The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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Here's how it will go down. They will let it ride for a few months and let unregistered users run up bills. Then they will issue press releases about how it is a criminal offence not to pay and they are starting to issue summonses for 250 000 people. They will even send a few thousand to scare everyone - enough that everyone knows somebody who knows somebody who got summonsed. Just as everyone is panicking, Nazi Ally will make a big announcement that in a show of benevolence they're giving everyone 30 day amnesty period - no prosecutions as long as you register AND get an E-Tag. This is textbook mass manipulation - create anxiety, provide the relief. At this point the queues at the SANRAL booths will be similar to the first license card deadline.
 
Nope, SANRAL Act explicitly exempts from the NCA.

I see you are right :

Section 60 of The South African National Roads Agency Limited and National
Roads Act, 1998, is hereby amended—
(a) by the substitution for the heading of the following heading:
‘‘Amendment, exclusion and repeal of laws’’; and
(b) by the addition of the following subsection:
‘‘(3) Despite the provisions of the National Credit Act, 2005 (Act No. 34
of 2005), the provisions of that Act are not applicable to the levying and
collecting of toll in terms of this Act.’’.

That clearly can't even vaguely be right. The NCA is meant to protect the consumer... how can a private entities interests trump those of protecting the consumer. I honestly see that section of the amendment being struck out when it actually gets challenged in court.
 
Does anyone have a link for the cosatu statement along the lines of slowing down etoll post at the post office?
 
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"We [want] our workers to be really extremely slow when they see the e-tolls mail," Aubrey Tshabalala, the union's Gauteng secretary, said.

And what if SANRAL decides not to put their name or an e-toll logo on the envelopes?? ;)
 
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2013/12/05/snail-mail-to-block-e-tolls

E-tolling faces a new stumbling block in its first week of operation - Post Office workers have vowed to delay the delivery of summonses to motorists and traffic police have started an unofficial go-slow.


Yesterday, the Cosatu-affiliated Communications Workers' Union urged its workers, who have been on a go-slow, to strengthen their contribution to Cosatu's campaign against e-tolls by delaying the delivery to defaulting motorists of SA National Roads Agency mail.

"We [want] our workers to be really extremely slow when they see the e-tolls mail," Aubrey Tshabalala, the union's Gauteng secretary, said.

"Our members will be very slow. The snail will be faster than us when we see e-tolls mail."

He said the go-slow would become a stayaway on December 24 and January 2.

If the go-slow persists at the Post Office, the delay in the delivery of the seven-day demands to motorists without e-tags would jeopardise Sanral's case against defaulters.

Tshabalala said main Post Office centres such as those at Witspos, Germiston, OR Tambo International airport and Krugersdorp would be in complete lockdown.

Traffic officers in Ekurhuleni and Johannesburg, who complain that they are being overwhelmed by the diversion of traffic onto secondary routes by e-tolling, have resorted to dragging their feet.

The officers are members of the SA Municipal Workers' Union, an affiliate of Cosatu.

Samwu's Gauteng legal officer, Jack Mokalapa, confirmed officers were on an unofficial go-slow.

"We cannot be held responsible for the go-slow. It's not the official position of the union but we have assured our members that we will fight the e-tolls through Cosatu," he said.

Mokalapa said the union had received complaints from officers about the "madness" on alternative roads.

"It is an added burden, which is unnecessary. As a Cosatu affiliate, we will continue to exert pressure on the government to scrap the e-tolls. They are affecting operations and officers cannot respond to other emergency cases," he said.

Both the Ekurhuleni and the Johannesburg metro police departments claimed they were not aware of the go-slow.

"As far as I know, all our officers are on their feet doing their work," said Johannesburg metro police spokesman Edna Mamonyane.

Her counterpart in Ekurhuleni, Wilfred Kgasago, said: "There's no evidence that there is a go-slow."

When asked whether the go-slow would affect the delivery of its notices, Sanral spokesman Vusi Mona said: "Not at this moment."

He also said that he had no knowledge of go-slow protests by Post Office workers and metro police
 
Still not good enough, they should give the ANC an ultimatum, scrap e-tolls or we withdraw from triapartheid (sic) alliance

exactly... Easy score Cosatu... just tell people not to vote anc... and BAMM! Problem sorted.
 
Traffic officers in Ekurhuleni and Johannesburg, who complain that they are being overwhelmed by the diversion of traffic onto secondary routes by e-tolling, have resorted to dragging their feet.

The officers are members of the SA Municipal Workers' Union, an affiliate of Cosatu.

Samwu's Gauteng legal officer, Jack Mokalapa, confirmed officers were on an unofficial go-slow.

"We cannot be held responsible for the go-slow. It's not the official position of the union but we have assured our members that we will fight the e-tolls through Cosatu," he said.

From the TimesLive article ...
 
Unions intensify fight against tolls

Cosatu-affiliated unions in the Post Office and Gauteng metro police have vowed to directly and indirectly help motorists against e-tolling.

Post Office workers who are members of the Communication Workers' Union (CWU) are already on a go-slow. However, they have been urged to work even more slowly when dealing with summonses from the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral).

"They must work extremely slow[ly] when dealing with those Sanral letters. If they have to sort out 100 a day, they should make it one a day," CWU Gauteng secretary Aubrey Tshabalala said.

Workers should work "slower than a snail" so that those people opposing the system did not receive the summons.

"We want the system to completely collapse. We are very disappointed that after Cosatu marches and engagements the system [still] continued."

Tshabalala said the campaign against the system would be intensified in January.

CWU workers in the Post Office are on a go-slow, demanding a relocation allowance, 10 percent salary increase, housing subsidy, medical aid post retirement benefits, and the removal of capping of medical aid.

Traffic officers in Ekurhuleni and Johannesburg who are members of the SA Municipal Workers' Union (Samwu) were also on an unofficial go-slow.

The union distanced itself from the unofficial go slow but confirmed that officers had been complaining they were forced to desert their official duties due to the massive traffic on alternatives routes to the e-tolled highways.

Samwu Gauteng legal officer Jack Mokalapa said the union had received complaints from members that it had been an "absolute disaster" on those roads in the morning as motorists avoided tolled highways.

"They are creating extra work for our officers and they can no longer attend to other emergencies. It's an operational disaster and there is not enough manpower."

Mokalapa said Samwu, through the Congress of SA Trade Unions, would continue attempts to force government to scrap the system.

"We are going to intensify our efforts to put pressure on government so that the system is not even implemented in other provinces."


Source : Sapa /lk/aa/jk/jje
Date : 05 Dec 2013 09:44
 
This won't make much difference - you have 59 days from invoice date to pay before they prosecute, and the SANRAL Act places the onus on the user to establish what they owe (i.e. they don't actually have to send invoices, if they don't feel like it).

In clear contravention of the CPA.
 
I wonder if the reason for not doing this is due to them [Cosatu[ stand to loose more than the ANC would?

Could be they need each other .. but Cosatu have the people (voters)... so they might have an edge..
 
I have to ask myself. HTF does a system like this stand up when there are clearly errors everywhere in the system??
 
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