The Islamic State Thread

OBAMA, CONGRESS LEADERS CONSIDER MILITARY OPTIONS FOR IRAQ
BY PAT REBER, DPA

US President Barack Obama huddled Wednesday with congressional leaders over the growing crisis in Iraq as the Sunni-led insurgency moved on Iraq's largest oil refinery. US defence officials confirmed that Iraq had asked Washington to mount airstrikes against the jihadist movement, the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). "It is in our national security interests to counter ISIL wherever we find them," General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Congress. He said that until a very chaotic "intelligence picture" can be clarified, it would not be as "easy as looking at an iPhone video of a convoy and then immediately striking it." Dempsey and Secretary of Defence Chuck Hagel assured Congress that they were preparing and refining options to be presented to Obama to make a decision. At his meeting with the four top leaders in Congress, Obama reviewed "options for increased security assistance," White House press secretary Jay Carney said. Obama has ruled out only one military option, sending US combat troops back into Iraq, Carney said. The president would need the consent of Congress if he chooses a military option. "Options like airstrikes, as the president said, he's not ruled in or out, but there has to be a reason for those. There has to be an objective," Hagel told Congress. "What does it do to move the effort down the road for a political solution?" Washington is already sending 170 military personnel to Baghdad to reinforce security at its embassy and relocate diplomats to safety, and another 100 personnel to help with airfield management, security and logistics support "if required," Carney said. A splinter al-Qaeda group, ISIL launched its blitz against government forces last week, seizing the northern city of Mosul and a string of towns stretching south toward Baghdad. Insurgents' lightning advances have raised international concerns that Iraq is falling apart, leaving room for the emergence of a militant enclave stretching from Syria across northern Iraq. The sense of urgency prompted Hagel to call ISIL a "huge threat" to US interests and diplomats. US officials were unsparing in their criticism of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, on whom they place much of the blame for the Sunni unrest now fueling ISIL's offensive. They accuse al-Maliki of governing in a sectarian, pro-Shiite fashion and failing to unite the disparate ethnic and religious groups of Iraq. "Governing in a sectarian way or reinforcing a perception that the central government is pursuing sectarian interests is not a recipe for success when it comes to dealing with the common threat posed by ISIL," Carney said. US Vice President Joe Biden spoke with al-Maliki via telephone on Wednesday and said the United States "stands ready" to echance its support to all Iraqis in their fight against ISIL, according to a statement released by the White House. "At the same time, [Biden] emphasized the need for the prime minister - and all Iraqi leaders - to govern in an inclusive manner, promote stability and unity among Iraq's population, and address the legitimate needs of Iraq's diverse communities," the statement added. The US spent 25 billion dollars to train and equip Iraq security forces between 2003-12, when it withdrew its military in the absence of a status of forces agreement with Baghdad. More than 4,000 US soldiers died during the war. Dempsey expressed "bitter disappointment that Iraq's leaders failed to unite for the good of their people." He said that the sectarian governance under al-Maliki was one cause of last week's security collapse, as two Iraqi military divisions and part of the national police organization fled last week in the face of advancing ISIL forces. "They had simply lost faith that the central government in Iraq was dealing with the entire population in a fair, equitable way that provided hope for all of them," Dempsey said. Washington has repeatedly called on al-Maliki to seek a political solution to the crisis and to involve the Sunni minority in the process. During Senate hearings, Senator Dianne Feinstein said that Iraq's ambassador to the US, Lukman Faily, had told her there were an estimated 20,000 insurgents pushing through Iraq. About 10,000 of them were core ISIL militants, she said.


Source : Sapa-dpa /gm
Date : 19 Jun 2014 04:38
 
Sky is reporting that about 400 Brits are figting in the ISIS ranks. It does not say however if these are Arabs that obtained British citizenship.
 
OBAMA, CONGRESS LEADERS CONSIDER MILITARY OPTIONS FOR IRAQ
BY PAT REBER, DPA

oh no
no no no


dont be wasting money & time

rather spend the billions on giant walls, fence them in, quarantine the lot & allow them them fight it out until the end.

when there is a last man standing, put a couple of snipers on the wall - shoot him between the eyes.

you go in & you will hear the incessant bleating "get out of our lands".
either way, the dirty crooked finger will always try point at the infidel - so you may as well not waste the money

listen to the masses now, let them sort their own crap out, for once & for all - for the greater good of humanity.
 
oh no
no no no


dont be wasting money & time

rather spend the billions on giant walls, fence them in, quarantine the lot & allow them them fight it out until the end.

when there is a last man standing, put a couple of snipers on the wall - shoot him between the eyes.

you go in & you will hear the incessant bleating "get out of our lands".
either way, the dirty crooked finger will always try point at the infidel - so you may as well not waste the money

listen to the masses now, let them sort their own crap out, for once & for all - for the greater good of humanity.

but the oil my darling .... what about the oil? Without dem oils there will be no more KY!!! :eek:


:p
 
but the oil my darling .... what about the oil? Without dem oils there will be no more KY!!! :eek:


:p

canada & mexico sugarlips
hell, the usa is sitting on their own giant oil fields


it's just they have been using up & sucking it out of the ground of the stupid & greedy arabs for a long time now
 
Arab, muslim, does not matter. Both would have been seen as non PC I suspect. Kind of like when it is said that two black men raped and killed a woman in her home. These you cant say that on the news anymore. Only that they were men.

As an aside I watched a nice French comedy recently. There a French grandma who gets into the hash selling business - via dagga cookies - haha - hated her half black grandson (a kid of 8 or 9) and told him repeatedly she does not love him because he's black, and likewish hates her son in law, a black cop - for him being black. She is not shown in a negative light at all and it's just taken for granted. Her black priest from Congo is also shown as a man who sort of accepts her drug money to fix the church roof but warns her not to continue dealing in drugs yet asks no further questions about further money. It's full of racial stereotypes and it doesn't condemn the woman for her racial views. But then again, the French are mature about this sort of thing. The English would probably pop a vein -- after all Puritanism is English - and the current crop of Social Justice Warriors are just Puritans sans God faith.
 
Stratfor is thinking that Jordan may be next on ISIS list.

The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, buoyed by its recent successes in Iraq, wants to expand its regional reach. Reports that Iraq has withdrawn forces from western towns close to its 180-kilometer (110-mile) border with Jordan have left Amman feeling vulnerable, and the Hashemite kingdom, certainly a target of interest for the jihadist movement, has deployed additional security personnel along the border.

However, taking on Jordan would be tough for the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant. The group has the ability to stage terrorist attacks in the country, but significant constraints will prevent it from operating on the levels seen in Iraq and Syria.

Read more: Jordan Could Be the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant's Next Target | Stratfor
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Full article (FREE): http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/jo...te-iraq-and-levants-next-target#axzz355DDFp3w
 
It's not as though the SS did not include volunteers from Sweden, Norway, Holland and so on either.
 
Sky is reporting that about 400 Brits are figting in the ISIS ranks. It does not say however if these are Arabs that obtained British citizenship.

Watched VICE's news piece on it. Man with a mask on preaching BS propaganda to a camera with a full-on East London accent.

They're in Northern Syria as well, fighting for Al Nusra and ISIS there.

[video=youtube;7jD146Rx80k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jD146Rx80k[/video]
 
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IRAQ FORCES REGAIN CONTROL OF MAIN REFINERY: OFFICIALS

Iraqi government forces regained full control Thursday of the country's biggest oil refinery after heavy fighting with Sunni militants attempting to seize it, officials said.

Sunni Arab insurgents had stormed the complex in Baiji, south of Iraq's militant-held second city Mosul, on Wednesday, setting fire to several storage tanks for refined products in a move that sent jitters through world oil markets.

"The security forces are in full control of the Baiji refinery," Lieutenant General Qassem Atta, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's security spokesman, said in televised remarks.

A refinery employee told AFP that the militants had withdrawn, as did other witnesses, who said the assailants quit the sprawling complex in the face of a heavy fightback by security forces.

Clashes erupted at the refinery early on Wednesday, setting storage tanks for petroleum products alight. The fighting went on until roughly midnight (2100 GMT Wednesday) and continued sporadically into Thursday.

The refinery is the biggest in Iraq, accounting for some 50 percent of the country's supplies of refined products.

But its catchment area has been sharply curtailed by the militants' seizure of a swathe of northern Iraq, including second city Mosul, which has a population of some two million people.


Source : Sapa-AFP /mr
Date : 19 Jun 2014 14:42
 
I think between the Kurds, Sunni, Shiites and the US forces all taking up arms, ISIS are going to have a tough time as hell in Iraq.

They do this though, storm in with a surprise attack then quickly retreat. Typical terrorist modus operandi, never changes.
 
I think between the Kurds, Sunni, Shiites and the US forces all taking up arms, ISIS are going to have a tough time as hell in Iraq.

They do this though, storm in with a surprise attack then quickly retreat. Typical terrorist modus operandi, never changes.

The porous Iraqi and Syrian borders won't help either. Batter them in northern Iraq and they'll just flee into northern Syria and regroup.
 
I think between the Kurds, Sunni, Shiites and the US forces all taking up arms, ISIS are going to have a tough time as hell in Iraq.

They do this though, storm in with a surprise attack then quickly retreat. Typical terrorist modus operandi, never changes.

Same as any other thug. The element of surprise is usually with the party on the offence.
 
PETRAEUS BACKS STRIKES AGAINST 'TERRORIST ARMY' IN IRAQ

US General David Petraeus, a former commander of US forces in Iraq, said Friday he would support targeted strikes against jihadists behind an offensive in the strife-torn country, who he said were developing into a "terrorist army".

Petraeus, who won praise for leading the troop surge that preceded Washington's exit from Iraq after a costly eight-year war, told the Daily Telegraph newspaper that the militants posed a risk to countries outside the region.

"We must be careful not to take sides if we offer military support. But the growing threat posed by ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIL) means that military action will be necessary," he said.

"We must realise that ISIS poses a threat not only to Iraq but to the UK and other countries as well."

He added: "It seems to be much more than a terrorist group: it seems to be turning into a terrorist army, one that has acquired vast financial resources from looting banks and other criminal enterprises."

US President Barack Obama on Thursday pledged to take "precise" military action if required in Iraq and offered up to 300 US advisors to train Iraqi forces, after the Shiite-led government in Baghdad formally asked for air support.

"If President Obama and other leaders conclude that the threat posed by ISIS is significant then I would support actions to target high-value ISIS elements," Petraeus told the Telegraph.

"If ISIS is seen as a terrorist organisation with the potential to engage in terrorist acts beyond the Middle East, then that could warrant the targeting of high value targets."

In a speech in London on Thursday, however, Petraeus warned there needed to be a radical change of politics in Baghdad to reflect Iraq's multi-confessional, multi-ethnic make-up before any US intervention.

"This cannot be the United States being the air force for Shiite militias, or a Shiite on Sunni Arab fight," he said.


Source : Sapa-AFP /mr
Date : 20 Jun 2014 11:57
 
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