LazyLion
King of de Jungle
They probably blame the US for invading Iraq and creating this mess in the first place... and they wouldn't be entirely wrong.
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They probably blame the US for invading Iraq and creating this mess in the first place... and they wouldn't be entirely wrong.
ToxicBunny
Oi! Leave me out of this...
True they wouldn't be, but they could at least have been doing something to try get this situation under control, or actually helping the international community in a more visible way (I'm assuming they're doing SOMETHING rather than just sitting on their hands so far)
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Didn't they offer to pay for the West to depose Assad through military intervention?
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Less not forget Saddam and his plans in the MidEast. The fact that the different Muslim factions cannot agree to live and let live are the biggest thorn in Iraq and the ME.
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LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Ja, agreed.
Diplos
Senior Member
Can't help that ISIS (nice rhyme, ISIS crisis btw) makes me think of this:
On a serious note, I think a lot of people don't realise how 'normal' and progressive Iran used to be before ayatollah khomeini. They were really pretty enlightened and 'western'. A good read on the time went things started going south is Mark Bowden's 'Guests of the Ayatollah'.
This Pathe short is on Baghdad but it gives an idea of the relative normality in Iran & Iraq before the muslim nutjobs started taking over...
[video=youtube;AajPxROvcTA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AajPxROvcTA[/video]
On a serious note, I think a lot of people don't realise how 'normal' and progressive Iran used to be before ayatollah khomeini. They were really pretty enlightened and 'western'. A good read on the time went things started going south is Mark Bowden's 'Guests of the Ayatollah'.
This Pathe short is on Baghdad but it gives an idea of the relative normality in Iran & Iraq before the muslim nutjobs started taking over...
[video=youtube;AajPxROvcTA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AajPxROvcTA[/video]
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
OMAN AIR TO AVOID IRAQ AIRSPACE
Oman's national carrier will no longer overfly Iraq in the wake of US strikes on jihadist positions there, it announced Monday after several other companies had re-routed their flights.
Oman Air said the decision concerned flights heading to Europe and Beirut.
"This is a preventive measure due to the events taking place in the region," the airline said in a statement on the official Omani news agency ONA.
Oman Air recalled that it had since April re-routed flights over Ukraine and Syria due to the conflicts in both countries.
The Federal Aviation Administration in Washington banned all US civilian flights over Iraq just hours after American warplanes Friday carried out the first air strikes on positions held by jihadists of the Islamic State, who have occupied swathes of northern Iraq.
A slew of airlines have also said they will no longer overfly Iraq, including British Airways, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, Swiss, Air France, Emirates, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Kuwait Airways, and Abu Dhabi's Etihad Airways.
bur/tm/lyn/anw
Oman Air is following in the footsteps of other Arab Gulf airlines which shying overflying Iraq, like Kuwait Airways said Sunday that alternative routes through the airspace of Iran, Saudi and Egyptian.
The United Arab Emirates, Etihad Airlines diverted flights Saturday above Iraq while continuing to serve Baghdad and Basra. The company had already suspended its flights on Thursday Erbil, the capital of the autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan. Emirates has taken the same decision Saturday.
The Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) has banned Friday to American commercial aircraft flying over Iraq, hours after the first American air strikes against positions jihadists of the Islamic state (EI), which took control of swathes of Iraqi territory in favor of an offensive launched on June 9
British Airways has suspended its flights over Iraq, as well as Lufthansa and its subsidiaries Austrian Airlines and Swiss, as well as Air France, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines and Virgin Atlantic.
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 13:51
Oman's national carrier will no longer overfly Iraq in the wake of US strikes on jihadist positions there, it announced Monday after several other companies had re-routed their flights.
Oman Air said the decision concerned flights heading to Europe and Beirut.
"This is a preventive measure due to the events taking place in the region," the airline said in a statement on the official Omani news agency ONA.
Oman Air recalled that it had since April re-routed flights over Ukraine and Syria due to the conflicts in both countries.
The Federal Aviation Administration in Washington banned all US civilian flights over Iraq just hours after American warplanes Friday carried out the first air strikes on positions held by jihadists of the Islamic State, who have occupied swathes of northern Iraq.
A slew of airlines have also said they will no longer overfly Iraq, including British Airways, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, Swiss, Air France, Emirates, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Kuwait Airways, and Abu Dhabi's Etihad Airways.
bur/tm/lyn/anw
Oman Air is following in the footsteps of other Arab Gulf airlines which shying overflying Iraq, like Kuwait Airways said Sunday that alternative routes through the airspace of Iran, Saudi and Egyptian.
The United Arab Emirates, Etihad Airlines diverted flights Saturday above Iraq while continuing to serve Baghdad and Basra. The company had already suspended its flights on Thursday Erbil, the capital of the autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan. Emirates has taken the same decision Saturday.
The Federal Aviation Agency (FAA) has banned Friday to American commercial aircraft flying over Iraq, hours after the first American air strikes against positions jihadists of the Islamic state (EI), which took control of swathes of Iraqi territory in favor of an offensive launched on June 9
British Airways has suspended its flights over Iraq, as well as Lufthansa and its subsidiaries Austrian Airlines and Swiss, as well as Air France, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines and Virgin Atlantic.
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 13:51
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
FRANCE ASKS EU TO 'MOBILISE' TO ARM KURDS IN IRAQ
French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius on Monday called on the European Union to "mobilise" to respond to appeals from Iraq's Kurds for arms to fight Islamic State jihadists.
In a letter to EU foreign affairs supremo Catherine Ashton, Fabius said: "It is crucial that the European Union mobilises from today to respond to this appeal for help."
Fabius, who has just returned from a trip to Iraq where he met Iraqi Kurdish president Massud Barzani, explained that the latter had stressed "the urgent need for weapons and ammunition that would allow them to confront and beat the terrorist group Islamic State."
"I would be very grateful if you could urgently mobilise the member states and the European institutions to respond," Fabius wrote to Ashton.
"It seems to me that a special meeting of the council of (European) foreign ministers would be desirable," he added.
During his visit to Iraq on Sunday to oversee a shipment of humanitarian aid from France, Fabius said the Kurdish authorities "must receive, in a sure way, equipment that will allow them to defend themselves and to counterattack."
"We will look into that over the coming days but in liaison with the Europeans," Fabius told France 2 television.
France and Britain have pledged support for a US-led operation helping Iraqi civilians -- many of them from the Yazidi minority -- who are fleeing a murderous advance by Islamic State (IS) militants.
While all three Western countries are providing emergency aid for the besieged civilians, the United States has also been conducting air strikes on IS positions.
Fabius reiterated his call for "all the political leaders in Iraq to hold talks to find a quick political solution that is acceptable to all parts of the country."
Italian Foreign Minister Federica Mogherini also called earlier on Monday for a special EU meeting to discuss "Iraq, Gaza and Libya, three crises which concern Europe directly."
"We're not talking about military intervention but providing support, even of a military sort, to the Kurdish government," Mogherini said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 13:50
French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius on Monday called on the European Union to "mobilise" to respond to appeals from Iraq's Kurds for arms to fight Islamic State jihadists.
In a letter to EU foreign affairs supremo Catherine Ashton, Fabius said: "It is crucial that the European Union mobilises from today to respond to this appeal for help."
Fabius, who has just returned from a trip to Iraq where he met Iraqi Kurdish president Massud Barzani, explained that the latter had stressed "the urgent need for weapons and ammunition that would allow them to confront and beat the terrorist group Islamic State."
"I would be very grateful if you could urgently mobilise the member states and the European institutions to respond," Fabius wrote to Ashton.
"It seems to me that a special meeting of the council of (European) foreign ministers would be desirable," he added.
During his visit to Iraq on Sunday to oversee a shipment of humanitarian aid from France, Fabius said the Kurdish authorities "must receive, in a sure way, equipment that will allow them to defend themselves and to counterattack."
"We will look into that over the coming days but in liaison with the Europeans," Fabius told France 2 television.
France and Britain have pledged support for a US-led operation helping Iraqi civilians -- many of them from the Yazidi minority -- who are fleeing a murderous advance by Islamic State (IS) militants.
While all three Western countries are providing emergency aid for the besieged civilians, the United States has also been conducting air strikes on IS positions.
Fabius reiterated his call for "all the political leaders in Iraq to hold talks to find a quick political solution that is acceptable to all parts of the country."
Italian Foreign Minister Federica Mogherini also called earlier on Monday for a special EU meeting to discuss "Iraq, Gaza and Libya, three crises which concern Europe directly."
"We're not talking about military intervention but providing support, even of a military sort, to the Kurdish government," Mogherini said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 13:50
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
BRITAIN ABORTS SECOND IRAQ AID DROP OVER SAFETY FEARS
Britain was forced to abort a second airdrop of humanitarian aid to refugees in northern Iraq on Monday over fears about hitting the people below, a military spokesman said.
Another attempt to deliver desperately needed food and water to Yazidis who fled Islamic State (IS) jihadists and are stranded on Mount Sinjar is likely to take place within the next 24 hours.
"The ongoing effort to get badly-needed supplies to displaced people in northern Iraq continues," a spokesman for the Royal Air Force (RAF) said.
"The safety of the Yazidi community is paramount. With a number of people at the drop sites this morning, the crew made the responsible decision not to carry out the air drop to ensure that the lives of those in the area would not be put at risk.
"We plan to deliver the next drop as soon as possible."
Two transport planes left Britain on Saturday and the first drop was made that night, including 1,200 water containers providing 6,000 litres of water, and 240 solar lanterns that double as phone chargers.
Britain is also working with the United States, Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan region, Turkey and other international partners on how to bring the Yazidis down from the mountain, officials say.
Britain has offered surveillance and refuelling support for US aid flights, but insists it will not be joining Washington in conducting air strikes on the IS militants.
A spokeswoman for Prime Minister David Cameron's office reiterated his position on Monday, and said that a recall of parliament from its summer recess to discuss Britain's response was "not on the cards".
"We have been clear that British combat troops will not be going back to fight in Iraq," she said. "There is not a discussion under way on the UK playing a role in air strikes."
Asked about the possibility of arming local forces on the ground, she said: "We do think it's important that the Iraqi forces, including the Kurdish forces, are able to respond to IS and to tackle this crisis in the country.
"We will look at what options there are that might enable them to do that. But there have not been substantive discussions on that yet and there are certainly no decisions."
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 14:38
Britain was forced to abort a second airdrop of humanitarian aid to refugees in northern Iraq on Monday over fears about hitting the people below, a military spokesman said.
Another attempt to deliver desperately needed food and water to Yazidis who fled Islamic State (IS) jihadists and are stranded on Mount Sinjar is likely to take place within the next 24 hours.
"The ongoing effort to get badly-needed supplies to displaced people in northern Iraq continues," a spokesman for the Royal Air Force (RAF) said.
"The safety of the Yazidi community is paramount. With a number of people at the drop sites this morning, the crew made the responsible decision not to carry out the air drop to ensure that the lives of those in the area would not be put at risk.
"We plan to deliver the next drop as soon as possible."
Two transport planes left Britain on Saturday and the first drop was made that night, including 1,200 water containers providing 6,000 litres of water, and 240 solar lanterns that double as phone chargers.
Britain is also working with the United States, Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan region, Turkey and other international partners on how to bring the Yazidis down from the mountain, officials say.
Britain has offered surveillance and refuelling support for US aid flights, but insists it will not be joining Washington in conducting air strikes on the IS militants.
A spokeswoman for Prime Minister David Cameron's office reiterated his position on Monday, and said that a recall of parliament from its summer recess to discuss Britain's response was "not on the cards".
"We have been clear that British combat troops will not be going back to fight in Iraq," she said. "There is not a discussion under way on the UK playing a role in air strikes."
Asked about the possibility of arming local forces on the ground, she said: "We do think it's important that the Iraqi forces, including the Kurdish forces, are able to respond to IS and to tackle this crisis in the country.
"We will look at what options there are that might enable them to do that. But there have not been substantive discussions on that yet and there are certainly no decisions."
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 14:38
The_Assimilator
Executive Member
Iraq president has replaced its prime minister: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/11/world/meast/iraq-crisis/index.html (warning, auto-playing video)
Hopefully al-Maliki will go peacefully, if not...
Hopefully al-Maliki will go peacefully, if not...
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
LUFTHANSA SUSPENDS FLIGHTS TO ARBIL UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
German airline Lufthansa said on Monday that it is suspending flights to the Iraqi Kurdish city of Arbil "until further notice", following a review of security in Iraq.
The carrier had announced last Friday that it was suspending flights to the city -- currently the only destination in Iraq that Lufthansa serves -- over the weekend.
The latest decision affected daily flights by Austrian Airlines between Arbil and Vienna, as twice-weekly services operated by Lufthansa from Frankfurt, the statement said.
Lufthansa said that on flights to Asia and the Middle East, "the airlines of the Lufthansa group will continue to make a detour around Iraqi airspace as well."
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 16:19
German airline Lufthansa said on Monday that it is suspending flights to the Iraqi Kurdish city of Arbil "until further notice", following a review of security in Iraq.
The carrier had announced last Friday that it was suspending flights to the city -- currently the only destination in Iraq that Lufthansa serves -- over the weekend.
The latest decision affected daily flights by Austrian Airlines between Arbil and Vienna, as twice-weekly services operated by Lufthansa from Frankfurt, the statement said.
Lufthansa said that on flights to Asia and the Middle East, "the airlines of the Lufthansa group will continue to make a detour around Iraqi airspace as well."
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 16:19
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
IRAQ PRESIDENT NOMINATES NEW PM, SPURNS MALIKI
Iraqi President Fuad Masum on Monday tasked deputy parliamentary speaker Haidar al-Abadi with forming a government during a brief ceremony broadcast on state television.
"The country is now in your hands," Masum told Abadi, who moments earlier was selected as nominee for prime minister instead of incumbent Nuri al-Maliki by the Shiite National Alliance parliamentary bloc.
Abadi, a member of Maliki's Dawa party who is viewed as close to the two-term premier, was communications minister in the interim government following the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, after spending much of the dictator's rule in exile.
He was elected to parliament in 2006, chaired the finance committee and became deputy parliament speaker earlier this year.
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 16:33
Iraqi President Fuad Masum on Monday tasked deputy parliamentary speaker Haidar al-Abadi with forming a government during a brief ceremony broadcast on state television.
"The country is now in your hands," Masum told Abadi, who moments earlier was selected as nominee for prime minister instead of incumbent Nuri al-Maliki by the Shiite National Alliance parliamentary bloc.
Abadi, a member of Maliki's Dawa party who is viewed as close to the two-term premier, was communications minister in the interim government following the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, after spending much of the dictator's rule in exile.
He was elected to parliament in 2006, chaired the finance committee and became deputy parliament speaker earlier this year.
Source : Sapa-AFP /lk
Date : 11 Aug 2014 16:33
http://www.christianpost.com/news/2...ch-calls-for-protection-of-christians-124605/
gotta admit, if it wasnt for the US, world police, the world would be a much worse place
No other country has the balls or will power to deal with these issues
gotta admit, if it wasnt for the US, world police, the world would be a much worse place
No other country has the balls or will power to deal with these issues
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They the ones who caused this crisis
not really
they give the Iraqi people the opportunity to flourish in a dictator-less society, they chose to kill each other instead
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Remove any and all agency from the actual militant groups? Sure, why not.
Wahhabism is much older than the US's ill-fated frolicking in the Middle East.
Nanfeishen
Executive Member
Actually they removed the glue that held the country together, the same glue that also seperated Iraq's ethnic and religious divisions.
And, instead of replacing it with something stronger, or better, they expected it to stand up on its own.
Really stupid and short sighted.
If they had done they would have been accused of installing a puppet dictator.....
In any case the cause of the current crises ironically was the non-interventionist approach to Syria and withdrawing the troops from Iraq in 2010
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OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
A genocidal despot glue? Okay then.
If they did 'replace' it with anything they would have been blamed of installing puppet regimes. Whatever they do they'll be attacked for it.
Nothing sticks like Baathist glue. Ask the Syrians