The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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garp said:
From what I can see the "planned lane additions" is the only phase they've completed so far and this took how many years and how much cash? I can't see them actually managing to build 158km of new routes any time soon.
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And we've still got another 223km of new etoll roads before we even hit that stage...
 
I see there is an article on News24 where Vusi says that people should not wait for invoices but rather just pay as soon as they can otherwise they will not get their discounts.

So all you Gautengers, do not wait, just hand over whatever money you have, I'm sure Sanral will not cheat you :D
 
MKFrost said:
I see there is an article on News24 where Vusi says that people should not wait for invoices but rather just pay as soon as they can otherwise they will not get their discounts.

So all you Gautengers, do not wait, just hand over whatever money you have, I'm sure Sanral will not cheat you :D
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e-trolling?

I'm getting 100% discount! and won't settle for less
 
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Anyone noticed the frequency change of communication from Vusi and SANRAL. It use to be all guns blazing, jail, criminal record, bad credit record. Now. It is quiet. They haven't even commented on OUTA.
 
Just for interest sake, will each phase have it's own cap or will the cap be for all phases together? And is there any clarity on the cap regulation?
 
phoneJunky said:
Just for interest sake, will each phase have it's own cap or will the cap be for all phases together? And is there any clarity on the cap regulation?
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Oh guaranteed by the time phase 2 goes live, caps will be history.
 
creeper said:
Anyone noticed the frequency change of communication from Vusi and SANRAL. It use to be all guns blazing, jail, criminal record, bad credit record. Now. It is quiet. They haven't even commented on OUTA.
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After OUTA's stats, they did release a statement about there being 15,000 new e-tag registrations per week with 1 million registered. I don't think those figures add up but I haven't looked at it properly yet...
 
DJ... said:
After OUTA's stats, they did release a statement about there being 15,000 new e-tag registrations per week with 1 million registered. I don't think those figures add up but I haven't looked at it properly yet...
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35000-45000 / week. Assuming most people register via the booths, 12 hour work day. 7 days a week, it means they are registering approx 9 a minute. Seems high

Also. At this pace, all Gautengers will be registered in 35-40 weeks

My suspicion is that they took January's best week and multiplied it with an arbitrary number.
 
creeper said:
35000-45000 / week. Assuming most people register via the booths, 12 hour work day. 7 days a week, it means they are registering approx 9 a minute. Seems high

Also. At this pace, all Gautengers will be registered in 35-40 weeks

My suspicion is that they took January's best week and multiplied it with an arbitrary number.
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My suspicion is that they quite literally just sucked it out of their arses...
 
DJ... said:
My suspicion is that they quite literally just sucked it out of their arses...
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Yep I stopped reading after the first obvious lie and that was the one where they said that they only people giving back e-tags are those moving out of the province. I know several people who have given there's back after reading the T&Cs.
 
http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/53213/sanral-plays-down-e-toll-spread-worry/

South African National Roads Agency Ltd’s (Sanral) has played down concerns raised by the Democtric Alliance that the user-pays toll system currently implemented in Gauteng, could spread to other provinces.

It follows the handing over of more than 1,600km of Limpopo provincial roads to Sanral.

According to DA shadow minister of transport, Ian Ollis, the transfer of the roads is “problematic”, considering that Sanral is cash-strapped – while National Treasury has maintained that it would not allocate any further funding to the company.

“Since they (sanral) will have no access to the provincial road grants, in order to repair and maintain the additional road network assigned to it, Sanral would have to raise its own funding.”

“This raises genuine concerns that an already cash-strapped Sanral is going to be forced to pass the burden onto South Africans,” Ollis said.

General concern is that Sanral would turn to a controversial user-pays tolling mechanism similar to the Gauteng e-tolling system to raise funds to maintain roads.

Ollis noted that the DA has been fighting e-tolling in Gauteng and will do so anywhere else in the country.

Responding to queries regarding the possible spread of e-tolling across South Africa, Sanral spokesperson Vusi Mona said that the transfer of roads to Sanral does not mean such roads will be tolled.

He also argued that there is ongoing confusion around e-tolling as a system.

There is a distinction between e-tolling as it is understood as a system implemented in Gauteng (vis-a-vis the gantry system operated by ETC), and as an already-operating system used to collect toll fees across the country at conventional toll gates.

Mona explained that e-tolling is a method of payment for one’s toll fees and not a funding mechanism.

“It is simply an electronic payment method for tolls – as opposed to paying manually at a toll gate,” he said.

Mona noted that Sanral and its concessionaires are in the process of installing the electronic toll collection equipment needed at conventional toll plazas across the country.

Sanral said that the transfer of roads to Sanral does not mean such roads will be tolled.

“In the past year 2,000 km from the Eastern Cape and about 1,300 km from North West were transferred to Sanral without any imposition of tolls on those roads.”

“The funding of any new roads transferred to Sanral is a matter within the purview of National Treasury,” Mona said.

Mona added that the e-tolling system in Gauteng, while not without its challenges, was “working well”.

He said that exact financials on the system – including how much the system had managed to collect from road users – would be released anually, when they’ve been audited.

“However, we can state that we are satisfied with levels of compliance and our earnings are marginally above expectation.”

“The e-toll system is working well,” Mona said.

“The challenges currently experienced are related to the misunderstanding of the billing system by road users and the complexity of enquiries when these are made through the Customer Services points.”

“The Operator, ETC are currently putting mitigating processes in place to address the Customer Service related challenges,” Mona said.

The spokesman reiterated that current e-tag sales were sitting at “more than a million”, with no exact figure provided.
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E-tolling coming soon to a cash-strapped province near you.
 
Have no problem with them e-tolling current manned toll plazas, would be a great boon over having congested toll plazas during holiday periods. Those toll roads were built new and then tolled, and have viable alternatives, not like this GFIP abomination.
 
supersunbird said:
Have no problem with them e-tolling current manned toll plazas, would be a great boon over having congested toll plazas during holiday periods. Those toll roads were built new and then tolled, and have viable alternatives, not like this GFIP abomination.
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Except for the gross inefficiency, incompetence, inaccuracy and expense of the whole system...
 
Still, you can't compare intra-city tolling with inter-city tolling.
 
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