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Right. Constant restart corrupted some files apparently. Decided to pull the plug after I couldn't even boot into Windows anymore because I kept getting this:

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Pop in the Win 10 installation USB, set it to boot, go through the first installation bit, including formatting my primary drive. Files copy, etc, and it automatically restarts as expected. Should now carry on with the installation, but the recovery message above pops up instead. F1 doesn't go to the recovery menu, but reboots and goes back to the same screen. There doesn't appear to be any way around it at this point, because I can't figure out where the hell it's trying to find this file that technically shouldn't even exist because the drive has been wiped. And I've been through the same steps about 6 times now.

To say that I'm frustrated at this point is an understatement. I'm currently trying to figure out just how far I can yeet this ****ing thing.
 
Back to the drawing board!

RAM tests OK (8GB x 4 DDR4 3600Mhz
New CPU (5600x).
Almost 12k on Cinebench.
Prime95 holds steady at 95C @ 4.7Ghz.
Time Spy and Heaven no sweat.
COD BO still smooth as butter @ 1440p 165hz.
Fresh install of Windows.
All the latest drivers.

But, God forbid, I alt-tab to check something on YouTube, or just open Excel, and it suddenly restarts with a Kernel error (ambiguous because I didn't shut down properly - DUH!), or a WHEA error. It ONLY appears to happen at low load or when I'm idle. As stated before I've thrashed the hell out of the CPU, GPU and RAM. But as soon as I try do something that doesn't require a lot of juice, it reboots.

I've disabled CPB and PBO, C-state, XMP, set SOC to 1.1, load optimised defaults. But it keeps happening.

The only things I haven't been able to swap out are the mobo and PSU. It definitely seems like it may be one of them as it feels like something isn't getting enough juice at idle, so it trips.

Note that this appears to be a common problem with the 5600x, 5800x and even the 5950x on both B550 and X570 boards, with different RAM configurations (trust me, I've done nothing but Google the hell out of this over the last few days). Even seen a few 3600x users asking for help.

This only started happening about 3 weeks ago. Once a day, then the frequency increased to multiple times a day. Always if I alt-tab when in game, or am just browsing. Prior to that, no issues at all.

Any ideas?
 
So I seem to have cleared the WHEA errors (touch wood). Turns out the NIC driver from Gigabyte was trash. Let Windows find one, and now that at least seems stable.

Just the Kernel Power 41 errors persisting now. Had 12 random restarts yesterday (majority from me trying to make adjustments and then triggering it on purpose). Latest adjustment is everything on stock, but Curve Optimizer set to +8 on all cores (still rebooted at +5), and VSOC at 1.1. I also went ahead and ran an extra PCIe cable from the PSU to my GPU (it's a 6+8) instead of daisying off one cable, just in case (but it restarted later on, so it has nothing to do with GPU power delivery).

Most common trigger is if I ALT-TAB when in COD BO, open Opera and start typing in the search bar. Other times just watching something on YouTube. My thinking is that going from using a lot of resources to using very little in a short space of time does something to voltage so the PC freaks out and restarts itself.

Really can't figure out what could be doing it, though. Like I've said, it's been fine for months.
 
Gtx Gaming said:
Yeah but do you really want cpu run at 95C

I undervolt my 3900x to 1.275v and run it at 4,25ghz, shaved 10c off the temps.
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Hahaha no of course not. That's just to show that it didn't **** itself when I klapped it in Prime95. If it was a CPU issue, I assume it wouldn't be able to do that.
 
Forgot to add I also ran Memtest86 for 4hrs yesterday with 0 errors. So not the RAM, either. But kept digging on potential RAM issues, and learnt something new: my mobo has a daisy chain topology for the RAM, so works best with on 2 DIMMs. I'm running 4, so removed 2, but that didn't solve my problem either.
 
Guys, is it worth it going for a 1600 AF build at the moment? Looking for a replacement for my SO's old intel setup that has kicked the bucket.

All parts would just be from woot, so the 1600AF, ASRock B450M Steel Legend, and G.Skill F4-3600C18D-16GVK Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600MHz ( does that this setup even benefit from the higher ram frequency?) Not looking to shell out too much tbh but looking for a decent replacement comparable to the old 4770k /16gb DDR3 2133mhz setup.

Basically just has to be mATX or smaller
 
animehero said:
Guys, is it worth it going for a 1600 AF build at the moment? Looking for a replacement for my SO's old intel setup that has kicked the bucket.

All parts would just be from woot, so the 1600AF, ASRock B450M Steel Legend, and G.Skill F4-3600C18D-16GVK Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600MHz ( does that this setup even benefit from the higher ram frequency?) Not looking to shell out too much tbh but looking for a decent replacement comparable to the old 4770k /16gb DDR3 2133mhz setup.

Basically just has to be mATX or smaller
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I bought almost the same parts last year, just a different motherboard. CPU price was lower then, but it is still R1k cheaper than the 3600. I could only get my RAM to run at 3200 MHz, tried setting values with the calculator but couldn't get it working. Default BIOS profile for 3200 MHz worked fine. If you buy 3200 MHz RAM there is a possibility you won't get it to run at that speed as well, and the price difference was negligible. Ryzen performs better from faster RAM from what I have read.
 
The Voice said:
So I seem to have cleared the WHEA errors (touch wood). Turns out the NIC driver from Gigabyte was trash. Let Windows find one, and now that at least seems stable.

Just the Kernel Power 41 errors persisting now. Had 12 random restarts yesterday (majority from me trying to make adjustments and then triggering it on purpose). Latest adjustment is everything on stock, but Curve Optimizer set to +8 on all cores (still rebooted at +5), and VSOC at 1.1. I also went ahead and ran an extra PCIe cable from the PSU to my GPU (it's a 6+8) instead of daisying off one cable, just in case (but it restarted later on, so it has nothing to do with GPU power delivery).

Most common trigger is if I ALT-TAB when in COD BO, open Opera and start typing in the search bar. Other times just watching something on YouTube. My thinking is that going from using a lot of resources to using very little in a short space of time does something to voltage so the PC freaks out and restarts itself.

Really can't figure out what could be doing it, though. Like I've said, it's been fine for months.
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From what my 1 minute googling tells me, it is not necessarily a power issue.
Have you tried uninstalling all motherboard drivers or updating them?

From your repro steps, it sounds like the CPU, GPU, memory, hdd and network are all used at that time. Although all of those are also used when starting a multiplayer game. So really strange.

What if you open a bunch of tabs in opera, then launch your game, and then alt tab out and select one of those tabs?
Have you tried other browsers?
 
furpile said:
I bought almost the same parts last year, just a different motherboard. CPU price was lower then, but it is still R1k cheaper than the 3600. I could only get my RAM to run at 3200 MHz, tried setting values with the calculator but couldn't get it working. Default BIOS profile for 3200 MHz worked fine. If you buy 3200 MHz RAM there is a possibility you won't get it to run at that speed as well, and the price difference was negligible. Ryzen performs better from faster RAM from what I have read.
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Okay cool thanks man, re: ram speeds, are you saying it would be better to go for the higher speed even if it doesnt run higher than 3200MHz?
 
Barbarian Conan said:
From what my 1 minute googling tells me, it is not necessarily a power issue.
Have you tried uninstalling all motherboard drivers or updating them?

From your repro steps, it sounds like the CPU, GPU, memory, hdd and network are all used at that time. Although all of those are also used when starting a multiplayer game. So really strange.

What if you open a bunch of tabs in opera, then launch your game, and then alt tab out and select one of those tabs?
Have you tried other browsers?
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Got the chipset drivers directly from AMD, so I've been down the driver route already (usually my first step).

Haven't thought to try a different browser, but surely it couldn't be the cause?

Edit: and yeah, Kernel Power 41 is just the ambiguous error message that tells you that the PC restarted unexpectedly. Everything else I've tried so far are "fixes" related to it that other people have tried. Sadly, no dice. :(
 
The Voice said:
Got the chipset drivers directly from AMD, so I've been down the driver route already (usually my first step).

Haven't thought to try a different browser, but surely it couldn't be the cause?

Edit: and yeah, Kernel Power 41 is just the ambiguous error message that tells you that the PC restarted unexpectedly. Everything else I've tried so far are "fixes" related to it that other people have tried. Sadly, no dice. :(
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I would be very surprised and confused if it was, but I would try it nonetheless.
I also assume you've updated the bios by now.

That leaves the physical motherboard...
Unless it's a specific PSU component, like the part that supplies the motherboard that's faulty. That sounds really unlikely though.

Try disabling as many MB features as you can and see if it helps?

Get load numbers for CPU, GPU, RAM, VRAM etc when running COD, then try to match or exceed them all at the same time with another game when trying the same steps.

Try full screen vs windowed vs windowed full screen.
 
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