The Man United Thread

[hj2k_x]

I think EVRA really worked hard 2nite

Ya, he has been great for us so far this season.

Rafael looks like he has a lot of promise too. Maybe Neville G's last season?

 

[The_Traveller]

Ya, he has been great for us so far this season.

Rafael looks like he has a lot of promise too. Maybe Neville G's last season?

Evra is always playing well.

Pretty sure this will be GN's last season. Lets hope Rafael can step it up and be consistant and we'll see Brown warming the bench most of the season.

 

[gnomez]

Berba scoring two goals , but he was not celebrating ? I know the 1st goal was a gift, but 2nd one was quite impressive. Why is he in such a sad mood

Ronaldo missed a few chances but he was good as usual, still doesnt look 100% fit though.

Nani was Nani as usual, useless.
O'sheat was O'sheat as usual.
Rafael was awesome, I hope he gets more games ahead of Wes Brown who should rather just remain on the bench.

Tevez, well he just couldnt pass, and the one chance he had to shoot, he passes badly to Ronaldo.

anything else guys ?

yup, pretty much spot on for last nights game.

weldone to berba on his 2 goals (even though i still dont like him )
now all he needs to do is drop his "moody-pms'y-housewife" attitude and who knows, he could become a crowd favourite.

 

[dbecks]

Berbatov - I will deliver
Well i think he should start doing it cos talk is way too cheap right now.

I totally agree, i would have prefered Huntelaar to Berbs, and also another RB since they did lose out on Bosingwa. Maybe they are counting on Fabio ?

What was that about talk being cheap - you surely were referring to yourself, especially your comment about wanting Hunterlaar over Berba. Berba is was tall striker/target man who is way more more classier and skillfull (especially his link up play which is phenomenal), which is the kind of player we needed with our current and fits rooney especially well (allowing him to play his natural game in his natural position). Berba also has Prem experience which is way more valuable in terms of carrying on where we left off last season. Hunterlaar is your Van Nistelrooy striker which doesent really fit our current team (Think back when Van played how static our play was - too one dimensional). Plus we have a another Target man in Manucho, who also offers something different - which renders Hunterlaar obsolete.

You should really think before you speak, cause you end up making alot of unfounded comments - especially doubting the decision of Fergie to purchase Berba

 

[dbecks]

I just wish SAF didn’t waste all that cash on berba. if only he invested a third of that money on a classy right back, and maybe another striker (e.g. huntelaar) things would not look so gloomy right now.

don't get me wrong, i know this is just the beginning of the season and we (Man. U) is gonna be tops real soon, but i still believe berba was a bad buy, and his presence is not really going to be beneficial to rooney

Do you even know what you are saying - or just a glory hunter that knows nothing about Football. First point - we dont need another right back, as we are well endowed in that department (Brown, Da silva, Simpson and even Neville at times). Buying another right back would be a waste of cash.

Second point - Read my previous post regarding Berba vs Hunterlaar.

Third point - How is Berba a bad buy? You obviously missed the fact that Berba (who had no real preseason with Spurs, then left out in the Prem, then is thrown into two of the toughest away games to start his United career) was heavily involved in the two goals scored against Liverfool and Chelski. Dennis Berkamp took nine games to score his first goal for arsenal and we all know how that turned out. Another case in point = Last nights game.

Fourth point - Have you even seen what an Impact Berba has had on Rooney (Bolton game = case in Point). Rooney is now playing where is plays best and is finding form thanks to Berba taking the responsibility of the central striker.
Another case in point = Last nights game.

Final Point - How is things gloomy now? We have more points in the Prem then we had last season and we top our Uefa Group...
And why do you make confounding statements like " and maybe another striker (e.g. huntelaar) things would not look so gloomy right now" - then in the same breath - "don't get me wrong, i know this is just the beginning of the season and we (Man. U) is gonna be tops real soon".

 

[The_Traveller]

Ronaldo relieved for Berbatov
Glad Ronaldo is trying to motivate Berbs to open up, he (berbs) is showing too much of introvert behaviour.

Also,Ferguson wasnt too thrilled with the finishing, but im glad he mentioned it cos if i (or we) had to mention it, a certain newbie would flame us

 

[hj2k_x]

Ronaldo relieved for Berbatov
Glad Ronaldo is trying to motivate Berbs to open up, he (berbs) is showing too much of introvert behaviour.

Also,Ferguson wasnt too thrilled with the finishing, but im glad he mentioned it cos if i (or we) had to mention it, a certain newbie would flame us

And Rooney scoring for the second game running He looks much better playing with BBT in the side.

 

[gnomez]

Good points Dbecks, but...

1.neville is NOT the player he used to be since coming back from all the injuries
- simpson is out on loan, and cant even hold on to a first team place at blackburn
- brown is an average right back, he has his days of glory, but i surely dont consider him world class.
- yes, Rafael is showing to be a very good right back, and eventual replacement for neville and brown. he's certainly playing better than brown at the moment. but i think he's young and needs allot more experience before he's gonna hold down that first choice RB position.

2.i dont get your comment about huntelaar being a van nistelrooy striker and would not fit in ?? And since when was Premiership experience the no.1 requirment ?? was it when SAF chased van nistelrooy to join man u. ? and when did van nistelrooy not fit in the team ? was it when he won the PFA players' player of the year award after his first season at Man U. ? or was it during the 03/04 season when he scored a team record of 44 goals ? huntelaar is also a classy striker, and yes much the same type of player as van nistelrooy, which i think would have been a better buy than berba (personal opinion, again)

3.berba is a classy striker, and a simple man u. sopporter like me could never ever judge SAF's decision to buy him, but surely im allowed to express my own personal view on any player or transfer, as does everyone else. and i still dont think he's the sollution for Man. U

4.i dont for a second believe rooney's current 'form' is due to the "Impact Berba has had on Rooney" SAF was playing rooney out of position last season, which was a tactic that didnt pay any dividends. Now that Man U has another striker (berba) rooney has been slotted back into his prefered position, and as expected he's delivering again.

 

[The_Traveller]

Good points Dbecks, but...

1.neville is NOT the player he used to be since coming back from all the injuries
- simpson is out on loan, and cant even hold on to a first team place at blackburn
- brown is an average right back, he has his days of glory, but i surely dont consider him world class.
- yes, Rafael is showing to be a very good right back, and eventual replacement for neville and brown. he's certainly playing better than brown at the moment. but i think he's young and needs allot more experience before he's gonna hold down that first choice RB position.

2.i dont get your comment about huntelaar being a van nistelrooy striker and would not fit in ?? And since when was Premiership experience the no.1 requirment ?? was it when SAF chased van nistelrooy to join man u. ? and when did van nistelrooy not fit in the team ? was it when he won the PFA players' player of the year award after his first season at Man U. ? or was it during the 03/04 season when he scored a team record of 44 goals ? huntelaar is also a classy striker, and yes much the same type of player as van nistelrooy, which i think would have been a better buy than berba (personal opinion, again)

3.berba is a classy striker, and a simple man u. sopporter like me could never ever judge SAF's decision to buy him, but surely im allowed to express my own personal view on any player or transfer, as does everyone else. and i still dont think he's the sollution for Man. U

4.i dont for a second believe rooney's current 'form' is due to the "Impact Berba has had on Rooney" SAF was playing rooney out of position last season, which was a tactic that didnt pay any dividends. Now that Man U has another striker (berba) rooney has been slotted back into his prefered position, and as expected he's delivering again.

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Just to add on the Huntelaar point, IMO he is 10x better than what Van Nistelrooy was at the time ,and he is only 23 (or 24?).

 

[dbecks]

Good points Dbecks, but...

1.neville is NOT the player he used to be since coming back from all the injuries
- simpson is out on loan, and cant even hold on to a first team place at blackburn
- brown is an average right back, he has his days of glory, but i surely dont consider him world class.
- yes, Rafael is showing to be a very good right back, and eventual replacement for neville and brown. he's certainly playing better than brown at the moment. but i think he's young and needs allot more experience before he's gonna hold down that first choice RB position.

2.i dont get your comment about huntelaar being a van nistelrooy striker and would not fit in ?? And since when was Premiership experience the no.1 requirment ?? was it when SAF chased van nistelrooy to join man u. ? and when did van nistelrooy not fit in the team ? was it when he won the PFA players' player of the year award after his first season at Man U. ? or was it during the 03/04 season when he scored a team record of 44 goals ? huntelaar is also a classy striker, and yes much the same type of player as van nistelrooy, which i think would have been a better buy than berba (personal opinion, again)

3.berba is a classy striker, and a simple man u. sopporter like me could never ever judge SAF's decision to buy him, but surely im allowed to express my own personal view on any player or transfer, as does everyone else. and i still dont think he's the sollution for Man. U

4.i dont for a second believe rooney's current 'form' is due to the "Impact Berba has had on Rooney" SAF was playing rooney out of position last season, which was a tactic that didnt pay any dividends. Now that Man U has another striker (berba) rooney has been slotted back into his prefered position, and as expected he's delivering again.

-Our average RB (Brown) was part of the meanest defense that won the Prem and CL..so I don't mind having that kind of average in our side.

-Simpson is out on loan to gain experience (that's the whole point). holding down a first team place may or may not come, but more importantly, he will get a chance to play.

- I never doubted the quality of Van, he is undoubtedly a legend - but our style of football has changed since then.

- I think you answered yourself in point 4 (I highligthed it for you)

 

[dbecks]

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Just to add on the Huntelaar point, IMO he is 10x better than what Van Nistelrooy was at the time ,and he is only 23 (or 24?).

Well in my short time here, I have come to expect that sort of elaborate argument from you

Well, if i'm going to debate with you, I might as well do it on your level:

"IMO, Berba is 20x better than Hunterlaar"

 

[Genius.]

@ dbecks - welcome to the forum. The meaning of forum is to share views and opinons. Thats the beauty of it. So please share your views, i will disagree with you if i dont share the same view. Thats what a forum is about isnt it?

So dont act like the rest of the bandwagon crew here and start insulting users, also the trend with Untied supporters here is that if you dont agree with them they will report u to admin

Enjoy the forum.

 

[gnomez]

-Our average RB (Brown) was part of the meanest defense that won the Prem and CL..so I don't mind having that kind of average in our side.

-Simpson is out on loan to gain experience (that's the whole point). holding down a first team place may or may not come, but more importantly, he will get a chance to play.

- I never doubted the quality of Van, he is undoubtedly a legend - but our style of football has changed since then.

- I think you answered yourself in point 4 (I highligthed it for you)

In #4 i was merely trying to point to the obvious that if rooney was played in his usual position, instead of 'all over the place' he would have played allot better last season.

 

[Genius.]

I kinda blame Rooney in some matches for playing all over the place. Most matches he runs from the front to the back to defend like a defender. Im like WTF

Then people blame SAF for playing him out of position. What the hell is he always doing defending and in the midfield?

 

[gnomez]

@ dbecks - welcome to the forum. The meaning of forum is to share views and opinons. Thats the beauty of it. So please share your views, i will disagree with you if i dont share the same view. Thats what a forum is about isnt it?

So dont act like the rest of the bandwagon crew here and start insulting users, also the trend with Untied supporters here is that if you dont agree with them they will report u to admin

Enjoy the forum.

not true !!! Man U. supportes are the best type around !!! we're just very Territorial

 

[SuPaStA]

I kinda blame Rooney in some matches for playing all over the place. Most matches he runs from the front to the back to defend like a defender. Im like WTF

Then people blame SAF for playing him out of position. What the hell is he always doing defending and in the midfield?

He does the exact thing for the national side, hence people want him out and replaced with someone who can score goals.

 

[gnomez]

I kinda blame Rooney in some matches for playing all over the place. Most matches he runs from the front to the back to defend like a defender. Im like WTF

Then people blame SAF for playing him out of position. What the hell is he always doing defending and in the midfield?

Some truth in there.. apparently capello and SAF has been talking to him about this. but it was SAF who initially asked him to play a more supporting role and out wide in midfield.

 

[Genius.]

not true !!! Man U. supportes are the best type around !!! we're just very Territorial

I am here to have a good convo and debate with people who know football. Sadly there are alot of bandwagon jumpers and sadly United gets a bad rep cos they normally jumped onto that bandwagon.

 

[Genius.]

Some truth in there.. apparently capello and SAF has been talking to him about this. but it was SAF who initially asked him to play a more supporting role and out wide in midfield.

SAF is a MASTER coach, we all know that. But i think rooney must take osme of the blame. He persists to play HIMSELF out of position. I remver when England played, he was stuck in the midfield and i was thinking WTF is he doing in the midfield. When the macth started it was clear that Capello wanted him up front.

 

[gnomez]

SAF is a MASTER coach, we all know that. But i think rooney must take osme of the blame. He persists to play HIMSELF out of position. I remver when England played, he was stuck in the midfield and i was thinking WTF is he doing in the midfield. When the macth started it was clear that Capello wanted him up front.

do you think he (rooney) will benefit/learn from berba's presence ?