The Elections Thread - 7 May 2014

[LazyLion]

If this is the case - lets say ANC go with EFF to get them over the 50%. That would mean we're worse off than we are now, not so?

Yes, because the ANC would have to adopt some of the policies of the EFF in order to get them to ally with them.
And the EFF policies are bad for this country.

 

[Priapus]

What if no other party want to join to ANC ? Is there something to say they have to?

 

[Wyzak]

Yes, because the ANC would have to adopt some of the policies of the EFF in order to get them to ally with them.
And the EFF policies are bad for this country.

And the ANC ones aren't?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

What if no other party want to join to ANC ? Is there something to say they have to?

No. They don't really 'join' the ANC. Parliament will have to constitute a new government. Coalitions just make that a lot easier for the parties involved.

 

[Kornhub]

Read on facebook anc supporters stoned a DA bus

 

[dualmeister]

I wish I could burn all the ANC posters around Cape Town.

But, that would be wrong

 

[LazyLion]

And the ANC ones aren't?

No, not as bad.

e.g. ANC take back the farm land and compensate the farmer. EFF take back the farm land with no compensation.

 

[Priapus]

So what's the best that we could hope for? ANC + anyone besides EFF?

 

[Wyzak]

No, not as bad.

e.g. ANC take back the farm land and compensate the farmer. EFF take back the farm land with no compensation.

Bad example, the ANC are busy passing a new law and have admitted that the 'willing buyer willing seller' principal isn't working. The ANC will start taking land without any compensation just after the election.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Bad example, the ANC are busy passing a new law and have admitted that the 'willing buyer willing seller' principal isn't working. The ANC will start taking land without any compensation just after the election.

Not without a constitutional amendment.

http://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/legprocess.htm

A Constitution Amendment Bill which aims to affect changes to the basic values of the Constitution requires a supporting vote of at least 75% of the members of the National Assembly and of at least six provinces in the NCOP in order to be passed. Proposed changes to the Bill of Rights require a supporting vote of at least two-thirds of the members of the Assembly and of at least six provinces in the NCOP in order to be passed.

 

[Sherbang]

Bad example, the ANC are busy passing a new law and have admitted that the 'willing buyer willing seller' principal isn't working. The ANC will start taking land without any compensation just after the election.

Don't know where you got that from...
The ANC has admitted that the 'willing buyer willing seller' principal isn't working but they have not said the solution is taking land without any compensation.
They will continue to compensate with market related prices - the only difference is that if the seller is not willing to sell, the land claim courts can order that the sale goes through irrespective. There will still be compensation though.

 

[Wyzak]

Not without a constitutional amendment.

http://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/legprocess.htm

And that would stop EFF as well... My point is that the ANC of 2014 is probably not much worse than EFF.

 

[Sherbang]

And that would stop EFF as well... My point is that the ANC of 2014 is probably not much worse than EFF.

Just totally different...

 

[Creag]

2014 elections - the stats you should know

As the nation gets ready to go to the polls on Wednesday, below is a glimse of a few interesting stats:

25 million
The number of South Africans registered to vote in the 2014 National and Provincial elections.

58 million
The number of ballot papers to be distributed to the IEC’s nine provincial warehouses.

29
The number of political parties on the ballot paper for the 2014 National and Provincial elections.

26 000
The number of voters who successfully applied to cast their ballots at 116 SA missions around the world.

8 651
The number of candidates standing for election on the regional, national and provincial lists of 45 participating political parties.

22 363
The number of voting stations across the country.

450
The number of computers at the IEC Results Operations Centre in Pretoria.

31
The number of media houses represented, stationed at the IEC Results Operations Centre in Pretoria.

20 000
The number of law enforcement officers to be deployed across the country to ensure security during voting.

200
The number of people who will be able to simultaneously connect to the wireless network at the IEC Results Centre in Pretoria.

SAnews.gov.za

http://www.sanews.gov.za/features/2014-elections-stats-you-should-know

 

[Priapus]

Out of 58 million how many are eligible to vote?

 

[Wall]

Palesa Morudu ‏@palesamorudu 1m
@IECSouthAfrica apparently found at home of ANC party agent.

pic.twitter.com/OyoYIvI79Y

 

[D.B.Cooper]

Palesa Morudu ‏@palesamorudu 1m
@IECSouthAfrica apparently found at home of ANC party agent.

pic.twitter.com/OyoYIvI79Y

I want to say I'm surprised, but that would be lying.

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

Power987 is following the debacle: https://twitter.com/POWER987News

 

[cr@zydude]

As the nation gets ready to go to the polls on Wednesday, below is a glimse of a few interesting stats:

25 million
The number of South Africans registered to vote in the 2014 National and Provincial elections.

58 million
The number of ballot papers to be distributed to the IEC’s nine provincial warehouses.


http://www.sanews.gov.za/features/2014-elections-stats-you-should-know

That can't be right. Other than special cases, people get 2 papers, 1 provincial and 1 national. I would assume that they print extras as well.

 

[MickeyD]

Palesa Morudu ‏@palesamorudu 1m
@IECSouthAfrica apparently found at home of ANC party agent.

pic.twitter.com/OyoYIvI79Y