cr@zydude
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Money bro. SSDs cost cash.
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Money bro. SSDs cost cash.
SSD Is so cheap nowadays if you can't afford a SSD then you can't afford to buy anything else for your pc. I a SSD is a must for any pc and laptop these days
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friedpiggy
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So about to order and thought I would ask for advice first. Is this an ok set of components to order.
1-G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Black Desktop Memory x2 to give 32gb ram
2-Phanteks PH-EC400ATG_DBK01 Eclipse P400A Digital RGB Tempered Glass Satin Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Desktop Chassis
3-Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS AMD X570 Ryzen Socket AM4 ATX Desktop Motherboard
4-Fractal Design FD-PSU-IONP-560P-BK Ion+ 560W 80 Plus Platinum Certified Fully Modular Desktop Power Supply
5-AMD 100-100000252BOX Ryzen 5 5600G Hexa Core 3.9GHz (4.4GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop APU
6-Mushkin MKNSSDHL500GB-D8 Helix-L 500GB M.2 (2280) PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
7-Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11ax Dual Band WIFI + Bluetooth 5.0 PCI-E Adapter
I dont play any hectic games (mainly Guild Wars 2 / Elder Scrolls Online) so the gpu isn't that important to me and the 5600g apu is nice and cheap for what you get. I can always add a decent gpu at a later stage once they dont cost an arm, leg and kidney. The wifi adapter is because my desk is on the second floor and the ONT/router is downstairs so wifi is the only way to get internet access on my system without running a VERY long cable due to the layout of my house and the path the cable would need to follow to not be fugly.
I have left the stock cooler in place as I also have 2x140m (top)and 1x120mm (rear)case fans on my list to help with ventilation/airflow
1-G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Black Desktop Memory x2 to give 32gb ram
2-Phanteks PH-EC400ATG_DBK01 Eclipse P400A Digital RGB Tempered Glass Satin Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Desktop Chassis
3-Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS AMD X570 Ryzen Socket AM4 ATX Desktop Motherboard
4-Fractal Design FD-PSU-IONP-560P-BK Ion+ 560W 80 Plus Platinum Certified Fully Modular Desktop Power Supply
5-AMD 100-100000252BOX Ryzen 5 5600G Hexa Core 3.9GHz (4.4GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop APU
6-Mushkin MKNSSDHL500GB-D8 Helix-L 500GB M.2 (2280) PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
7-Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11ax Dual Band WIFI + Bluetooth 5.0 PCI-E Adapter
I dont play any hectic games (mainly Guild Wars 2 / Elder Scrolls Online) so the gpu isn't that important to me and the 5600g apu is nice and cheap for what you get. I can always add a decent gpu at a later stage once they dont cost an arm, leg and kidney. The wifi adapter is because my desk is on the second floor and the ONT/router is downstairs so wifi is the only way to get internet access on my system without running a VERY long cable due to the layout of my house and the path the cable would need to follow to not be fugly.
I have left the stock cooler in place as I also have 2x140m (top)and 1x120mm (rear)case fans on my list to help with ventilation/airflow
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furpile
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friedpiggy
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The X570 is going for R2800 for a full ATX mobo which is cheaper than all but 2 of the ATX sized B550 boards on Wootware. That's why I went for that one
3. B550 will be fine
4. You don't need platinum efficiency rating, rather go for a higher wattage silver/gold 650/750W Superflower for the same price as it will give you better future upgrade path.
6. Check if that SSD has cache ram, there are different models and one does not have cache if I'm not mistaken.
The P400A comes with 3 fans in front, so in total you're looking at 7 fans (CPU included). The board has 6 fan headers in total, so you could either grab a Y-splitter to give the additional, or get a couple of these.
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That will tidy up the interior of the case and keep things pretty, as well as make it far easier to route cables.
Also, I'd get a slightly beefier PSU so when you upgrade your GPU you have some headroom. A 650W Gold would be better. I've got the 650W Gold SuperFlower and it's working beautifully.
Barbarian Conan
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IIRC Helix is DRAM-less. The slightly more expensive Pilot line has DRAM. I'm very happy with mine.
And wow, motherboards got affordable!
friedpiggy
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After suggestions, I have changed mobo, psu and ssd to now end with the following. I also changed the ram to being 2x16 instead of 4x8
1-G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVK Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Black Desktop Memory
2-Phanteks PH-EC400ATG_DBK01 Eclipse P400A Digital RGB Tempered Glass Satin Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Desktop Chassis
3-ASRock B550M-HDV AMD B550 Ryzen Socket AM4 Micro-ATX Desktop Motherboard
4-Super Flower SF-650F14HG(BK) Leadex III Gold 650W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular Black Desktop Power Supply
5-AMD 100-100000252BOX Ryzen 5 5600G Hexa Core 3.9GHz (4.4GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop APU
6-Samsung MZ-V7S500BW 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVMe M.2 2280 PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drive
7-Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11ax Dual Band WIFI + Bluetooth 5.0 PCI-E Adapter
This oddly works out to be around R700 cheaper than the previous configuration
Did not even think of fan connectors. new board says it has 2 chassis fan connectors so guess I am going to need to work that out now.
1-G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVK Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Black Desktop Memory
2-Phanteks PH-EC400ATG_DBK01 Eclipse P400A Digital RGB Tempered Glass Satin Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Desktop Chassis
3-ASRock B550M-HDV AMD B550 Ryzen Socket AM4 Micro-ATX Desktop Motherboard
4-Super Flower SF-650F14HG(BK) Leadex III Gold 650W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular Black Desktop Power Supply
5-AMD 100-100000252BOX Ryzen 5 5600G Hexa Core 3.9GHz (4.4GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop APU
6-Samsung MZ-V7S500BW 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVMe M.2 2280 PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drive
7-Gigabyte GC-WBAX200 802.11ax Dual Band WIFI + Bluetooth 5.0 PCI-E Adapter
This oddly works out to be around R700 cheaper than the previous configuration
Did not even think of fan connectors. new board says it has 2 chassis fan connectors so guess I am going to need to work that out now.
Good build.
No working out needed, just buy 2 of the item I linked on Takealot, that will give you 8 fan headers in total - perfect.
friedpiggy
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Many thanks. Sorry for the multitude of questions, but it's been a heck of a long time since I last built a rig. Roughly 16+ years or so. The last one I built had a Pentium 4 with hyper-threading CPU.
No problem dude, that's why this thread exists.
friedpiggy
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Quick question on the fan hub though. If I grab 2 of those, have the three front fans on one and the two top and 1 rear on the other, would that mean anything for the fan ports on the board or not? My knowledge of electricity is rudimentary at the best of times.
So basically, the have a cable that connects to the fan header on the motherboard (you have 2). It then splits that into 4, so you essentially get 4 fans connected on the one fan header.
friedpiggy
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Yes, but you now have 4 fans drawing from a header designed for 1 fan, does it not overload the header? Like I said, my knowledge of electricity is minimal, but I would assume if you have 4x 1 amp fans connected to a 1 amp header that each fan would only be able to draw 0.25 amps or something like that meaning each fan is running at 25% of max. Or have I got this all wrong again?
Your logic is sound, but it isn't an issue in this case.
I'm currently running 4 fans through the same unit - no issues at all. The fans spin up to their rated speeds and cool as expected.
In total you have 6 system fans you need to power, as the CPU has it's own dedicated header. So you could just put 3 on each splitter if you're concerned about it.
friedpiggy
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Many thanks again. I am also fairly positive it wouldn't be a product if it was an issue.
EDIT - For anyone else who has this question the answer is that it is not an issue. Fan headers supply 1 amp of power and case fans are in the 0.15 - 0.25 amp range so plugging 3-4 into a splitter is not going to overload the header
EDIT - For anyone else who has this question the answer is that it is not an issue. Fan headers supply 1 amp of power and case fans are in the 0.15 - 0.25 amp range so plugging 3-4 into a splitter is not going to overload the header
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Well I'm not sure about that, there are some super sketchy products. But Deepcool is a known brand and I have anecdotal evidence from 3 people (myself included) that they work as expected so you should be fine.
Nice build. I'd happily buy a build like this.
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