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The Gauteng E-tolling Thread
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catch 101, it's all a scam to get you to sign agreement.
Then refuse to pay and write everything that happened down and have it affidavited. Wait for your day in court and hand your affidavit to the magistrate.
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/minister-makes-e-toll-concessions-1.1720288#.U8YjpvmSx8E
Still worse than fuel levy so simply not good enough.
Aren't all of those registered users reprieves already active? It's like they don't even know the system themselves.
Still worse than fuel levy so simply not good enough.
Aren't all of those registered users reprieves already active? It's like they don't even know the system themselves.
Don't forget the private security force I have to hire because the Police is inept and corrupt.
the cheaper they make the rates, the less will go towards roads, as the collection costs are a given
I will not pay a single cent, as long as they use e-tolling
Jola
Honorary Master
Sounds like BS.
I know someone who pays cash, they have never been asked to register.
They just give the registration number and pay.
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Hmm, okay. I dunno. Have also heard of other people who were told you can't pay without registering. Maybe clueless SANRAL employees?
It's not our responsibility to train them.
Jola
Honorary Master
Tell them to FO and insist on paying !
Jola
Honorary Master
Personally I have stayed off the e-toll roads, except for the portions that do not have gantries, but it is starting to be a pain to drive back from the airport through Edenvale, and to drive to Pretoria on the Old Johannesburg Road.
Going to Durban is also a pain, have to go past Carnival City and join the N3 at Heidelberg.
Going to Durban is also a pain, have to go past Carnival City and join the N3 at Heidelberg.
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Who said it is?
Not me, I'm not paying a dime.
But I think the person wanted to have it on record that he did try to pay.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
E-TOLL PANEL HOLDS FIRST MEETING
The panel that will examine the effect e-tolling has had in Gauteng will meet for the first time on Thursday, the provincial government said.
Premier David Makhura announced the names of 10 of the 15 members of the panel last Thursday.
"If we were not serious we wouldn't announce that this matter required our attention... We wouldn't come this far," Makhura said at the time.
"When we meet with the panel... we will discuss that it is a matter of public interest."
The meeting will start with a photo opportunity for the media and the panel will then get down to the business of discussing the controversial system which started operating across Gauteng on December 3, following several court challenges and widespread public opposition.
The panel members are: chairman Muxe Nkondo, Patricia Hanekom, John Ngcebetsha, Vuyo Mahlathi, Luci Abrahams, Fiona Tregenna, Anna Mokgokong, John Sampson, Lauretta Teffo, and Chris Malikane.
Five more members were expected to be announced later, Makhura said.
The panel was tasked with inviting proposals and submissions from Gauteng residents on proposed solutions to e-tolling. It would submit its finding and recommendations to the provincial government.
"The panel is expected to present monthly reports, and final report and recommendations to the Gauteng provincial government by 30 November 2014."
On Tuesday Transport Minister Dipuo Peters announced a "reprieve" for the users of Gauteng's toll roads.
She said users would "have an extended payment period of 51 days, from the day they pass through the gantry, as opposed to the [current] seven days".
They would also receive the time-of-day discount.
On September 25, President Jacob Zuma signed into law the Transport Laws and Related Matters Amendment Bill, giving the go-ahead for e-tolling in Gauteng.
Source : Sapa /aa/jje
Date : 17 Jul 2014 07:59
The panel that will examine the effect e-tolling has had in Gauteng will meet for the first time on Thursday, the provincial government said.
Premier David Makhura announced the names of 10 of the 15 members of the panel last Thursday.
"If we were not serious we wouldn't announce that this matter required our attention... We wouldn't come this far," Makhura said at the time.
"When we meet with the panel... we will discuss that it is a matter of public interest."
The meeting will start with a photo opportunity for the media and the panel will then get down to the business of discussing the controversial system which started operating across Gauteng on December 3, following several court challenges and widespread public opposition.
The panel members are: chairman Muxe Nkondo, Patricia Hanekom, John Ngcebetsha, Vuyo Mahlathi, Luci Abrahams, Fiona Tregenna, Anna Mokgokong, John Sampson, Lauretta Teffo, and Chris Malikane.
Five more members were expected to be announced later, Makhura said.
The panel was tasked with inviting proposals and submissions from Gauteng residents on proposed solutions to e-tolling. It would submit its finding and recommendations to the provincial government.
"The panel is expected to present monthly reports, and final report and recommendations to the Gauteng provincial government by 30 November 2014."
On Tuesday Transport Minister Dipuo Peters announced a "reprieve" for the users of Gauteng's toll roads.
She said users would "have an extended payment period of 51 days, from the day they pass through the gantry, as opposed to the [current] seven days".
They would also receive the time-of-day discount.
On September 25, President Jacob Zuma signed into law the Transport Laws and Related Matters Amendment Bill, giving the go-ahead for e-tolling in Gauteng.
Source : Sapa /aa/jje
Date : 17 Jul 2014 07:59
Chris14
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Please sign this petition https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/The_South_African_Government_Audit_the_Fuel_Levy
Sinbad
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Totally pointless. The fuel levy goes into the general fiscus.
fully agree - silly new fashion, like spam, to have these stupid petitions that nobody in power even glances at
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
SANRAL TO COMPLY WITH PETERS' CALL
The SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) will heed Transport Minister Dipuo Peters' call for the prosecution of non-paying e-toll users to be halted for now.
Sanral spokesman Vusi Mona said on Monday that the company acted according to its shareholder's directive.
"The minister represents the shareholder -- the government. Therefore, the agency acts in line with what the minister has said in this regard."
On Friday, Peters' spokesman Tiyani Rikhotso said she had spoken with Sanral about the holding back of the prosecution processes.
"She believes there are still a number of outstanding issues that need to be resolved, particularly those that affect the users of the roads, including inaccurate billing."
Rikhotso said the department believed the issues needed to be looked at correctly, so people were not punished, and ensure the country had the infrastructure to grow the economy.
On Tuesday, the National Prosecuting Authority said it had appointed two prosecutors to work with Sanral to deal with non-payment of e-tolls.
"We have assigned two prosecutors to work with Sanral with the view to establish whether the activities by some motorists constitute an offence in terms of the Sanral Act," NPA spokesman Nathi Mncube said at the time.
"Section 27(5)(a) makes it an offence to refuse or fail to pay the amount of toll that is due and is punishable on conviction with imprisonment or a fine."
Rikhotso said it was important to have as many people complying with the system as possible.
"We need to have every one on board and ensure we do not rush into a situation where we seek to wield the stick, while there are still a number of things we believe we can do to make the situation better and ensure more people comply."
He said the department's aim was to lessen the burden on the consumer.
On Tuesday, Peters announced a "reprieve" for the users of Gauteng's e-tolled roads.
Opening debate in Parliament on her department's budget, she told MPs this was being done "to make it easier for people to comply" with e-tolls.
Peters said users would have 51 days from the day they passed through the gantry, as opposed to the current seven days, to pay their bills. They would also get a time-of-day discount.
Source : Sapa /mr/ks
Date : 21 Jul 2014 19:40
The SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) will heed Transport Minister Dipuo Peters' call for the prosecution of non-paying e-toll users to be halted for now.
Sanral spokesman Vusi Mona said on Monday that the company acted according to its shareholder's directive.
"The minister represents the shareholder -- the government. Therefore, the agency acts in line with what the minister has said in this regard."
On Friday, Peters' spokesman Tiyani Rikhotso said she had spoken with Sanral about the holding back of the prosecution processes.
"She believes there are still a number of outstanding issues that need to be resolved, particularly those that affect the users of the roads, including inaccurate billing."
Rikhotso said the department believed the issues needed to be looked at correctly, so people were not punished, and ensure the country had the infrastructure to grow the economy.
On Tuesday, the National Prosecuting Authority said it had appointed two prosecutors to work with Sanral to deal with non-payment of e-tolls.
"We have assigned two prosecutors to work with Sanral with the view to establish whether the activities by some motorists constitute an offence in terms of the Sanral Act," NPA spokesman Nathi Mncube said at the time.
"Section 27(5)(a) makes it an offence to refuse or fail to pay the amount of toll that is due and is punishable on conviction with imprisonment or a fine."
Rikhotso said it was important to have as many people complying with the system as possible.
"We need to have every one on board and ensure we do not rush into a situation where we seek to wield the stick, while there are still a number of things we believe we can do to make the situation better and ensure more people comply."
He said the department's aim was to lessen the burden on the consumer.
On Tuesday, Peters announced a "reprieve" for the users of Gauteng's e-tolled roads.
Opening debate in Parliament on her department's budget, she told MPs this was being done "to make it easier for people to comply" with e-tolls.
Peters said users would have 51 days from the day they passed through the gantry, as opposed to the current seven days, to pay their bills. They would also get a time-of-day discount.
Source : Sapa /mr/ks
Date : 21 Jul 2014 19:40
Indeed, then scrap the gantries and prosecute everyone who rushed this failed project through and who gained financially when they would not have gained had they chosen the fuel levy from the start.
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