The Man United Thread

[icyrus]

How the hell does a keeper get accused of deliberate handball?

I imagine you can find a rulebook.

Or perhaps that is giving you too much credit.

 

[Genius.]

I imagine you can find a rulebook.

Or perhaps that is giving you too much credit.

I dont know what world you live in where keepers cannot handle the ball in the box. Laughing my ass off at you trying to justify why a goalkeeper cannot handle a ball in the box.

Please continue.

 

[icyrus]

I dont know what world you live in where keepers cannot handle the ball in the box. Laughing my ass off at you trying to justify why a goalkeeper cannot handle a ball in the box.

Please continue.

Deliberate backpass, one must wonder if the rules are really that different in Spain... or maybe there is another explanation.

 

[Genius.]

Deliberate backpass, one must wonder if the rules are really that different in Spain... or maybe there is another explanation.

OH YES!!!! You are right, that deserves a red card cos he stopped a goal.

bwhahaha

Do me a favour and lick your lips.






Now taste that sh*t you are talking.

 

[icyrus]

OH YES!!!! You are right, that deserves a red card cos he stopped a goal.

bwhahaha

Do me a favour and lick your lips.

Now taste that sh*t you are talking.

Do try to act like an adult, then answer the following:

Was handling the ball in the situation against the rules?
Did handling the ball prevent a goal scoring opportunity?

And then ask the same questions about the Scholes sending off.

Difference?

This is merely theoretical as I haven't seen the incident just going on what I have been told. Regardless, I've seen the exact situation happen before with the same results.

 

[Genius.]

How long have you been watching football? Honestly?

It is not a red card offence. Scholes is a outfield player, he is not a goalkeeper.

 

[icyrus]

How long have you been watching football? Honestly?

It is not a red card offence. Scholes is a outfield player, he is not a goalkeeper.

So you chose not to answer the actual questions?

Lets try be more simple, just one question this time:

Was handling the ball in those circumstances against the rules or not?

 

[Genius.]

So you chose not to answer the actual questions?

Lets try be more simple, just one question this time:

Was handling the ball in those circumstances against the rules or not?

uhm, i take it that you must be new to this sport.

Let me try another approach.

To answer your question, yes it was against the rules. Was it a red card offence?

No

Was it EVER a red card offence? No

In previous games when the goalkeeper commited the same foul, was there ever an instance where a red card was shown?

No

You need to broaden your outlook and learn the rules of the game. Believe it or not, there is actually football played in other parts of the world outisde of Manchester.

 

[The_Traveller]

OH YES!!!! You are right, that deserves a red card cos he stopped a goal.

bwhahaha

Do me a favour and lick your lips.






Now taste that sh*t you are talking.

Someone here said the exact same thing a while back, can anyone guess who it 'is' ?

 

[Stickfigure]

Oh lol. I never watched the match so went on to youtube and found the first highlight video that worked. I was like "wtf a free kick inside the penalty box " That video never showed the backpass.

Shouldn't it have been a penalty???

 

[icyrus]

uhm, i take it that you must be new to this sport.

Let me try another approach.

To answer your question, yes it was against the rules. Was it a red card offence?

No

Was it EVER a red card offence? No

In previous games when the goalkeeper commited the same foul, was there ever an instance where a red card was shown?

No

You need to broaden your outlook and learn the rules of the game. Believe it or not, there is actually football played in other parts of the world outisde of Manchester.

Feel free to peruse law 12 as published by FIFA. As to precedence, how could I possibly say?

On your part I would love to know why you feel the rule doesn't apply to a deliberate handball by a goalkeeper.

 

[icyrus]

Oh lol. I never watched the match so went on to youtube and found the first highlight video that worked. I was like "wtf a free kick inside the penalty box " That video never showed the backpass.

Shouldn't it have been a penalty???

Handling a backpass is always an indirect freekick.

 

[SuPaStA]

FFS you can see people in here have only started watching football recently.A backpass has always been an in-direct freekick, even under 10 football players know it.

I still remember the match which I think made them change the law, argentina v west germany 1990 world cup final.

 

[Genius.]

FFS you can see people in here have only started watching football recently.A backpass has always been an in-direct freekick, even under 10 football players know it.

I still remember the match which I think made them change the law, argentina v west germany 1990 world cup final.

Ya exactly. Then you get people like icyrus who believes that the goalkeeper must be sent off.

LoL

 

[dbecks]

For collecting the back pass or what?

Yep! I mean it is illegal to collect the back pass with your hands (as a goalkeeper) which resulted in a free kick. Goal keeper or not, he was not allowed to handle the ball for the back pass but did so to stop the goal. There is no difference from that and an outfield player committing a foul (handball) to stop a certain goal.

You tried icyrus

 

[poolmania]

uhm, i take it that you must be new to this sport.

Let me try another approach.

To answer your question, yes it was against the rules. Was it a red card offence?

No

Was it EVER a red card offence? No

In previous games when the goalkeeper commited the same foul, was there ever an instance where a red card was shown?

No

You need to broaden your outlook and learn the rules of the game. Believe it or not, there is actually football played in other parts of the world outisde of Manchester.

Genius is correct. I wouldn't of put it in the way he did it but he is right. According to the rules, a deliberate backpass that is held or touched by the keeper is a freekick in the box, not a penalty and not a red card offence. Simple.

 

[guru_pitka]

Child, if you are not going to even bother answering the direct questions posed to you perhaps you should shut the **** up?

All you are doing is making yourself look like an even bigger idiot, if such a thing is possible.

woosa my brother woosa

 

[dbecks]

Genius is correct. I wouldn't of put it in the way he did it but he is right. According to the rules, a deliberate backpass that is held or touched by the keeper is a freekick in the box, not a penalty and not a red card offence. Simple.

Yes that is correct. But the point we are arguing is What is the difference between what Friedel did (illegally handling a ball to stop a goal) and an outfield player (illegally handling a ball to stop a goal).

 

[icyrus]

Genius is correct. I wouldn't of put it in the way he did it but he is right. According to the rules, a deliberate backpass that is held or touched by the keeper is a freekick in the box, not a penalty and not a red card offence. Simple.

I never said it was a penalty but always an indirect free kick.

Please feel free to elaborate how this section of FIFA's laws does not apply:

There are two sending-off offences that deal with denying an opponent
an obvious opportunity to score a goal. It is not necessary for the offence
to occur inside the penalty area.
If the referee applies advantage during an obvious goal-scoring
opportunity and a goal is scored directly, despite the opponent’s
handling the ball or fouling an opponent, the player cannot be sent
off but he may still be cautioned.
Referees should consider the following circumstances when deciding
whether to send off a player for denying a goal or an obvious goal-
scoring opportunity:
• the distance between the offence and the goal
• the likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
• the direction of the play
• the location and number of defenders
• the offence which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring
opportunity may be an offence that incurs a direct free kick or an
indirect free kick

Directly from the laws. Please explain.

 

[Genius.]

FFS icyrus needs to learn the damn rules of football!

The difference is that it is a damn GOALKEEPER!!!!!! He is allowed to pick the ball up, a outfield player is not allowed at any point of the game to handle the ball.

It was never ever a red card offence.

But wait, im writing a letter to FIFA on your behalf to see if they can change the rules. Who knows, maybe in 2010 when a player passes the ball back to the keeper and he picks it up - that keeper will be sent off.

Again - learn the rules before you post. Football isnt that hard to understand.