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Many thanks again. I am also fairly positive it wouldn't be a product if it was an issue.

EDIT - For anyone else who has this question the answer is that it is not an issue. Fan headers supply 1 amp of power and case fans are in the 0.15 - 0.25 amp range so plugging 3-4 into a splitter is not going to overload the header
Didn't see your edit - thanks for this.
 
Now I know you lot are getting annoyed with me, but, would I not be better served by changing the mobo from this

to this


The gaming 4 has 2 extra dimm slots, built in wifi module and a second M.2 slot allowing for far more upgradeability in the future. Not sure I like the wires from the wifi adaptor but meh I can live with it.
 
Now I know you lot are getting annoyed with me, but, would I not be better served by changing the mobo from this

to this


The gaming 4 has 2 extra dimm slots, built in wifi module and a second M.2 slot allowing for far more upgradeability in the future. Not sure I like the wires from the wifi adaptor but meh I can live with it.
If your budget allows for it then yes, it is a better motherboard.
 
Now I know you lot are getting annoyed with me, but, would I not be better served by changing the mobo from this

to this


The gaming 4 has 2 extra dimm slots, built in wifi module and a second M.2 slot allowing for far more upgradeability in the future. Not sure I like the wires from the wifi adaptor but meh I can live with it.
It's a fine board for most Ryzen CPUs - the 12 core and up can draw enough power to cause some VRM throttling when maxxed out but that's to be expected at this price point (basically, shouldn't be an issue).
 
Info - handy resource that compiles the component layout of motherboards into an easy to read spreadsheet. You can find other versions for other chipsets on the same forum.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

Comes in handy if you see a review or benchmark of a specific model but not of the actual motherboard you're looking at - you can compare what's under the hood and make some conclusions.
 
Now I know you lot are getting annoyed with me, but, would I not be better served by changing the mobo from this

to this


The gaming 4 has 2 extra dimm slots, built in wifi module and a second M.2 slot allowing for far more upgradeability in the future. Not sure I like the wires from the wifi adaptor but meh I can live with it.
Just check the M2 slots. It looks like one of them has the wifi adapter in it and it is an older form factor. So not sure if you can use that for storage later on?

1x M.2 Socket (Key E) with the bundled WiFi-802.11ac PCIe WiFi module
1x Hyper M.2 Socket (M2_1), supports M Key type 2260/2280/22110
 
Just check the M2 slots. It looks like one of them has the wifi adapter in it and it is an older form factor. So not sure if you can use that for storage later on?
You are correct, wont be able to use that slot for anything else. It is still a better board according to the tier list above your post and has better upgradeability in the RAM slots as well as more fan headers, usb 3.0 ports etc.
 
You are correct, wont be able to use that slot for anything else. It is still a better board according to the tier list above your post and has better upgradeability in the RAM slots as well as more fan headers, usb 3.0 ports etc.

If you have time (lots of time) watch Buildzoid ramble on about motherboard options.

I don't see him actually discussing your options, but it may give you some insights.
 
Well I'm not sure about that, there are some super sketchy products. But Deepcool is a known brand and I have anecdotal evidence from 3 people (myself included) that they work as expected so you should be fine.
I've got 2 and both do what I need them to do. In 2 separate machines of course :)
 
"I also changed the ram to being 2x16 instead of 4x8"

Isn't 4x8 supposed to be better, more lanes to address the ram chips?

I saw a recent video about this on Linus's YouTube
 
Now I know you lot are getting annoyed with me, but, would I not be better served by changing the mobo from this

to this


The gaming 4 has 2 extra dimm slots, built in wifi module and a second M.2 slot allowing for far more upgradeability in the future. Not sure I like the wires from the wifi adaptor but meh I can live with it.

For R70 more I'd rather go with https://www.wootware.co.za/gigabyte...socket-am4-micro-atx-desktop-motherboard.html
 
Thank you again to everyone for their assistance. Very much appreciated, parts have been ordered and now just to wait on delivery and then the fun assembly/installation part begins
 
"I also changed the ram to being 2x16 instead of 4x8"

Isn't 4x8 supposed to be better, more lanes to address the ram chips?

I saw a recent video about this on Linus's YouTube
Careful, you'll need to make sure your mobo supports it, first. They're basically set up in 2 different ways if there are 4 DIMM slots: daisy chain or t topology (former likes 2 DIMMs, latter likes 4). Only really applies to overclocking, but bear in mind that if your RAM is anything faster than 2133Mhz, it's already overclocked.

It's something I stumbled across when trying to troubleshoot the massive headaches my machine was giving me about a month ago. Of course, it won't necessarily negatively impact your performance (I run 4x8 just fine, and my mobo is daisy chain, but trying to set timings too tight or change voltages crashes my machine), it's just better to run it according to the correct topology. Kind of like using 2xDIMM vs 1xDIMM for DDR.
 
"I also changed the ram to being 2x16 instead of 4x8"

Isn't 4x8 supposed to be better, more lanes to address the ram chips?

I saw a recent video about this on Linus's YouTube
The more physical modules are involved the more difficult it is to achieve overclocks. Recently learned this the hard way and had to return 4 x 16GB sticks and replace them with 2 X 32GB instead. Couldn't get anything stable over stock 2133 with the 4 sticks. Popped the new sticks in and it worked right away at 3200 without issue.

This is with both of these kits being on the QVL for my motherboard, but that doesn't guarantee that overclocks will work just that the memory will work at stock speeds.
 
Are there any good Sa based system builder websites that I can use to quickly get cost estimates and play around with configurations?
 
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