The Renault Kwid Thread (Kwid Lovers)

Ivan Leon said:
Nissan have a very bad record of NCAP crash test fails, especially in 'developing markets' - watch how this Nissan Tsuru / Sentra B13 - sold in some South American countries - crumples upon impact, just like a Blue Bulls supporter crushing a Lion Lager tin in his hand!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQu2vrGLPug
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isnt that the same car sold in SA as the nissan sentra?
 
eg2505 said:
isnt that the same car sold in SA as the nissan sentra?
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Indeed so - with 'subtle safety enhancement revisions' for the South American market - as indicated in the Latin NCAP crash test video.


Read more on this model here:

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2013/2/19/Cars-That-Won-t-Die-Nissan-Tsuru-7713035/

Best quote in this article is this comment:

"It doesn't have a lot of the safety equipment you might expect to find in more recently designed cars, but the B13 Sentra performed reasonably well in crash tests in its day, and is still probably safer than driving a cheap Chinese-built car."


Also read this article on the poor safety ratings of Mexican-market vehicles.

How much is a Mexican life worth to car manufacturers such as Nissan, General Motors and Volkswagen? It turns out to be less than $200 dollars. That’s the cost of fitting out a car with basic but lifesaving safety features, features that are included as standard in the United States and emerging markets such Brazil and India. But not in Mexico.
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http://www.eldailypost.com/trade/20...alk-at-spending-to-assure-safety-of-vehicles/
 
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Ivan Leon said:
Indeed so - with 'subtle safety enhancement revisions' for the South American market - as indicated in the Latin NCAP crash test video.


Read more on this model here:

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2013/2/19/Cars-That-Won-t-Die-Nissan-Tsuru-7713035/

Best quote in this article is this comment:

"It doesn't have a lot of the safety equipment you might expect to find in more recently designed cars, but the B13 Sentra performed reasonably well in crash tests in its day, and is still probably safer than driving a cheap Chinese-built car."
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wow, looks exactly like the sentra sold in SA, just change the lights ,
but the dash cluster is the same, and everything else looks identical.

makes me miss my Sentra that got stolen so much more:cry:

but now my question is why not import this into SA, instead of this Renault,
I mean its almost the same as our sentra built in rosslyn, and they well known for being reliable.
surely that would be safer, than something like a go!
 
but now my question is why not import this into SA, instead of this Renault, I mean its almost the same as our sentra built in rosslyn, and they well known for being reliable. surely that would be safer, than something like a go!
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“It is astonishing to see how the Mexican government is still allowing this model to be sold,” said Alejandro Furas, Latin NCAP secretary-general.

“Mexico is one of the most important car exporter countries in the world, and its exports to more mature economies have state-of-the-art safety standards."

“Latin NCAP is troubled by how in the domestic market, the car industry blocks, delays and modifies at their convenience the safety regulations proposed by the government which aim to improve vehicle safety of all Mexicans. The Nissan Tsuru should be removed from the Latin American market.”

Latin NCAP said the model is sold in parts of Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Central and South America.

Testers said 4,102 people died in Tsurus between 2007 and 2012 in Mexico.

“By continuing to sell the Tsuru in Mexico, Nissan are exploiting the lack of crash test standards and exposing their customers to an entirely avoidable risk of death and serious injury,” said David Ward, secretary general of the British-based Global NCAP.

“Nissan should do the right thing and withdraw from sale of this sub-standard and unsafe model.”
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http://www.eldailypost.com/trade/20...efends-tsuru-after-testers-call-it-dangerous/
 
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"Renault South Africa has confirmed its compact, Indian-built Kwid, powered by an 800cc power unit, could arrive in SA later in 2016 or early 2017."

http://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/new-renaults-headed-for-sa-kwid-megane-on-way-20160603

"The Kwid will be available with a 1.0-litre three-cylinder engine pushing out 52kW/91Nm.

According to Renault India, it's the automaker's best-seller there, with more than 50 000 bookings garnered in a month and over 5000 sold monthly

Early in May, Wheels24 reported that the Kwid is based on Renault-Nissan’s CMF-A platform and built in Chennai. It slot in just under the Sandero and Clio in Renault’s local line-up.

In India it’s powered by Renault-Nissan’s brand new, compact 779cc three-cylinder SCe (Smart Control efficiency) petrol motor delivering 40kW and 72Nm of torque mated to a five-speed manual transmission.

With a base weight of only 660kg its claimed fuel consumption is only 3.3 litres/100km, but with the bigger mill (similar to that used in the latest Twingo and the newly introduced smart fortwo and forfour) it will probably be in the region of 4 litres/100km."
 
Yup...

You may remember a report from earlier this year about five vehicles each failing to score a single star for adult occupancy during Global NCAP crash-tests conducted in India. The Renault Kwid was one of those cars.

At the time, the organisation said a few versions of the budget mini-crossover were tested, but each scored zero stars for adult safety. Renault then promised that a safer version was on the way.

Global NCAP has just tested this latest version (still without ABS), but unfortunately the results aren’t much better. The Kwid was again assessed in the 64 km/h frontal impact test but could muster just one star for adult occupant protection.

The standard Kwid in India is offered without airbags. The latest version includes an airbag only for the driver and a seatbelt pretensioner for the driver’s seat. During the test, Global NCAP said that this version still showed “high chest deflection” for the driver, explaining the one-star rating.

“The protection offered to the driver head and neck by the airbag was good. However, the protection to the chest due to high chest compression was poor and the passenger’s chest received weak protection as well. The passenger’s knees could impact with dangerous structures in the dashboard,” the report read.

“The body-shell was rated as unstable and cannot withstand further loadings. It was confirmed that Renault added reinforcements in the structure but only in the driver side and not in the passenger side,” the report concluded.

The Kwid also scored just a single star in the child occupancy safety test.

“Renault has made limited progress; they should be offering their one-star car as the standard version, not an option,” said David Ward, secretary general of Global NCAP.

Last we heard, the Renault Kwid is scheduled to be launched in South Africa in the final quarter of this year, although specification and safety equipment levels have yet to be revealed.

Watch the crash test below…

http://youtu.be/fQNmHeWRmrg

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/renault-kwid-scores-one-star-in-global-ncap-testing/

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Well that's disappointing... especially coming from a company that used their safety features as a huge selling point!
 
Rincewind said:
The Kwid is not from Renault.
It is made by Dacia and rebranded in RSA as Renault
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Fair enough but as much as that is the case, Renault is just lowering their name in safety by doing this.

As an example, I wouldn't expect Volvo to rebrand a car and not make sure it's safe and lines up to what they're known for
 
Well the Kwid, Duster and Sandero are made by Dacia in Romania, it is then rebranded to be sold in most Southern countries as a Renault.
Yes I get your point, but our markets have been flooded with cheap Chinese cars, Renault have to make money somewhere
 
Rincewind said:
Well the Kwid, Duster and Sandero are made by Dacia in Romania, it is then rebranded to be sold in most Southern countries as a Renault.
Yes I get your point, but our markets have been flooded with cheap Chinese cars, Renault have to make money somewhere
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I know about the Sandero, Logan and Duster being Dacias but it seems that it may not be the case with the Kwid - I thought it was!

https://www.rushlane.com/dacia-kwid-europe-launch-abs-airbags-esp-12198749.html

Unfortunately with car pricing going up by so much, these cheap cars are excellent sellers and it makes sense for manufacturers to exploit the market. I do feel though that it's a horrible idea to cut corners in the safety department by such a margin!
 
ahoudet said:
I know about the Sandero, Logan and Duster being Dacias but it seems that it may not be the case with the Kwid - I thought it was!

https://www.rushlane.com/dacia-kwid-europe-launch-abs-airbags-esp-12198749.html

Unfortunately with car pricing going up by so much, these cheap cars are excellent sellers and it makes sense for manufacturers to exploit the market. I do feel though that it's a horrible idea to cut corners in the safety department by such a margin!
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Thanks for the info, the safety makes me think of the Proton, very bad and not even one star
 
ahoudet said:
Fair enough but as much as that is the case, Renault is just lowering their name in safety by doing this.

As an example, I wouldn't expect Geely to rebrand a car and not make sure it's safe and lines up to what they're known for
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FTFY
 
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