The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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MAKHURA RECEIVES E-TOLL REPORT

The advisory panel which assessed the economic impact of e-tolls in Gauteng handed over its report to premier David Makhura on Sunday.

Handing over the report the panel's chairman Professor Muxe Nkondo thanked the provincial government for putting its "trust and confidence" in the panel.

"We are very humbled," he said.

Nkondo handed over a file to Makhura as well as all the submissions made during the review process.

The panel, which sat in Pretoria, was appointed by Makhura in July to examine the economic and social impact of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project and the e-tolling system set up to fund it.

Makhura on Sunday said the provincial government would study the report "seriously" and it would be tabled in the provincial legislature.

He could not give details of what was in the report.

"We will consult with municipalities and national government once we have arrived at our own decision [on the report]," he said.

"We take the work of the panel very seriously. The work of the panel was not a waste of time."

Makhura said a decision on the way forward would be made early next year.

"We want to afford ourselves time to plough through [all the work]."

Source : Sapa /gq/jje
Date : 30 Nov 2014 11:28
 
MAKHURA MUM ON E-TOLL REPORT

Gauteng premier David Makhura on Sunday would not divulge what recommendations the e-toll review panel because he had not read it yet and did not want to make any rash announcements.

"We don't want to make a mistake," he told reporters in Johannesburg at the hand over of the report from the review panel.

"In fact one thing the panel says to us is that go and look at what we are recommending, but as you move forward just make sure you do it properly and some of you are expecting that we tell you what is the decision in five minutes. We don't want to make... rash decisions and make another mistake."

There has been a public outcry over the implementation of e-tolls on Gauteng roads with many motorists refusing to pay their bills.

Panel chairman Professor Muxe Nkondo handed the panel's final report to Makhura at the Emoyeni conference centre in Parktown. He was accompanied by some of the panelists.

The panel was appointed by Makhura in July to examine the economic and social impact of the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project and the e-tolling system set up to fund it.

Makhura on Sunday said the provincial government would study the report "seriously" and it would be tabled in the provincial legislature.

"When we speak to national and local government we must know what we are talking about.

The discussions with national and local government was an "officially agreed process".

"Early in the new year we will conclude our process and make a determination. We will then release the report...," he said.

Makhura dismissed those who called the review panel a public relations exercise.

"Democracy can never be said to be a PR exercise. We are taking seriously what people have been raising."

Makhura thanked the panelists for their hard work.

Nkondo, when he handed over the report, thanked the provincial government for putting its "trust and confidence" in the panel.

Source : Sapa /gq/jje
Date : 30 Nov 2014 12:45
 
I already made my own decision, don't care about the gvt's decision on this
 
I love the admission that a
mistake had been made.
 
I'm not sure which day of the week politicians work (if any), but they could have used 10c of the 69c drop in the fuel price this coming week to solve this problem once and for all....... on the other hand, the longer they delay the solution, the longer I ride for free
 
Jola said:
There is a bit of a sunk cost syndrome here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs)

The money spent on the gantries / systems has been wasted, and should just be written off.

The ANC is taking the view that because the money has been spent, e-tolling just has to go ahead.
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The ANC will simply have to eat humble pie on this one, the people have spoken. Yeah the money's gone but no-one is going to pay for their biggest skunk project yet going forward.
 
On Wednesday marks the one year anniversary of the e-tolls going live.

One year later, and I still haven't paid a cent. Proudly South African...
 
Madhawk said:
One year later, and I still haven't paid a cent. Proudly South African...
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That is not 100% accurate: everyone that relies on food, fuel, and other stuff, coming into and going out of Gauteng, via the etrolling roads, has indirectly been paying etrolling fees incorporated into the increased prices that are charged one way or another.

We who have refused to pay SCAMRAL directly are etrolling resistant but not immune.
 
j4ck455 said:
That is not 100% accurate: everyone that relies on food, fuel, and other stuff, coming into and going out of Gauteng, via the etrolling roads, has indirectly been paying etrolling fees incorporated into the increased prices that are charged one way or another.

We who have refused to pay SCAMRAL directly are etrolling resistant but not immune.
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Indeed and so have all of those who's pension funds invested in etrolling.
 
Madhawk said:
On Wednesday marks the one year anniversary of the e-tolls going live.

One year later, and I still haven't paid a cent. Proudly South African...
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Cheers to you and many others (me included) who have kept up fighting a good fight
 
Received a etoll bill in the mail. Should I send it back ( no such person at this address, or rTS) or open it... I wonder what the total is at this point.

Fsk them not paying bullies, cheats or corrupt officials. Still seeing more people without the tag than with the tag on the highways.

Ring fence the fuel levie and stop corruption.
 
Mila said:
Received a etoll bill in the mail. Should I send it back ( no such person at this address, or rTS) or open it... I wonder what the total is at this point.

Fsk them not paying bullies, cheats or corrupt officials. Still seeing more people without the tag than with the tag on the highways.

Ring fence the fuel levie and stop corruption.
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I've always been a fan of the fire option.
 
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/e-tags-may-become-compulsory-report-1.1803252#.VK_lBabavEY

ohannesburg - E-tolls are here to stay and people will be forced to get e-tags - although tariffs will be lowered.

This is according to radio station Power FM, which reported on Friday morning morning that it has seen parts of Gauteng premier David Makhura’s e-toll report.

The report was handed to Makhura at the end of 2014 after he appointed a panel to oversee hearings on the socio-economic impact of e-tolling.

Makhura has not yet made the report public, saying he needed to consult various parties before he did so.

The panel heard the input of hundreds of people over several months at the hearings. The majority of the presentations were overwhelmingly against the system.

Many expressed hope that the hearings and opposition to e-tolls by the provincial government would mean the scrapping of the system.

According to Power FM, the user-pays system for the roads in the province is here to stay, but there were various suggestions on alternatives of implementation with lower costing.

CARS COULD BE E-TAGGED BEFORE LEAVING SHOWROOM

The station also reports that a possible solution for the problems and resistance e-tolling has faced is to make the system compulsory to all motorists in Gauteng. One way was the possibility that cars could get tagged before they leave the showroom floor.

The station also said consultations with deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa and the panel were ongoing.

Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance chairman Wayne Duvenage said he had not seen the report and understood that only part of it had been seen, but if it was true that government would try to force everybody to have e-tags, they would simply face more resistance.

“A car might have an e-tag in it, but tags fail and you will find people removing them,” he said. “All it will do is cause the government to fight with their citizens and, with a local election coming up, I’m not sure that’s a good idea.”

Cosatu spokesman Patrick Craven said that if the reports were true, the trade union federation would be very disappointed.

“We have always been opposed to the e-toll system and if there are simply small changes made in the way it operates, it will not appease us,” Craven said.
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Not too sure what to think of this.
 
LOL, I'd love to see them try to make it compulsory. If they think they have opposition at the moment, they ain't seen nothing yet.
 
Wyzak said:
LOL, I'd love to see them try to make it compulsory. If they think they have opposition at the moment, they ain't seen nothing yet.
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yip, they are now really looking to get their stuff destroyed....
 
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