for Charger Daytona SRT - the base model comes with 455hp, which can be increased to 495hp with eSatge 1 upgrade or all the way to 535hp with eStage 2.

The middle-spec Charger comes with 590hp in its base form - this can be upgraded to 630hp with eStage1 or, if you feel adventures, eStage 2 will take it all the way up to 670hp. Both entry and mid-spec models come with 400V architecture.

If 670hp are not enough to quench your power thirst, then you’ll have to wait for the 800V Banshee - a triple-motor 1,000hp electric bat straight out of hell. Dodge is keeping quiet about the specifications, but is promising to unveil the details really soon. Even the Banshee will be available in three power outputs, how far will the eStage 2 take it?


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The Manual Dodge Challenger Hellcat Is Back for 2023

If you're going to send a car like the Hellcat to the farm upstate, this is one hell of a way to play it out.

There’s no getting around the fact that anything with a Hellcat badge on it is dumb. Of course, there are different kinds of dumb, and the Hellcats are the very best kind which is a combination of pointless in modern society and yet so totally filled with goofy joy that you have to love it. The problem with the Hellcat Challenger, in particular, is that if you wanted one with a manual transmission, you’re out of luck.

Only now, according to a report published on Wednesday by Car & Driver, that’s no longer the case. By that, I mean that Stellantis is bringing the six-speed manual transmission back to the Challenger for the 2023 model year after quietly killing it sometime in 2021. Dodge’s reason for killing the manual option was something nebulous to do with power calibrations, but whatever those issues were, they’re sorted now.

The Tremec six-speed is the standard transmission on R/T, R/T Scat Pack and SRT Hellcat models but isn’t available on any of the spicier infernal feline models like the Super Stock, the Jailbreak or the Red Eye. Those are all still only available with the eight-speed TorqueFlite automatic, which is fine because 717 horsepower is plenty to manage all on your own.

 
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