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We must have the world's dumbest rugby players - we keep on doing the same thing, hoping for a different result. Other teams have worked out our so called strengths - scrums and mauls, and we have been neutralized. Wales, NZ and now the Wallabies have figured out how to counter us.
Why do we not learn from this? Time to evolve or die.


I think that's a bit unfair if the teams counter us with illegal tactics. Interference running on our high balls, dangerous tackling, etc. Where I agree with you is that we should adapt, and perhaps attend some courses at the Nic White School for the Performing Arts.
 
The problem is the moment you complain it's fobbed off that you just upset you lost.

I have no issue with the result, the Boks were rubbish and did nothing to earn the win. But blatant foul play can't go unnoticed
Nope it cannot go unnoticed and unpunished, but it's going to do just that.
 
Worst day ever for the blitzbokke.

Was too late to watch the final - did the All Blacks play a blinder or were the Fijians just knackered from their earlier games ?

Samoa were surprisingly good.
 
Did you not see Faf's physical assault on Nic White? Lucky to get away with a yellow card. Nearly killed him, reckless and dangerous attack. No place in rugby for that type of behaviour. /s
Not sure if you being sarcastic or not?
 
Nope, he was trying to say that Faf did nothing wrong.
It was stupid from Faf. You can't make contact with a players head.

Nik milked it for all it was worth though. Not in the spirit of the game either. If White hadn't collapsed in a heap, would the ref and tmo even looked at it? Probably not.

Makazole should have gone down in a heap after the Marika 'tackle'. Might have got the attention of the tmo, then anything is possible re a ruling. But that's not how the Boks roll.

Marx gang tackled, lifted by his neck and groped should have collapsed In a heap grasping at his throat and balls.

Becomes a slippery slope doesn't it?

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Are be favouring the boks this weekend? I hope so but when I'm looking at my Superbru my fingers keep selecting an Australia win.... :cautious:
 
Are be favouring the boks this weekend? I hope so but when I'm looking at my Superbru my fingers keep selecting an Australia win.... :cautious:
We favourites yeah, but 4 out of 30 in Aus since readmission makes a laughing stock of the odds...
 
Tuesday, 29 August 2022

Moodie to start as Boks make changes for Sydney Test

Talented young utility back Canan Moodie will make his Springbok debut against Australia in Sydney in the Castle Lager Rugby Championship on Saturday as injuries and the desire to try a few new player combinations saw head coach Jacques Nienaber include eight new players in the starting team.

Handre Pollard, Lukhanyo Am and Pieter-Steph du Toit were all ruled out due to knee injuries, while Elton Jantjies injured his hand and was not available for selection this weekend, which means Damian Willemse will move from fullback to flyhalf, Jesse Kriel will slot in at centre, and Franco Mostert has been included in the loose trio.

The 19-year-old Moodie earns his first start on the right wing in a positional switch with Warrick Gelant, who has been named among the replacements, while the experienced Willie le Roux will take Willemse’s place at fullback, with the other change in the backline at scrumhalf, where Jaden Hendrikse takes over from Faf de Klerk.

Apart from Mostert’s inclusion among the forwards, prop Steven Kitshoff and hooker Malcolm Marx earn starts in a new-look front row with Frans Malherbe, while Jasper Wiese takes over at No 8 from Duane Vermeulen, who will provide an impact off the replacements bench.

These changes see a reshuffle of the front row on the bench, with Deon Fourie serving as the replacement hooker, and Ox Nche and Trevor Nyakane providing cover at prop.

Among the backs, Cobus Reinach will serve as back-up for Hendrikse at scrumhalf, with Frans Steyn providing cover flyhalf and centre, while Gelant will offer options on the wing and fullback.

“We selected a team we thought would be best for this match given that we have several players out with injuries and with an eye on how we want to play,” said Nienaber.

“Handre, Lukhanyo, Elton and Pieter-Steph are all carrying injuries which adds to a list that includes Cheslin Kolbe and Sbu Nkosi, while Kurt-Lee Arendse is also out serving a suspension, and this has forced our hand to make a few changes in some positions.

“With both flyhalves injured, Damian was the natural choice at No 10 where he has slotted in for us a lot. He is also becoming a settled player in our team with over 20 Test caps to his name.

“This will also be a great test for Canan, who was a stand-out player for the Vodacom Bulls this season in the Vodacom United Rugby Championship. He’s a very talented player, who will enjoy this opportunity.”

Nienaber added: “Cobus at his best is world class and having seen what he offers us at training we think he’s close to that form. With him, Warrick and Frans Steyn on the bench we have sufficient cover among the backs.”

Commenting on the changes among the forwards Nienaber said: “With Bongi (Mbonambi) and Trevor injured in the last few weeks we were in a position where we could test other combinations and we got some good answers in that regard.

“This weekend we opted to make a few switches with Ox and Trevor playing off the bench along with Deon Fourie. With Bongi and Malcolm both settled with over 50 Test caps each, it was always our plan to give Joseph (Dweba) and Deon a chance at hooker, and this week Deon gets a run.”

Zoning in on the match itself, Nienaber said: “We had a thorough review of our performance against Australia last week, and the most disappointing aspect is that were dominant in several areas of the game, but we struggled to show that on the scoreboard.

“This week is a final for us to stay in the competition and we are expecting Australia to be just as desperate, but so are we.

“We let ourselves down in the last two games and we are determined to rectify that this week and change our fortunes in Australia. We’ll prepare as well as possible this week to stay in the hunt for the title,” he added.

Springbok team to face Australia in Sydney:

15 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 76 caps, 65 pts (13t)
14 – Canan Moodie (Vodacom Bulls) – uncapped
13 – Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 53 caps, 60 pts (12t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 63 caps, 35 pts (7t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 30 caps, 105 pts (21t)
10 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 21 caps, 12 pts (1t, 2c, 1p)
9 – Jaden Hendrikse (Cell C Sharks) – 7 caps, 5 pts (1t)
8 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 15 caps, 0 pts
7 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 56 caps, 5pts (1t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 68 caps, 35 pts (7t)
5 – Lood de Jager (Wild Knights) – 61 caps, 25 pts (5t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Cell C Sharks) – 103 caps, 15 pts (3t)
3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 51 caps, 5 pts (1t)
2 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 52 caps, 55 pts (11t)
1 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 64 caps, 5 pts (1t)

Replacements:

16 – Deon Fourie (DHL Stormers) – 1 cap, 0pts
17 – Ox Nche (Cell C Sharks) – 12 caps, 0pts
18 – Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92) – 57 caps, 5pts (1t)
19 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 24 caps, 15 pts (3t)
20 – Duane Vermeulen (Ulster) – 63 caps, 15 pts (3t)
21 – Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 21 caps, 40pts (8t)
22 – Frans Steyn (Toyota Cheetahs) – 75 caps, 150 pts (11t, 7c, 24p, 3d)
23 – Warrick Gelant (Racing 92) – 11 caps, 15 pts (3t)


Springbok record against the Wallabies in Australia:

Played 42; Won 12; Lost 28; Drawn 2; Points for: 702, Points against: 925; Tries scored 82, Tries conceded 94; Highest score 38-12 in Brisbane (2013); Biggest win 26 points in Brisbane (2013). Win % 28,6%.

Milestones:

  1. Malcolm Marx is the top try scorer in the squad against Australia with three tries in seven Test matches.
  2. Siya Kolisi has played 38 Tests as captain, making him the second most capped Springbok captain behind John Smit, who led the team in 83 Tests.
Miscellaneous:
  1. The total Test caps for the Springbok starting line-up is 727.
  2. There are 257 caps in the backline with 470 caps amongst the forwards. On the bench there are a further 264 caps.
  3. The average caps per player in the backline are 36, the forwards 58, while the players on the bench average 33.

Issued by SA Rugby Communications
 
Injuries have forced a few interesting selections, would have like to see Andre Esterhuizen start at 12 or at least the bench, good to see Moodie given a run but man debut against Koroibete will be tough.
 
It looks like our plan for the next world cup is to drop the bomb squad idea and have a proper plan b that's a running game.

6 very mobile players coming off the bench, 3 backs and 3 forwards
 
Don't think the ref knows how to ref scrums either, what comes to mind is when he gave the penalty against Frans Malherbe for scrumming in, later the game the exact same scenario happened and we got the penalty.

We most definitely played terrible, but how are you supposed to build momentum and start improving in the game when the ref is penalizing us every few minutes if we eventually regain possession.

My 2c, Rassie needs to bring out another video after what transpired this weekend.

Would also like to see Johan Grobbelaar pulled into the squad again.
 
A lot of changes forced due to injuries. I like this team but not sure if all the changes will help to gel a team hungry for a victory.
Yeah. Will be interesting to see how these guys perform.

Bit worrying the sudden injuries to so many key players.

Pollard and psdt have had serious injuries in the past. Sometimes what seems a minor injury can turn into a career ending one for them.

Also, Am is our most significant back line threat, organizer of D and motivator of men. His absence leaves a big hole, literally and figuratively.

We've seen too many times in the past what Kriel brings and it isn't really anything particularly dynamic.

Franco starting is a like for like replacement for psdt but despite his immense work rate and the value that he brings at line out time, I'd opt for someone more dynamic in the form of kwagga.

We not going to beat the aussies with physicality. We need to attack the space and select players who can beat defenders by running around them, rather than at them.

Anyway, will be very interesting to see what Moodie brings. Baptism of fire for the youngster. Nothing he faced in URC will have prepared him for what he will face on Saturday. His progression through the ranks has been rapid. I hope he doesn't find himself way out of his depth all of a sudden.

Willie starting at 15, as always will either be a massive success or a massive failure. That's just the nature of Willie. Either going to kill it or be killed.

Pollard, despite all the flack he's been getting lately, has been goal kicking extremely well, prior the last Saturdays game. I still think he's our best 10 by quite some margin. Willemse at 10 though, is going to be interesting. Again, if he can get a few good touches early on that should give him the confidence required to control the game for the full 80. He's likely to play the full 80 with very little to no cover at 10.

Midfield is my biggest concern.

Can't wait for this match though.

Hopefully the Boks bring something decent. Apparently they had a great training session yesterday. I find this surprising given all the injuries.
 
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