The HD Format Wars Thread

While we're on this topic and on this thread I'd like to point out that most of what has been written about the porn industry in this thread and many others on myadsl is just misinformed crap.
1. Betamax didn't fail because of the porn industry alone. Betamax failed mainly because Sony refused to license it to third party vendors at a low price. JVC licensed VHS for a low price and thus there were many third party recorders available for a low price. The fact that porn was released on VHS was a business issue - more players = more customers.

2. Even if (for argument's sake) the porn industry did kill Betamax as a consumer format, you cannot compare the early 1980s to the situation today. Today the main porn distribution channel is not packaged media (like DVD etc.) but digital download, so why would one or the other high definition format win through porn industry support?

3. In any case, the porn industry has never stated that they would support one or the other, it was some arbitrary blogger that created a rumour that gets repeated time and again with very little factual basis.
 
feo said:
OK, seems things are heating up with the whole HD format wars so I thought we'd have a dedicated thread to discuss it until it ends.

Right now Blu-Ray has the upper hand. Let's review. Warner and Fox were apparently in cahoots to go HD-DVD as their sole format but Warner would only choose the format if they had the backing of another major player. However both companies opted out with Warner accepting a $500m deal (read bribe) from BDA to drop HD-DVD. You can read up on the gory details here.
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uh... no. just another unfounded rumour.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warner:_No_Payoff_for_Move_to_Blu-ray/1327
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bwana said:
Same here but I know why :) Sony has proven to me beyond a doubt that they're not trustworthy.
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Dude, Apple has indicated Bluray as the future, sucks but what can you do.
 
NoADSLyet said:
Nope! Rather advanced Technology Fanboi .
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Keyword boi, leave the new technology to us men. :D haha

Anyway, arf brings up a very good point about the way porn is propogated across the net, most of it is in digital format anyway so it makes sense that the porn industry wouldn't have as much say in this war as they did with VHS in the past.
 
feo said:
Keyword boi, leave the new technology to us men. :D haha
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Yeah then porn was a newbie then (illegal and attractive) and the net basically unheard off. Those days are gone.

Are You a man? :confused: You mean to say (boi) the Xbox360 army???? :D
 
arf9999 said:
VHS was anything but robust. The tape was fragile and wore out over time. DVD and CD are far more robust over time,
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Just personal experience, quite a few of my ancient VHS tapes have outlasted much newer DVDs. Its not the in-machine wear that does the real damage, rather the out-of-machine stuff e.g drops etc.

I'm not advocating that we go back to tapes, just saying the next-gen designers should have given more thought to real-world wear & tear. Anyways I archive everything to Xvid these days & watch off Flash/HDD.
 
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arf9999 said:
uh... no. just another unfounded rumour.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warner:_No_Payoff_for_Move_to_Blu-ray/1327
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dear God a person/company claiming they've done nothing illegal :eek:

I do however agree with you on your assessment of the porn industry.

Re robustness of tape vs dvd. I have to say that I never experienced any visible degradation of tape throughout the 80s. And this is over Betamax and VHS. At home we taped over a great deal of tapes and they held their ground. The only seriously degraded video (and notice I do not say tape) was a porn video. And I say that because I can't verify whether it was dubbed from a poor cassette or if the actual cassette was terrible.

Of course when you have DVDs you know you have to take care. So you do. Nothing wrong there. But it does not take away the fact that they are not robust. Of course I
 
milomak said:
dear God a person/company claiming they've done nothing illegal :eek:

I do however agree with you on your assessment of the porn industry.

Re robustness of tape vs dvd. I have to say that I never experienced any visible degradation of tape throughout the 80s. And this is over Betamax and VHS. At home we taped over a great deal of tapes and they held their ground. The only seriously degraded video (and notice I do not say tape) was a porn video. And I say that because I can't verify whether it was dubbed from a poor cassette or if the actual cassette was terrible.

Of course when you have DVDs you know you have to take care. So you do. Nothing wrong there. But it does not take away the fact that they are not robust. Of course I
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fall asleep half way through your point?

I'm sorry but I don't think your experience of VHS is the same as everyone else's. VHS tapes degrade over time. The more you play them the worse the picture.
 
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