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You have to be trolling, right?
If those results is what we end up with; not sure how a government is formed. ANC either had to choose MK or DA. As the EFF won't have enough to help them over the line.
ToxicBunny
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Can't see the ANC happily choosing MK at this point given the animosity between the 2, and the EFF on a national level is questionable as well.
Then it would have to be the DA. Unless a minority government is formed.
ToxicBunny
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At this point its obviously all a guessing game really.
All bets are off once the results come in.
Sideshow Bob
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Even if ANC gets 40%, it will form government by cobbling EFF+MK+Whatever. They will not relinquish power that easily.
I really don't see them getting below 45% though. Or DA getting above 35%
konfab
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MK and EFF would want Ramaphosa gone as a pre-condition to any deal, and they would want cabinet positions.
ShaunSA
Derailment Squad
I can't see the ANC having a problem with that. Pretty sure the long knives are out for him already
There is less than zero % chance the DA gets over 30% let alone 35%.
As @ToxicBunny says; it's all a guessing game for now. Will have to see what happens after elections.
konfab
Honorary Master
45% is the new 70%.
I think we are seeing blowback from the NHI:
I think we are seeing the ANC lose support of middle class public sector workers, which basically was their only base in the middle class. Think about it, is a poor person finally get into the middle class via a teaching position, or as a local government admin person, and think: "finally, I don't have to worry about public hospitals", and the ANC goes: "nah fam, you are rich and privileged and you should go back to the state hospitals".
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Did you drink this morning? We are talking about the anc here remember.
Nom Chompsky
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But what TB says is true - there is certainly no love loss between the Ramaphosa and Zuma factions. They really do hate each other.
wingnut771
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Show me the 2019 results for Canberra.
ToxicBunny
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Of course they would, those are ultimately givens.
It all depends on just how much "power" Cyril still has inside the NEC when that happens, and also how much ANC members stand to lose out when the EFF and MK inevitably want the lucrative and powerful cabinet positions.
ShaunSA
Derailment Squad
The Zuma faction will be ascending if Rama produces a kak result this election
And they'd have no problem working with MK and EFF
wingnut771
Honorary Master
45% is the new 70%.
I think we are seeing blowback from the NHI:
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I think we are seeing the ANC lose support of middle class public sector workers, which basically was their only base in the middle class. Think about it, is a poor person finally get into the middle class via a teaching position, or as a local government admin person, and think: "finally, I don't have to worry about public hospitals", and the ANC goes: "nah fam, you are rich and privileged and you should go back to the state hospitals".
I think ANC will end up at around 44%. Which is a long way from 57% they currently have. That is already a step in the right direction and I think we need to maybe view this election as a pre-curser to 2029 elections.
First ANC looses majority and we hobble along for another 5 years. Then we get ANC out completely in 2029. It's a process.
ShaunSA
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He's barely kept control of the NEC since he took over. A big enough loss will ensure he's history
wingnut771
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Why is MK increasing?45% is the new 70%.
I think we are seeing blowback from the NHI:
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I think we are seeing the ANC lose support of middle class public sector workers, which basically was their only base in the middle class. Think about it, is a poor person finally get into the middle class via a teaching position, or as a local government admin person, and think: "finally, I don't have to worry about public hospitals", and the ANC goes: "nah fam, you are rich and privileged and you should go back to the state hospitals".
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