The Renault Kwid Thread (Kwid Lovers)

So got one of these shoeboxes for a rental recently in KZN

Where do I start with how terrible it is.


Firstly mine is afflicted by the stuck accelerator pedal issue, that's frankly quite dangerous,


Showed it to the rental guy, who didn't believe me, fortunately, if you do what most IT guys do it seems to fix it.


Secondly, unless I'm suddenly he-man and don't know my own strength, I shouldn't be able to easily pull the inner door trim apart with my bare hands,
like it's missing screws near the mirror or something.

And thirdly, why is some of the sensors (maf sensor) covered by stryrfoam like that you get in a office water cooler, just moulded black?

As for the pros,
Aircon works, although car slows to a crawl when you do especially here in KZN where there are lots of hills.

Suspensions is built like a tank, drove around mayford Warf with all the big potholes, and it handled it like a champ.
Really built strong for Indian roads

Also another pro, audio system works nicely, plenty of connectivity options and adjustment possible.
(To distract one from the rest of the basic interior)

Would I buy one? Nope nope and more nope, plenty of better built cars, especially used.
And people aren't stupid, see how quickly these cars lose value even with a few years in them.

Going to stick to something like a Brio, or a aygo triplet.
At least I hope a can't pull the door trim off so easily.
 
Very tempted to get a Renault in this price range. Unfortunately only the Kwid has an auto option not Sandero?
 
5 cheapest automatics on South Africa's new car market.

While we’re big fans of the manual gearbox here at CARmag.co.za, we’re also acutely aware it’s no fun sitting in heavy traffic with three pedals. So, we decided to take a look at South Africa’s five least expensive new vehicles with automatic transmissions. Bear in mind, of course, there are plenty of options on the used market if the idea of a budget hatch doesn't quite appeal to you (you get what you pay for, after all)...

5. BAIC D20 hatch 1,5 Fashion auto: R189 990

4. Datsun Go 1,2 Lux CVT: R188 300

3. Kia Picanto 1,0 Start auto: R181 995

2. Suzuki Celerio 1,0 GL AMT: R176 400

1. Renault Kwid 1,0 Expression AMT: R154 900

 
Renault plotting Kwid sedan to take on Suzuki DZire and Honda Amaze?

A fresh report out of India claims Renault plans to launch a sedan version of its Kwid budget hatchback in the next couple of years.

According to Indian daily newspaper The Economic Times, the French firm’s entry-level sedan, which reportedly bears an internal codename of “LBA”, will likely be ready by Auto Expo 2022.

The report claims Renault will attempt to “significantly” undercut the Suzuki Dzire (and Honda's Amaze) in terms of pricing ... in India, at least. Hyundai, too, recently revealed its take on the sub-four-metre sedan, unveiling the Aura in that country.

In addition, The Economic Times reports the automaker will offer a fully electric version of the Kwid, along with a new entry-level SUV codenamed “HBC” and running on the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance’s CMF-A underpinnings. The SUV, interestingly, seems likely to be the first to be revealed.

 
I had a good look at the Kwid the other day, and decided everything about this car is cheap.

I'll start (and end) here: it has 3 wheel nuts. 3. Why? because you cannot safely rely on 2 and because 4 costs more than 3. You can multiply this cost saving technique to every part of this car.

:thumbsdown:
 
I had a good look at the Kwid the other day, and decided everything about this car is cheap.

I'll start (and end) here: it has 3 wheel nuts. 3. Why? because you cannot safely rely on 2 and because 4 costs more than 3. You can multiply this cost saving technique to every part of this car.

:thumbsdown:

yip, and lets not fasten the door panels to the car properly.
and lets not even give you a rev counter.

but but but.
lets give people a fancy stereo to make up for the rest of the car.
 
yip, and lets not fasten the door panels to the car properly.
and lets not even give you a rev counter.

but but but.
lets give people a fancy stereo to make up for the rest of the car.
The great Toyota Tazz 1.3 did not have a Rev counter, that did not stop it from becoming a legend. ;)
 
The great Toyota Tazz 1.3 did not have a Rev counter, that did not stop it from becoming a legend. ;)

but the great and mighty Toyota Tazz actually had doors that were screwed on properly.
that you cant just pull off if you pull on the door handle.

also PLENTY of parts, so if you REALLY wanted a rev counter on a tazz,
just get the correct instrument panel from a scrapyard.

same thing with the clock, space is there, but one needs to hunt down the clock module.

not like the KWID, that thing barely had a engine.
but it did have a fancy stereo, so you wouldn't look elsewhere and realize the rest of the car is hilariously cheap and nasty.

and in my case at least a (potential) death trap.
 
Renault Kwid Climber (2020) Review

Fast Facts

Price: R164 900 (March 2020, no options)
Engine: 1.0-litre 3-cylinder naturally-aspirated petrol
Gearbox: 5-speed manual
Fuel economy: 4.7 L/100 km (claimed)
Power/Torque: 50 kW/91 Nm

Price and Warranty (March 2020)

The Renault Kwid range starts from R144 900, with this Kwid Climber manual retailing for R164 900. The vehicle comes with a 5-year/150 000 km warranty, 2-year/30 000 km warranty and 1 year's insurance included.

Verdict

With every new iteration, the Kwid improves incrementally. The first derivatives were crude, but at R119 900, cheap and cheerful, especially with a year's free insurance as part of the deal. For those who'd otherwise rely on lifts, public transport or driving an unsafe or unreliable clunker, the Kwid offered the prospect of attainable new-car ownership. The revised, better-specced model again offers good value (also with 1 year's insurance included), but at R165k (for the Climber derivative) the competition is tight. The decision to add 2 airbags and ABS across the range ups the safety ante, but until we see a more recent crash-test report, the jury's still out on the Kwid's structural integrity.

Should you seriously consider Renault's newcomer? The Kwid's positives barely outweigh the negatives, especially if you need to do the A-B shuffle over short distances – the lack of a strong crash structure is a big red flag for us. Also, the Climber's driving dynamics are a tad alarming, especially at the national speed limit. Factor in a crosswind at 120 kph and the vehicle's relative light mass makes it susceptible to lateral movements, which can be very disconcerting.

Because of this, we were reluctant to drive the Kwid faster than at 90 kph in windy conditions. In the confines of the urban scenario where speeds don't go into 3 digits, we really enjoyed the diminutive Renault's generous specification, but the package is let down by a rough engine, poor dynamics and an awkward driver's position. If you want a brand-new budget car (as opposed to trawling for low-mileage demo cars), then we'd heartily suggest the new Hyundai Atos, which offers a smoother engine, more overall refinement and Hyundai's 7-year warranty. It's all very well to offer a cheap car for the masses, but Hyundai manages to make its little Atos feel more upmarket for a lower price than this Kwid.


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I had a good look at the Kwid the other day, and decided everything about this car is cheap.

I'll start (and end) here: it has 3 wheel nuts. 3. Why? because you cannot safely rely on 2 and because 4 costs more than 3. You can multiply this cost saving technique to every part of this car.

:thumbsdown:
I don't like the Kwid, so don't take my following question as my defending this car, however, you cannot base your feelings on the fact that it has 3 lug nuts, trucks have nearly 20 on each wheel in a bid to share the load of the added weight, the same goes for passenger cars, if you are able to show me the maths that validates your claims that this lightweight car is not able to be supported fully by 3 lug nuts, I am keen to see it.
 
I don't like the Kwid, so don't take my following question as my defending this car, however, you cannot base your feelings on the fact that it has 3 lug nuts, trucks have nearly 20 on each wheel in a bid to share the load of the added weight, the same goes for passenger cars, if you are able to show me the maths that validates your claims that this lightweight car is not able to be supported fully by 3 lug nuts, I am keen to see it.
I think his point was more around cost cutting than the mechanics of supporting the car. I am also keen to hear why they opted for 3, is it keeping the weight down, cost or its just a styling option they chose to go with?
 
Alto K10 vs Kwid vs S-Presso: Off-Road Challenge! | Zigwheels.com

We know you never asked us for this comparison review. So why did we do it? This is not what you’d expect when we’re talking about an off-road comparison review, right? ‘

Off-road’ and ‘SUV’ are two terms that go hand in hand but in reality, most SUVs rarely leave the road.

In the remote, hilly areas of India, it’s little hatchbacks like the Maruti Suzuki Alto that are being used to travel through unforgiving terrain. Ultimately, it has been facing challenges it was never built for.

Now, though, we have alternatives like the Maruti Suzuki S-Presso and Renault Kwid. At their core, they follow the formula of the Alto but offer more ground clearance and bring a little more sophistication to the game.

But does that give them what it takes to beat the original champion of the cause?

 
If you stay in a windy town like Cape Town (East London & PE?) I would not recommend this car or the Datsun Go. Maybe you need to load it up with ballast.

I drove one two weeks ago. By the time I got to my destination I was drenched in sweat from battling to keep it on the road. The wind was just blowing it all over the place.
 
Five years in the making: Renault's Kwid made quite an impact since arriving in 2015

A strong seller

Many people have praised it as the perfect city car mainly because of its frugal 1.0-litre three-cylinder engine that offers an impressive 4.4l-litres/100km fuel usage. Earlier versions provided very little in terms of safety and convenience features, but Renault has remedied it by offering more in terms of these concerns.

Available in Expression, Dynamique, and range-topping Climber trim, you get a reverse camera, a 20.32cm touchscreen display integrated with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay along with dual airbags and ABS+ EBD.

It also has very odd, yet unique features like the three-hole, 14-inch wheels, and even the floor console mounted automatic transmission dial. The element of 'less equals more' is applied to give the interior a spacious feel.

As far as performance goes, it is not the fastest thing on four wheels and packs 50kW and 91Nm, mated to a five-speed manual or four-speed automatic transmission. It's aimed at the university student and first-time car buyer demographic that need to get from point A to B while still being able to enjoy the connectivity features that come with it.

 
Tiny Logan, anyone? Rumoured new Renault Kwid sedan rendered

A digital artist has released a rendering showing what the rumoured new Renault Kwid sedan could look like.

Shoeb Kalania created the image for IndianAutosBlog.com ahead of the new small sedan’s expected reveal in 2021. From where we’re sitting, such a model could end up playing the role of spiritual successor to the Logan saloon in markets that no longer receive the latter.


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