The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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JuliusSeizure said:
Bekker's conscious must have got to him after having had to witness the DA run the place to the ground.
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Yeah, looks like he did not give them a chance by even discussing his resignation, just went straight to the Municipal manager.
 
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rietrot said:
Lessons here for the DA. Look at how the ANC compromised to get this coalillision. They are the majority but gave the others the mayor job and and equal opportunity to lood.
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LMAO

There are only two parties in that coalition, three with the AIC guy.

So one, the AIC guy has the mayoralty (I find it laughable that you think it's goodwill or anything except plain puppetry by the Doomsday Coalition.) Two, ANC and EFF can literally split the other positions, since there are only two parties left.
 
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cr@zydude said:
What's going on with the DA and these half/almost/reverse resignations? Their previous mayor also tried to change his resignation date.
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It's signs of a party that is not in good health, in any normal situation a member will first discuss their resignation within the party, especially when it has serious consequences like it did with the former mayor and this councillor.

At this rate Cilliers is going to spend the rest of his term putting out political fires instead of service delivery, for me it looks like we might not be done as far as mayors are concerned if they don't get things to calm down.
 
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PrimeSteak said:
LMAO

There are only two parties in that coalition, three with the AIC guy.

So one, the AIC guy has the mayoralty (I find it laughable that you think it's goodwill or anything except plain puppetry by the Doomsday Coalition.) Two, ANC and EFF can literally split the other positions, since there are only two parties left.
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Correction: So there are even more parties in the EKH Doomsday Coalition that aren't even included in the exec... What were you saying about "Look how ANC does it"? @rietrot
 
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Interesting article on the resurgence of the IFP in KZN and the reason it identifies as why it lost support. Sssh...down tell the EFF.

The IFP, on the other hand, is proving to be the comeback kid. After controlling the province outright after the 1994 election, it lost control to the ANC a decade later. Narend Singh, chair of the IFP’s national campaigns committee, attributes this to its decision to enter into coalitions with the ANC in some areas.

“In hindsight, one of the errors we made was letting the ANC have MEC positions,” he tells the FM. “Coalitions can be dangerous — we were being destroyed from the inside; many of our own began colluding with the ANC.”
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But it was the 2021 local government election that really blew the lights out for the IFP — and sounded the alarm for a complacent ANC. The IFP’s support grew to 26.4%, while the ANC fell to just 41.5%, from nearly 58% five years earlier.


This rapid resurgence has bolstered the IFP’s confidence — and has deeply unsettled the ANC.

In terms of municipal governance, the IFP has improved in leaps and bounds too: from controlling just two municipalities in 2011, to 11 in 2016 and a staggering 28 of the province’s 54 in 2021, says provincial chair Thami Ntuli.
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www.businesslive.co.za

Is the IFP SA’s comeback kid?

After a years-long electoral slump, the party is slowly taking back its KwaZulu-Natal stronghold from the ruling party
www.businesslive.co.za www.businesslive.co.za
 
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The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Interesting article on the resurgence of the IFP in KZN and the reason it identifies as why it lost support. Sssh...down tell the EFF.
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The EFF don't have the capital within the leadership to dent the IFP heavily.

It was a different story with the ANC under Zuma. IFP is a Zulu Nationalist movement and so was Zuma who used Zulu Nationalism to rally supporters behind him. Zuma's and the IFP's networks sometimes interlinked which caused the downfall of IFP. IIRC, IFP controls Nkandla as well.
 
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JuliusSeizure said:
The EFF don't have the capital within the leadership to dent the IFP heavily.
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They made inroads in 2021, but it seems those inroads are being reversed quickly and turned into IFP inroads.
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Zuma who used Zulu Nationalism to rally supporters behind him.
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True. But also, plainly IFP okes getting consumed with time to eat:

The IFP, on the other hand, is proving to be the comeback kid. After controlling the province outright after the 1994 election, it lost control to the ANC a decade later. Narend Singh, chair of the IFP’s national campaigns committee, attributes this to its decision to enter into coalitions with the ANC in some areas.

“In hindsight, one of the errors we made was letting the ANC have MEC positions,” he tells the FM. “Coalitions can be dangerous — we were being destroyed from the inside; many of our own began colluding with the ANC.”
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JuliusSeizure said:
Zuma's and the IFP's networks sometimes interlinked which caused the downfall of IFP. IIRC, IFP controls Nkandla as well.
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I don't think that's the thing. IMO Zuma's popularity in KZN, IFP members betraying their own to ANC for "time to eat" benefits with the IFP/ANC coalition, IFP not being able to break through Zuma's popularity, etc.
 
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