Mila
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TRANSPORT MINISTER PETERS CONFIRMS OUTA’S e-TAG COUNT
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Nice, do you have a source?
Mila
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Just Outa at the moment.
Where? Can you provide a link to the article on their site or from their twitter account etc?
Found it: http://www.outa.co.za/site/transport-minister-peters-confirms-outas-e-tag-count/
You already know the answer to that.
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/under-500-000-private-cars-e-tagged-1.1657065
Looks good for the DA's case then.
Looks good for the DA's case then.
What is 'consequences', tried to look it up in the ministerial handbook but could not find it. Same with 'accountability'......
JPSA MEDIA STATEMENT – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
TO: ALL NEWS & TRANSPORT EDITORS
DATE: 2014/03/06
SUBJECT: REGISTERED E-TOLLS USERS NOT WHAT IS BEING ADVERTISED BY SANRAL
JOHANNESBURG – Justice Project South Africa was somewhat astonished to hear the truth being set forth in Parliament by Minister Dipuo Peters on Wednesday 5 March 2014, wherein her answers to how many registrations for SANRAL’s e-tolls have taken place make a complete mockery of both, SANRAL’s advertising and the assertions of Mr Nazir Alli.
In her answer to the question asked by DA MP Ian Ollis as to how many registrations had taken place to 1 February 2014 she stated that the number was 912,048 registrations as at 31 January 2014 – of which 49,987 were for local, provincial and national government vehicles. It must also be borne in mind that a significant proportion of these registrations must apply to vehicles exempted from paying e-tolls.
SANRAL has been thanking the “more than 1.2 million registered users” of the GFIP for more than a week now – at the very least – in their radio adverts. Additionally, Mr Nazir Alli – CEO of SANRAL did the same on 28 February 2014 on the John Robbie’s show on Talk Radio 702.
“It is very difficult, if not impossible to believe that more than 287,952 new registrations would have taken place in the 28 days in February, especially in light of the fact that SANRAL’s repeated claims that around 35,000 registrations take place a week,” said Howard Dembovsky, chairperson of JPSA. “A figure of more than 10,000 registrations per day, every single day in the month of February, is simply too difficult to swallow, no matter how SANRAL chooses to spin it,” he continued.
Furthermore, the statement by Minister Peters that between 23% and 28% of the daily users of Gauteng’s e-roads have e-tags indicates that a stunning 72% don’t, which is most certainly not the impression that SANRAL is portraying.
According to SANRAL’s own “research”, around 2.5 million vehicles use the GFIP daily. This means that 1.8 million of them don’t have e-tags. SANRAL has not hesitated to label research conducted by OUTA as “unscientific”, but now it emerges that in fact, OUTA’s research was anything but inaccurate.
If SANRAL is indeed getting paid “more than R300 million a month” on e-tolls, as was claimed by Nazir Alli on Friday 28 February 2014, from up to 28% of their registered users and some of the unregistered users who may have paid, then the assertions by Mr Patrick Craven of COSATU that the e-toll tariffs are way too high hold a great deal of water.
The so-called “advantages” of e-tolling question raised by Ms Ruth Bhengu wherein the Minister referred to the delays caused by lack of maintenance to the freeways prior to the completion of the GFIP was also laughable.
“Surely there is no roads authority, apart from SANRAL and the Department of Transport, anywhere in the world that would have the audacity to even think that a roads network installed in the 1970’s, more than 40 years prior would cater for the natural, dramatically increased vehicle population?” asked Dembovsky.
“If anything, all this answer has done is to highlight how the fuel levy and other taxes have ‘evaporated’ into thin air, instead of being used to maintain, and indeed, upgrade our roads infrastructure. It is certainly no justification for e-tolling,” he continued.
“The time for SANRAL to stop overtly lying to the public has long since passed, as has the time for them to face reality and understand that no matter how many times a lie is repeated, it remains a lie. The people of Gauteng and South Africa do not need ‘to raise their IQ’. They are not stupid – no matter what Vusi Mona, Nazir Alli and SANRAL wish to call them or suggest they do.”
614 words
Reference: Parliamentary Plenary Session of 5 March 2014 on YouTube starting at 01:09:34: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNzsSC0lac
Jump to link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YnNzsSC0lac#t=4174
Best Regards,
Howard Dembovsky
National Chairman - Justice Project South Africa (NPC)
Association Not For Gain | Incorporated as a non-profit company under the Companies Act, 2008 | Registration Number 2010/019972/08
TO: ALL NEWS & TRANSPORT EDITORS
DATE: 2014/03/06
SUBJECT: REGISTERED E-TOLLS USERS NOT WHAT IS BEING ADVERTISED BY SANRAL
JOHANNESBURG – Justice Project South Africa was somewhat astonished to hear the truth being set forth in Parliament by Minister Dipuo Peters on Wednesday 5 March 2014, wherein her answers to how many registrations for SANRAL’s e-tolls have taken place make a complete mockery of both, SANRAL’s advertising and the assertions of Mr Nazir Alli.
In her answer to the question asked by DA MP Ian Ollis as to how many registrations had taken place to 1 February 2014 she stated that the number was 912,048 registrations as at 31 January 2014 – of which 49,987 were for local, provincial and national government vehicles. It must also be borne in mind that a significant proportion of these registrations must apply to vehicles exempted from paying e-tolls.
SANRAL has been thanking the “more than 1.2 million registered users” of the GFIP for more than a week now – at the very least – in their radio adverts. Additionally, Mr Nazir Alli – CEO of SANRAL did the same on 28 February 2014 on the John Robbie’s show on Talk Radio 702.
“It is very difficult, if not impossible to believe that more than 287,952 new registrations would have taken place in the 28 days in February, especially in light of the fact that SANRAL’s repeated claims that around 35,000 registrations take place a week,” said Howard Dembovsky, chairperson of JPSA. “A figure of more than 10,000 registrations per day, every single day in the month of February, is simply too difficult to swallow, no matter how SANRAL chooses to spin it,” he continued.
Furthermore, the statement by Minister Peters that between 23% and 28% of the daily users of Gauteng’s e-roads have e-tags indicates that a stunning 72% don’t, which is most certainly not the impression that SANRAL is portraying.
According to SANRAL’s own “research”, around 2.5 million vehicles use the GFIP daily. This means that 1.8 million of them don’t have e-tags. SANRAL has not hesitated to label research conducted by OUTA as “unscientific”, but now it emerges that in fact, OUTA’s research was anything but inaccurate.
If SANRAL is indeed getting paid “more than R300 million a month” on e-tolls, as was claimed by Nazir Alli on Friday 28 February 2014, from up to 28% of their registered users and some of the unregistered users who may have paid, then the assertions by Mr Patrick Craven of COSATU that the e-toll tariffs are way too high hold a great deal of water.
The so-called “advantages” of e-tolling question raised by Ms Ruth Bhengu wherein the Minister referred to the delays caused by lack of maintenance to the freeways prior to the completion of the GFIP was also laughable.
“Surely there is no roads authority, apart from SANRAL and the Department of Transport, anywhere in the world that would have the audacity to even think that a roads network installed in the 1970’s, more than 40 years prior would cater for the natural, dramatically increased vehicle population?” asked Dembovsky.
“If anything, all this answer has done is to highlight how the fuel levy and other taxes have ‘evaporated’ into thin air, instead of being used to maintain, and indeed, upgrade our roads infrastructure. It is certainly no justification for e-tolling,” he continued.
“The time for SANRAL to stop overtly lying to the public has long since passed, as has the time for them to face reality and understand that no matter how many times a lie is repeated, it remains a lie. The people of Gauteng and South Africa do not need ‘to raise their IQ’. They are not stupid – no matter what Vusi Mona, Nazir Alli and SANRAL wish to call them or suggest they do.”
614 words
Reference: Parliamentary Plenary Session of 5 March 2014 on YouTube starting at 01:09:34: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNzsSC0lac
Jump to link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YnNzsSC0lac#t=4174
Best Regards,
Howard Dembovsky
National Chairman - Justice Project South Africa (NPC)
Association Not For Gain | Incorporated as a non-profit company under the Companies Act, 2008 | Registration Number 2010/019972/08
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Jola
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ANC does not understand those concepts.
Mila
Honorary Master
A nice golden handshake and a different place at the tax looting table.
OMB
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let's hear what drivel Vusi Moaner is going to spin now
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Just so that you know I am reasonably sure e-toll roadblocks are coming.
Unfortunately my phone locked up so couldn't get a pic, but today on the highway I saw a vehicle with trailer, pretty much the same setup as the JMPD ones used for making people pay outstanding fines in roadblocks. Inside the vehicle was one of those white cameras they use to do E-Natis lookups to see how many outstanding fines you have. On the back of the trailer, in small print, they had a METRO POLICE logo aswell. So I think it is safe to conclude that both groups will do each other's harassment too.
Unfortunately my phone locked up so couldn't get a pic, but today on the highway I saw a vehicle with trailer, pretty much the same setup as the JMPD ones used for making people pay outstanding fines in roadblocks. Inside the vehicle was one of those white cameras they use to do E-Natis lookups to see how many outstanding fines you have. On the back of the trailer, in small print, they had a METRO POLICE logo aswell. So I think it is safe to conclude that both groups will do each other's harassment too.
Can only start when Eskom let me use my PC again...
yah..... that's another of the gifts the ANC has bestowed on us..... with just as much corruption..... <sigh>
that should piss the tagged folk off nicely!
I wish they would stop me, as they would have to prove every gantry I've triggered with photo evidence and only then I'll tell them to take me to court, as I refuse to pay
Bring it!
Running a few numbers here and they're starting to make more sense. They do nothing to vindicate Sanral though. In fact they highlight some pretty spectacular lies and confirm others that I've already addressed in previous videos...
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