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stefan9 said:
Faf hasn't played 50 over cricket in years on what basis should he have even been consider. Same goes for rillee.
It's stronger then the 2019 squad.
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fair point. I did not consider that he is only really playing T20 and should be included there. he never officially retired from T20i.

but I will concede on ODI.
 
I firmly believe that if franchise t20 cricket wasn't around, he would still be playing ODI's. Poor administration or not.
Speedster said:
If this was a T20 problem, every country would be having to deal with premature retirements. Maybe you can mention the other countries who have similar issues?
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RunningFromFat said:
I firmly believe that if franchise t20 cricket wasn't around, he would still be playing ODI's. Poor administration or not.
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Yes, franchise cricket has opened up options. Players from other countries have the same options though, why are they making different decisions?
 
Baxteen said:
fair point. I did not consider that he is only really playing T20 and should be included there. he never officially retired from T20i.

but I will concede on ODI.
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He has had chats with Rob Walter regarding the t20wc.
He needs to make himself available for when SA plays T20 matches to be considered.
Was tied up with leagues during both the West Indies and now the aus one.

Hopefully they can work something out. Need our best players.
 
Speedster said:
Yes, franchise cricket has opened up options. Players from other countries have the same options though, why are they making different decisions?
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They are. See Trent Boult as an example. It's an issue for all countries but India, aus and England.
They can pay their players enough that it's not worth it going T20 Merc.
 
stefan9 said:
He has had chats with Rob Walter regarding the t20wc.
He needs to make himself available for when SA plays T20 matches to be considered.
Was tied up with leagues during both the West Indies and now the aus one.

Hopefully they can work something out. Need our best players.
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fully agree.


Maybe his strategy is something along the lines of. its ODI WC year. play Leagues, keep skills sharp and make good money. Next year from the SA20 onwards make sure to be in SA whenever there is any Sa T20i going on. that way he can be selected. if he opens along wiht QDK we might stand a chance
 
stefan9 said:
They are. See Trent Boult as an example. It's an issue for all countries but India, aus and England.
They can pay their players enough that it's not worth it going T20 Merc.
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Firstly, Boult is a 34 year old fast bowler (i.e. twilight of his career) and, secondly, AFAIK he's still playing for NZ.

EDIT: I see he declined a NZ central contract but is still available for NZ.
 
RunningFromFat said:
He(you) always have a choice. It's up to the individual. Also, lets not keep going around in circles. Yes i agree administration must have had an effect on his decisions just like I think franchise t20s has had an effect.
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True, and the neaderthals, at CSA did not see it coming, and fekk'ed forth with both eyes closed - after all what could go wrong ... , then got a very rude awakening, with the way T20 went, grew and developed.

Never mind the corruption, mismangement, and general incompetence.
 
ghaye said:
I'm missing your argument here. Are you agreeing with me that the administrators have no interest in looking after the players and only themselves?
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Are you saying CSA can afford what league cricket is paying
CSA pays the captain the most
League pays 19 year olds the most
 
stefan9 said:
Too many fast bowlers. Should have dropped one and taken a middle order batting reserve.
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Yup, in India batsmen are key to winning, we also only have 1 categorised all rounder and he is a bowling all rounder
Tough call but I really expected Brevis or Stubbs even Ferreira to make the final cut
 
Pak Fa Fui said:
Yup, in India batsmen are key to winning, we also only have 1 categorised all rounder and he is a bowling all rounder
Tough call but I really expected Brevis or Stubbs even Ferreira to make the final cut
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Agreed but who do you drop?

Might have droped Hendriks or Rasie although Rasie been the best ODI performer in recent years with the exception of this year, Magala also lukcy I would rather take Brevis or Ferreira as both bowl a bit
 
L-Dog said:
Agreed but who do you drop?

Might have droped Hendriks or Rasie although Rasie been the best ODI performer in recent years with the exception of this year, Magala also lukcy I would rather take Brevis or Ferreira as both bowl a bit
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Brevis/Stubbs/Ferreira in for Coetzee, it is the only option and he is the new guy and his performance against Aus will have to be good but he is already announced
 
Pak Fa Fui said:
Brevis/Stubbs/Ferreira in for Coetzee, it is the only option and he is the new guy and his performance against Aus will have to be good but he is already announced
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Radaba, Nortje and Jansen will probably start so I assume the 4th-5th spot would go to Ngidi, Coetzee or Magala but agreed they are probably replacable with Stubss/Brevis/Ferreira
 
stefan9 said:
They are. See Trent Boult as an example. It's an issue for all countries but India, aus and England.
They can pay their players enough that it's not worth it going T20 Merc.
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This... and this is also why 50 over cricket needs to be killed.

Pig3 is the only country that can sustain their test teams under the current status quo... soon it will be india only
 
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