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livw88 said:
The 3060 Ti is much closer to the 3070 than the regular 3060 actually. It depends on what type of games you play and resolutions, but I think the sweet spot between the 3 (and to answer your question) would be the 3060 Ti. I'm also looking at getting one, but I'm waiting for the price to come down some more. The launch price (Jan 2021) for the 3060 Ti was around R10k - R11K so the 3060 should cost around the R7K - R8K range. Prices are coming down every 2 weeks and will continue (hopefully).

Some comparisons:
www.digitaltrends.com

Nvidia RTX 3060 vs. 3060 Ti vs. 3070

Nvidia's RTX 3060, 3060 Ti, and 3070 are great graphics cards under $500, but which should you pick? Here's what you need to know before picking up a new GPU.
www.digitaltrends.com www.digitaltrends.com

TLDR - I'd go with the RTX 3060 Ti, but it's your money :cool:
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Those videos with the side by side comparisons...you think the benchmarker actually has the cards? Do you think the fps has anything to do with my muscles in this place?
 
UrBaN963 said:
Userbenchmark is a farce of a website and should never be used. Seriously, no jokes. Linus and Steve even did videos regarding it.

Use actual video benchmarks or something, not that website.
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yes agree don't know why people use that site to compare results
 
I'm just wondering about a rule of thumb for overclocking a CPU... do I have it right that

1) crashing = not enough voltage
2) overheating = too much voltage

So if I'm at a point where going anywhere lower in voltage results in crashes and any higher results in overheating, then the next logical step is to try a lower CPU multiplier value?

I think I may have gotten unlucky with an i7 9700k. I managed to get it running fine @4.9GHZ for AIDA64 and Cinebench with temps sitting up to 85 degrees. However, I couldn't pass the Very High stress level for Intel Burn test without overheating.... I figured I was still ok with settling for that so lastly I tried running OCCT - but unfortunately it crashed quite quickly. I haven't gone to check the logs yet - but ultimately I think I may need to go down to 4.8GHz?
 
IOIIOOIO said:
I'm just wondering about a rule of thumb for overclocking a CPU... do I have it right that

1) crashing = not enough voltage
2) overheating = too much voltage

So if I'm at a point where going anywhere lower in voltage results in crashes and any higher results in overheating, then the next logical step is to try a lower CPU multiplier value?

I think I may have gotten unlucky with an i7 9700k. I managed to get it running fine @4.9GHZ for AIDA64 and Cinebench with temps sitting up to 85 degrees. However, I couldn't pass the Very High stress level for Intel Burn test without overheating.... I figured I was still ok with settling for that so lastly I tried running OCCT - but unfortunately it crashed quite quickly. I haven't gone to check the logs yet - but ultimately I think I may need to go down to 4.8GHz?
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Is it really worth the hassle to run on a knifes edge?

I'd just settle at 4.8ghz assuming that's stable.
 
IOIIOOIO said:
I'm just wondering about a rule of thumb for overclocking a CPU... do I have it right that

1) crashing = not enough voltage
2) overheating = too much voltage

So if I'm at a point where going anywhere lower in voltage results in crashes and any higher results in overheating, then the next logical step is to try a lower CPU multiplier value?

I think I may have gotten unlucky with an i7 9700k. I managed to get it running fine @4.9GHZ for AIDA64 and Cinebench with temps sitting up to 85 degrees. However, I couldn't pass the Very High stress level for Intel Burn test without overheating.... I figured I was still ok with settling for that so lastly I tried running OCCT - but unfortunately it crashed quite quickly. I haven't gone to check the logs yet - but ultimately I think I may need to go down to 4.8GHz?
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I'd be totally stoked with a stable 4.8ghz, that's blazing fast. An extra few percentage points above that is going to make just about zero difference.
 
airborne said:
I'd be totally stoked with a stable 4.8ghz, that's blazing fast. An extra few percentage points above that is going to make just about zero difference.
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Yeah I'm not too phased... just checking that I understand correctly about the overheating and crashing.

Interesting to note, I've often thought that CPU isn't going to make much diff in a game and that has held true for the most part.... but with VR (Half Life Alyx & No Mans Sky) I was having lags that didn't make sense. And looking at CPU usage you wouldn't think there was a bottle neck. Then I upgraded from an i5 9400F and 2666Mhz RAM to 3000Mhz... the difference is huge. Runs smooth as butter now. Apparently the "gpu is not waiting for frame data and is probably getting a better through put."
 
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IOIIOOIO said:
Yeah I'm not too phased... just checking that I understand correctly about the overheating and crashing.

Interesting to note, I've often thought that CPU isn't going to make much diff in a game and that has held true for the most part.... but with VR (Half Life Alyx & No Mans Sky) I was having lags that didn't make sense. And looking at CPU usage you wouldn't think there was a bottle neck. Then I upgraded from an i5 9400F and 2666Mhz RAM to 3000Mhz... the difference is huge. Runs smooth as butter now. Apparently the "gpu is not waiting for frame data and is probably getting a better through put."
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Dunno about NMS but HLA is a source engine game be it 1 or 2 and the engine is notoriously crap.

I really wish valve adopted a modern game engine utilizing the Vulkan api.
 
Hey all.

I'm looking to put together a PC to get back into the gaming space. I'm just looking to do 1080p @ 60fps on high-max and hoping it can last me the next 3 years or so. Hoping the more tech minded folks can help me out?

My budget is around 19k

Outside of that, any monitor recommendations?

Thanks.
 
SpleenPoker said:
Hey all.

I'm looking to put together a PC to get back into the gaming space. I'm just looking to do 1080p @ 60fps on high-max and hoping it can last me the next 3 years or so. Hoping the more tech minded folks can help me out?

My budget is around 19k

Outside of that, any monitor recommendations?

Thanks.
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With the current crazy prices for gpus that's not gonna happen. You need to lower your expectations or increase your budget. See post #7,624 which excludes a gpu.
 
SpleenPoker said:
Hey all.

I'm looking to put together a PC to get back into the gaming space. I'm just looking to do 1080p @ 60fps on high-max and hoping it can last me the next 3 years or so. Hoping the more tech minded folks can help me out?

My budget is around 19k

Outside of that, any monitor recommendations?

Thanks.
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That would've been a great budget just a year ago, but prices have sky rocketed. If you want gaming at 60fps 1080p for the next 3 years, get an Series S Xbox with Game pass
 
SpleenPoker said:
Hey all.

I'm looking to put together a PC to get back into the gaming space. I'm just looking to do 1080p @ 60fps on high-max and hoping it can last me the next 3 years or so. Hoping the more tech minded folks can help me out?

My budget is around 19k

Outside of that, any monitor recommendations?

Thanks.
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The response Starbound gave to your thread on SAGamer is about as good as it's going to get man. As stated there, take that build, possibly swap to a cheaper motherboard and smaller NVMe. Other than that, look on the secondhand market.
 
UrBaN963 said:
@SpleenPoker - this is from Wootware. If you shop around you might find slightly lower pricing, but this is generally the sort of PC you want to get.


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Might get more bang for the buck with:


Edit: bus on the nVidia card is higher, and it has more RAM, but the AMD boosts higher and uses less power. And also offers SAM.
 
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