The Personal Development & Financial Independence Thread

Until money is not a consideration in how you want to spend your time, I think this should always be true. Agree?
People value money differently, some want the "Lambo lifestyle" & some don't give a crap about that but want the "freedom" aspect.

The more you have the more doors & opportunities it opens & allows one to expand their interests or hobbies.
 
Until money is not a consideration in how you want to spend your time, I think this should always be true. Agree?
It’s a really important point among people who take saving and personal finance seriously. Many think they can save their way to wealth, by spending enormous effort on optimizing taxes, investments, and spending, all of which could be offset many fold if that effort was spent on getting a better job instead.

When you figure out your “got enough” limit, you can of course stop. My suggestion is to actually note those numbers, so that when you blow past them, you’re at least conscious of what you’re doing.
 
Honestly I question why I still sub to this person:


Poor English aside the financial advise given would make Capt Obvs proud.

I guess the only reason is the case studies of follow Saffas ie. how much they earn, how they spend and/or invest.
 
I spoke to a guy the other day. And he reckons he is a couple of years away from retirement. Nowhere near "retirement" age tho.
And it got me thinking htf can one put a number on your "retirement" pot?

You don't know how long you have left to live. The more you have accumulated, the better. Nobody knows what tomorrow brings.
It absolutely blows my mind when people say, "Ah, if I can just have 10 bar in the bank, then I am done working." While you still can try and make as much as you can.

People who work for one single company their whole life and get to retirement age and get offered R10bar for a pension is a different story. You know what you got and how to adapt your living style to make that R10bar last as long as possible.

I donno, maybe I am seeing it wrong.
 
I spoke to a guy the other day. And he reckons he is a couple of years away from retirement. Nowhere near "retirement" age tho.
And it got me thinking htf can one put a number on your "retirement" pot?

You don't know how long you have left to live. The more you have accumulated, the better. Nobody knows what tomorrow brings.
It absolutely blows my mind when people say, "Ah, if I can just have 10 bar in the bank, then I am done working." While you still can try and make as much as you can.

People who work for one single company their whole life and get to retirement age and get offered R10bar for a pension is a different story. You know what you got and how to adapt your living style to make that R10bar last as long as possible.

I donno, maybe I am seeing it wrong.
I think that people can put bounds on it. R10m at age 65 means, say living off R500k/y (in present terms), until 85. That may seem reasonable, but to play it safe, one would want say R1M for 35 years, so R35m, would probably be a reasonably safe number. 70 bar even more.

That said, things can go to hell in all sorts of interesting ways, so it really depends on your risk tolerance. There is no zero risk option, and the lowest risk option will always be to work until you no longer can, which you have to weight up against time lost working.
 
Great watch:

I find it funny that he never thought saying "the house he bought in 1938" sounded a bit odd. I mean Buffet would have been 7 or 8 back then (it was bought in 1958).

Another thing he never mentioned about why wealthy people choose to play things down, is that if you flaunt it you become a ****-magnet (I'll let you fill in what **** may mean). You're just going to meet better people in life if you don't flaunt your wealth. From relationships to friends, you're setting yourself up for disappointment if the reason they wanted to know you in the first place was because of your wealth. To be frank, one has enough issues with people who didn't know originally but now do.
 
Has anyone on here ever invested in receiving coaching or mentoring?
 
Has anyone on here ever invested in receiving coaching or mentoring?
I know a few people who offer it. Really not people I would recommend. Be wary of coaches (life/executive/financial) who don’t have their s£<t together. The best advice comes from those who have actually done well despite the odds.

Also be wary of financial advisors who deliver pizza as their main job (true story).
 
I know a few people who offer it. Really not people I would recommend. Be wary of coaches (life/executive/financial) who don’t have their s£<t together. The best advice comes from those who have actually done well despite the odds.

Also be wary of financial advisors who deliver pizza as their main job (true story).

I can not emphasize what you said here enough. The bar for financial advisors (In SA at least) is extremely low and doesn't seem to have any formal certification like a bar etc.

Most financial "advisors" I know I wouldn't trust with a single cent. I even know one who almost got prosecuted by discovery over about R4m in dodgy accounts, and another who is currently enjoying a stay courtesy of the state. I'd only trust the large institutions like Allan Gray etc AFTER ascertaining the qualifications of who actually helps you.

Investec for instance I know takes "financial advisors" who have no formal qualifications in finance or business.
 
I know a few people who offer it. Really not people I would recommend. Be wary of coaches (life/executive/financial) who don’t have their s£<t together. The best advice comes from those who have actually done well despite the odds.

Also be wary of financial advisors who deliver pizza as their main job (true story).
I can not emphasize what you said here enough. The bar for financial advisors (In SA at least) is extremely low and doesn't seem to have any formal certification like a bar etc.

Most financial "advisors" I know I wouldn't trust with a single cent. I even know one who almost got prosecuted by discovery over about R4m in dodgy accounts, and another who is currently enjoying a stay courtesy of the state. I'd only trust the large institutions like Allan Gray etc AFTER ascertaining the qualifications of who actually helps you.

Investec for instance I know takes "financial advisors" who have no formal qualifications in finance or business.
yeah this is the dilemma

most people who have done it are not interested in coaching or mentoring someone
 
I know a few people who offer it. Really not people I would recommend. Be wary of coaches (life/executive/financial) who don’t have their s£<t together. The best advice comes from those who have actually done well despite the odds.

Also be wary of financial advisors who deliver pizza as their main job (true story).

I can not emphasize what you said here enough. The bar for financial advisors (In SA at least) is extremely low and doesn't seem to have any formal certification like a bar etc.

Most financial "advisors" I know I wouldn't trust with a single cent. I even know one who almost got prosecuted by discovery over about R4m in dodgy accounts, and another who is currently enjoying a stay courtesy of the state. I'd only trust the large institutions like Allan Gray etc AFTER ascertaining the qualifications of who actually helps you.

Investec for instance I know takes "financial advisors" who have no formal qualifications in finance or business.


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Has anyone on here ever invested in receiving coaching or mentoring?
Invested time sure. I've got a mentor I'd say. Well more than one really but one "formal" one in that we meet once a month, every two months for dinner, talk life, professional stuff. It's someone I respect and I reached out to them to do something like this and they were happy to. Basically someone that gives a different perspective on things, keeps me honest in terms of goals, what I'm trying to do in life and all that. For example I'm too narrow/ limited in how I view certain things - I'm not great at bigger picture thinking in certain respects; they help me with things like this. Sure I've got other people I can talk to about this but that doesn't always happen the way it should - I find this brings a bit more structure and focus to it all. Now to tie it back to financial stuff, while I can crunch the numbers on investments and all that, I'll talk to this person about bigger trends in the world - pharmaceutical, climate, whatever.
 
If you want a financial adviser look here https://www.galileocapital.co.za/get-started/

They are the only company that were actually willing to assist me as an independent investor.

One of the founders is warren ingram who has a lot of useful information online https://www.youtube.com/@honest_money

Does anybody have a recommendation for a portfolio tracker that I can use to input my unit trusts and get nice graphs and growth percentages? Allan Gray reporting is not what I am looking for.
 
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