The Google Threat

having just read the google book ,maybe the google guys not sure where it will end up with a browser but if product is good will lead to some money making due to innovation etc.They just trying to grow revenue streams and dont care if dont work as long as they try.
 
halicon said:
last i checked Google was not a charity, problem is your head is so far up their ass you will never see them as the same as Microsoft, when in fact they are identical.

no better and no worse then Microsoft.

you just fell for their brand hook line and sinker.
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Lol! See what I mean by malcontents looking for a bandwagon? :D

Hali, you just can't compare a company that gave us so much useful stuff for free to the company that gave us the anti-virus software industry.

Google has not become what they are by holding the consumer by ransom like MS has.

They have dominated the internet by being better than MS who has had every advantage from the very beginning.

And how much has gone directly from my pocket to Google in the years that I've been using them? Not a cent.

How can I not be fan?

And when something better comes along I'll be a fan of that.

edit: And btw Im also an Ubuntu fan and an OpenOffice fan. 'cos they're good and they're free. Only a matter of time till the "everything sucks" cynics start ripping into them to I'm guessing.
 
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I gave Chrome a try-out today, and it's OK for a new one on the block, but I'll stick with FF3 and all the add-ons like "ADblock" etc.
 
Hmm..
Doesn't Apple make computers, their own operating system, their own web browser, that popular(z) mp3 player..and gawsh! a cellphone too? best we keep track of them too..

and what about LG: microwaves, TVs, cellphones... [noparse]:eek:[/noparse]
Daewoo: cars, cheap DVD players, washingmachines :double-eek:

[noparse]:rolleyes:[/noparse]
 
At this point in time I think Google have great ideas around how a company can function well when it looks at its staff as a real asset. I am sure you guys have looked into the Googleplex and how they run their ship. I wish 99.9% of companies in the world could get on the same boat. Look after your people, they will work hard for you and look after you, and then you can make some money. Go for it Google, you are ok in my books!
 
Sabbz said:
i personally hate browsing the web with my phone, it's a load of ****. so the fact that google want to make phones - awesome, i'd probably buy one simply because i trust Google products.
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On today's phones yes, but I think Google is positioning for the future, where we may likely see some kind of convergence appearing between (ever more powerful) mobile phones and lower end laptops. The future mobile phone (say, 10 to 15 years out or so) could be roughly as powerful as today's average laptop and be dockable; in a sense mobile phones might "become" the "new PC" particularly if one can create a broad, de facto platform for these devices, then one could feasibly usurp the Windows dominance from 'below' or create a meaningful alternate in the market to Windows. Cellphones and computers are becoming more like one another all the time.
 
The mobile phone will never replace the PC, get real. Who wants to surf and type while squinting and using their thumbs? Mobile phones have a very limited set of functions, even if the technology was all in place they are inherently limited by their size.

As for the Google browser, great. It has to be better than Opera and Safari. It will simply live or die on its merits. It's already a crowded market. If they bring the same level of innovation as with Gmail, I'm all for it.
 
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Googles products have become very mediocre it the last few years. They are not what they used to be.
 
cerebus said:
The mobile phone will never replace the PC, get real. Who wants to surf and type while squinting and using their thumbs? Mobile phones have a very limited set of functions, even if the technology was all in place they are inherently limited by their size.

As for the Google browser, great. It has to be better than Opera and Safari. It will simply live or die on its merits. It's already a crowded market. If they bring the same level of innovation as with Gmail, I'm all for it.
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Well it certainly wont replace my PC but Im typing this on my Samsung i600 in Opera mini as I wait for a cup of coffee at a coffee shop.
I do a lot of stuff on the internet on my trusty i600.
As the technology gets cheaper and smart phones become more accessible, I see them becoming a viable alternative to PC's for the the lower end of the market.
Andriod along with cheaper mobile processors will ensure we all have cheap and powerful smart phones in the next couple of years. No doubt about it.
 
Yes i used to use my phone to go on the internet a lot. But it was no desktop replacement. To be honest I think the iPhone is about the limit of what a phone can practically do in terms of utilities.
 
cerebus said:
Yes i used to use my phone to go on the internet a lot. But it was no desktop replacement. To be honest I think the iPhone is about the limit of what a phone can practically do in terms of utilities.
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I'm not sure what you mean really. Eventually cellphones will packing as much power (in terms of memory, processing power, and storage space) as todays average PC. It stands to reason. The only limit is screen real-estate really, but there will always be innovative ways around that. Opera mini 4 on an E61 or similar is pretty awesome what with the zoom function. Add a decent portable office suite (better yet, intergrated google docs), Voip (skype, fring), IM and games (take a look at the popularity of Guitar Hero for Nokia) and you have a serious contender to the laptop on convenience alone.
If you could get all that for under two grand or better yet on some cheapo cell contract it becomes a serious contender to the PC for those on a limited budget.
 
Sure they will eventually have as much power. But I doubt you'll ever be able to use them for serious computer work.

I have a pretty powerful PDA (Axim X51V) which I used to do emails on when I was travelling and could get wi-fi access, and while it was functional enough in a pinch, in fact it was seriously crippled compared to a PC. I would never have considered using it to write a document on. The screen real estate, even with proper VGA resolution, was far too cramped and typing was next to impossible on the rinky-dink little on-screen keyboard they provided. I could buy always buy a little bluetooth keyboard or so, but that would have meant more to carry around etc, etc. And those problems will always be there, no matter how much processing power and storage they manage to cram into phones/PDAs, just the size issue alone. It's an issue of touch-typing vs thumb typing, a 19 inch screen vs a 3.5 in screen, keyboard and mouse vs touchscreen and so on. The devil is in the details.

Not to mention that people on a budget are not going to be able to afford a phone with enough power to replace a PC. Pound for pound, they're better off just getting a computer with average specs.
 
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If cellphones get so powerful that I can plug a monitor, mouse and keyboard into them and run normal office applications, it'll be awesome. It'll be like carrying around your desktop PC box and just docking it anywhere you go.

These ultra mobile laptops are already proving that people don't need a lot of horse power to get a job done.
 
Yes, that's certainly a possibility. But then who's supplying the keyboard/monitor? Are you going to carry those around too? I think the Asus EEE PCs are about as small as you can possibly go and still be useful for normal computing applications.
 
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cerebus said:
Sure they will eventually have as much power. But I doubt you'll ever be able to use them for serious computer work.

I have a pretty powerful PDA (Axim X51V) which I used to do emails on when I was travelling and could get wi-fi access, and while it was functional enough in a pinch, in fact it was seriously crippled compared to a PC. I would never have considered using it to write a document on. The screen real estate, even with proper VGA resolution, was far too cramped and typing was next to impossible on the rinky-dink little on-screen keyboard they provided. I could buy always buy a little bluetooth keyboard or so, but that would have meant more to carry around etc, etc. And those problems will always be there, no matter how much processing power and storage they manage to cram into phones/PDAs, just the size issue alone. It's an issue of touch-typing vs thumb typing, a 19 inch screen vs a 3.5 in screen, keyboard and mouse vs touchscreen and so on. The devil is in the details.

Not to mention that people on a budget are not going to be able to afford a phone with enough power to replace a PC. Pound for pound, they're better off just getting a computer with average specs.
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Well its a matter of opinion i suppose. Time will tell.

As for your last statement: more powerful phones are getting cheap quickly. Phones are already the main means of accessing the net for some people. Logic dictates that someone will try to find a way to make the experience more rewarding for them. Well, actually Google and partners already are aren't they?

A web based app model that allows users to work from a PC, ultra portable, or cell phone seems to be the way things are going. I for one think its great.
 
Oh I think it's great too. I loved being able to use the internet on my phone when I had it. And it's only going to get better. I think that they are just two technologies which can comfortably coexist and offer unique experiences. At one time they thought Bluetooth would be made obsolete by wi-fi, but actually they both have differing and equally useful functions.
 
cerebus said:
The mobile phone will never replace the PC, get real. Who wants to surf and type while squinting and using their thumbs? Mobile phones have a very limited set of functions, even if the technology was all in place they are inherently limited by their size.
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Perhaps you ought to read my post again, noting the keyword "dockable". The idea isn't to type on it directly for day to day computing, lol.

This will happen, it is pretty much inevitable unless technological progress stops due to e.g. armageddon or disease or civilizational collapse.
 
If they can perfect projection technologies and have laser scanned keyboards/ voice input devices, perhaps the PDA will one day replace the PC.
 
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