The SA Smart ID Card Thread

An ID for Every Citizen: Mothlanthe

All South African citizens should have identity documents, Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe said on Thursday.

The transition from the ID book to a smart card ID marked the distance travelled after the pass laws were abolished, he said.

"That distance is measured by understanding the future as projected by those who came before us.

"As we mark this distance, we remember that in 1930 our mothers rose and demonstrated against the dompas. They took a firm stand against the dompas."

Motlanthe was speaking at the Union Buildings, in Pretoria, after receiving his new smart card ID.

"This [event] marks the distance we have travelled. Every citizen must have an ID, it's not wrong to have an ID," he said.

"Of course it was wrong to carry a dompas."

The home affairs department also issued former president Nelson Mandela with a smart card ID on Thursday, as the ailing statesman celebrated his 95th birthday.

Mandela was admitted to the Medi-Clinic Heart Hospital in Pretoria on June 8 with a recurring lung infection.

His daughter Zindzi Mandela-Motlhajwa was handed a replica of the card by former president Thabo Mbeki at the Union Buildings.

She said Mandela was making a remarkable recovery in hospital.

"I would like to assure you, though I may not be a medical doctor, that Tata is making remarkable progress and we look forward to having him back at home soon," she said.

"I often tease him, saying 'our father who art in Houghton'. We would like to have him there [in Houghton], not in hospital."

She professed her admiration for Mandela, not only as her father but also as a freedom fighter.

"It's such an honour to receive this historical gift on behalf of Tata. I admire him not only as my father, but as my comrade and my leader for the courageous fight he was part of with the [African National Congress] against the unjust pass laws."

"Today marks this historic event in terms of the recognition of our citizenship and the restoration of the dignity of the majority of our people who were denied and stripped of this dignity," she said.

The first smart cards were being issued to eminent people, such as President Jacob Zuma, Mandela's ex-wife Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, his wife Graca Machel, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, and Mbeki.

Other recipients of the first batch of cards were former president FW de Klerk, and struggle veterans Sophie de Bruyn, Andrew Mlangeni, Ahmed Kathrada, and Dennis Goldberg.

Home Affairs Minister Naledi Pandor said other first recipients would include aged South Africans, some of them 100-years-old.


Source : Sapa /jm/tk/jk/clh
Date : 18 Jul 2013 10:21
 
Let's just hope these are really SMART cards and does away with the need to carry a drivers license too.
 
Let's just hope these are really SMART cards and does away with the need to carry a drivers license too.

I hope so too

Dlamini-Zuma said discussions were underway with the Department of Transport regarding merging the drivers' licence card with the smart card.

At the moment the idea was not feasible as drivers' licences had to be renewed every five years, while the smart ID card could be used for up to ten years without needing to be replaced

http://newswall.co.za/news/latest/moneyweb/id-smart-cards-by-next-elections/5c5i.94837
 
Let's just hope these are really SMART cards and does away with the need to carry a drivers license too.

So you would need to replace your ID card every 5 years?
 
Maybe there could be a way to store drivers licence information digitally into the Smart ID, which can be updated every 5 years without physically replacing the card?

... that's phase 2 ... due for rollout in 2050 :p
 
Maybe there could be a way to store drivers licence information digitally into the Smart ID, which can be updated every 5 years without physically replacing the card?

Well yeah I don't see how it would be so difficult, the difference would be the information printed on the card.
 
I seriously don't understand why our license cards can't just double as an ID document. Combine all the licenses onto one card along with any additional ID info (not that I can see any) and we're sorted
Last time I had to use my ID was when I went to vote. Other than that it just lies around in the bottom of some drawer until it's time to vote again
 
I seriously don't understand why our license cards can't just double as an ID document. Combine all the licenses onto one card along with any additional ID info (not that I can see any) and we're sorted.

Yeah, totally. Then how about we drop all the fancy malware-infested cellphone NFC payment technology and simply use these smart IDs as our new e-wallets! They are obviously cutting edge when it comes to security features, since they are being entrusted with our 'identity', right? So goodbye stinky drug-stained anonymous cash! And anyway, cellphones will be totally obsolete in a coupla years, with all that clunky hardware getting smaller, and moving into our bodies where it belongs. We'll be able to watch a fuzzy, animated QR code on TV and get the latest OS updates direct to our brain-pods. No hassle.

How about we let this new ID card also double as our credit cards, debit cards, and backstage passes!

And then we can tie it to our Trackr fleet-tracking systems and make sure granny is safe, because our iPad tells us that that she remembered to slide the card through the MasterCard slot on lamppost #343534535 in the Company Gardens, as she strolled by, and no registered sex offenders, devious artists or metalheads are anywhere within a 250 ft radius. These active 'pings' from conscientious citizens will help augment the inefficient metrics-based passive sensors currently employed to monitor their safety and moral security. We can change all the locks in the country over to card-slot-based systems and finally all the struggling local door manufacturers can move into the new subscription e-service business model, micro-charging for entry and exit, like all the other innovative movers-and-shakers from silicon valley.

This new SmartID card will be able to augment transactions done using FaceBook FaceCam at all decent retail establishments: in case the facebook camera does not properly recognize you (that gooorgeous new hairdo!), you can simply swipe the new card to confirm your identity, which, for a limited time only, can also earn you extra Face-time on youtube.

The card can be tied to the game avatars we will use when playing 'InternetBanking!', earning achievement badges when we perform a skillful transactions, or overcome a particularly costly door. Just think of the employment opportunities created - all the new hardware devices and industrial design that will be needed! Cape Town is design capital of the world at the moment isn't it? Think of all the sexy new LED-lit systems and devices that will need to be card-slot-enabled for the new Unified Identity System.

Additionally, I see remarkable opportunities in tying this to the the new Google Ring v1 (http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/google-kill-passwords-magic-ring-130314.htm), which, when bound via ultra-secure RFID signals to the new Smart card ID, will enable verifiable InterNet Single Sign-on in One fell swoop. Nobody will be able to run the gauntlett of smearing our Politicians or the Temple-Guardians of the Reserve Bank online again without standing up to the responsibility of their Identity! Finally, the Grand Web of Things will be truly woven, and Right of Admission can be globally Reserved.

http://www.geek.com/chips/google-ring-to-provide-one-hardware-password-to-rule-them-all-1542568/

Another thing: in the spirit of patriotism, and for the sake of global innovation, it honors us that these kinds of complicated systems, with great potential to radically change society, be tested out first on willing developing third-world countries, like India and ourselves. Think of it as taking one for Team Earth!

This techno-utopia is brought to you via our new centralized, totally secure identity database.
1 person, 1 card. 1 pass...starting with the children.

It's the Right Thing To Do.
 
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SA Smart ID card will cost you R140

Home Affairs Minister Naledi Pandor has announced that the new South African Smart ID cards will cost applicants R140

Picture_Minister-of-Home-Affaris-Naledi-Pandor-holding-her-Smart-ID.jpg

Home Affairs Minister Naledi Pandor announced on 23 July 2013 that South Africans will pay R140 for a new smart ID cards.

Pandor said that South Africans will be invited to apply for the smart ID cards, and that the applications will be in accordance with month of birth.

She added that applicants will be expected to pay R140 for the new smart ID cards. Smart ID cards will be issued free to 16 year olds who are first-time applicants.

The home affairs minister said that the roll-out of the smart ID cards will take a few years, and called on the public to exercise patience.

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/82863-sa-smart-id-card-will-cost-you-r140.html
 
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Yeah, totally. Then how about we drop all the fancy malware-infested cellphone NFC payment technology and simply use these smart IDs as our new e-wallets! They are obviously cutting edge when it comes to security features, since they are being entrusted with our 'identity', right? So goodbye stinky drug-stained anonymous cash! And anyway, cellphones will be totally obsolete in a coupla years, with all that clunky hardware getting smaller, and moving into our bodies where it belongs. We'll be able to watch a fuzzy, animated QR code on TV and get the latest OS updates direct to our brain-pods. No hassle.

How about we let this new ID card also double as our credit cards, debit cards, and backstage passes!

And then we can tie it to our Trackr fleet-tracking systems and make sure granny is safe, because our iPad tells us that that she remembered to slide the card through the MasterCard slot on lamppost #343534535 in the Company Gardens, as she strolled by, and no registered sex offenders, devious artists or metalheads are anywhere within a 250 ft radius. These active 'pings' from conscientious citizens will help augment the inefficient metrics-based passive sensors currently employed to monitor their safety and moral security. We can change all the locks in the country over to card-slot-based systems and finally all the struggling local door manufacturers can move into the new subscription e-service business model, micro-charging for entry and exit, like all the other innovative movers-and-shakers from silicon valley.

This new SmartID card will be able to augment transactions done using FaceBook FaceCam at all decent retail establishments: in case the facebook camera does not properly recognize you (that gooorgeous new hairdo!), you can simply swipe the new card to confirm your identity, which, for a limited time only, can also earn you extra Face-time on youtube.

The card can be tied to the game avatars we will use when playing 'InternetBanking!', earning achievement badges when we perform a skillful transactions, or overcome a particularly costly door. Just think of the employment opportunities created - all the new hardware devices and industrial design that will be needed! Cape Town is design capital of the world at the moment isn't it? Think of all the sexy new LED-lit systems and devices that will need to be card-slot-enabled for the new Unified Identity System.

Additionally, I see remarkable opportunities in tying this to the the new Google Ring v1 (http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/google-kill-passwords-magic-ring-130314.htm), which, when bound via ultra-secure RFID signals to the new Smart card ID, will enable verifiable InterNet Single Sign-on in One fell swoop. Nobody will be able to run the gauntlett of smearing our Politicians or the Temple-Guardians of the Reserve Bank online again without standing up to the responsibility of their Identity! Finally, the Grand Web of Things will be truly woven, and Right of Admission can be globally Reserved.

http://www.geek.com/chips/google-ring-to-provide-one-hardware-password-to-rule-them-all-1542568/

Another thing: in the spirit of patriotism, and for the sake of global innovation, it honors us that these kinds of complicated systems, with great potential to radically change society, be tested out first on willing developing third-world countries, like India and ourselves. Think of it as taking one for Team Earth!

This techno-utopia is brought to you via our new centralized, totally secure identity database.
1 person, 1 card. 1 pass...starting with the children.

It's the Right Thing To Do.

Haha! Great post. ;)

"Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_by/vladimir+ilyich+lenin

Russian Spy Ring Aimed to Make Children Agents
July 31, 2012

A Russian spy ring busted in the U.S. two years ago planned to recruit members' children to become agents, and one had already agreed to his parents' request, according to current and former U.S. officials.

When the suspects were arrested in 2010 with much fanfare, official accounts suggested they were largely ineffectual. New details about their time in the U.S., however, suggest their work was more sophisticated and sometimes more successful than previously known.

One of them infiltrated a well-connected consulting firm with offices in Manhattan and Washington, D.C., by working as the company's in-house computer expert, according to people familiar with the long-running U.S. investigation of the spy ring.

The effort to bring children into the family business suggests the ring was thinking long term: Children born or reared in America were potentially more valuable espionage assets than their parents because when they grew up they would be more likely to pass a U.S. government background check.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...od=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories#articleTabs=article

School forced to defend Occupy Wall Street song performed by eight-year-olds
Critics say political song could not have been written by youngsters
4 January 2012

A school is defending a group of pupils who have allegedly written a song about the Occupy Wall street protest movement.

The song, Part of the 99 was performed by a group pf third grade children at Woodbrook Elementary School in Albemarle County, Virginia.

However the piece has become shrouded in controversy as a swathe of bloggers have claimed it was produced by way of 'indoctrination'.

But despite the backlash, Albermale County school district is defending the song, claiming the children chose the topic and wrote the lyrics themselves.

School spokesman, Phil Giaramita told Fox News: 'We really don’t censor the topics that students come up with.

'This is the first time we’ve had the lyrics of one of these songs criticised.'

The controversy surrounding the song was first reported by the Weasel Zippers website, which claimed it could not have been written by pupils in the third grade.

A statement on the website said: 'They’re actually claiming third-grade children wrote these lyrics and chose the topic as well, because what eight-year-old child isn’t obsessed with class warfare?'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-performed-year-olds.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[video=youtube;eMAm5oQXWWg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMAm5oQXWWg[/video]

Google this: socialism communism taught at school
 
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Naledi Pandor Arrives to hand over President Zuma's Smart Card ID

Home Affairs Minister Naledi Pandor arrived at the department's offices in the Pretoria CBD on Tuesday to hand over a smart card ID to President Jacob Zuma.

Pandor toured the offices and spoke to members of the public who were there for help.

The home affairs department issued former president Nelson Mandela with a smart card ID on July 18, when he celebrated his 95th birthday.

At that event, Pandor said the transformation from the ID book to the high tech ID card was symbolic of South Africa's expedition in the democratic dispensation.


Source : Sapa /pd/tk/clh/jk
Date : 30 Jul 2013 13:28
 
R140 and they're going to try and force me to do this, ummm nope... sorry.

My ID book is still perfectly workable and doesn't need to be replaced anytime soon.
 
Well you have a few years to replace it.

It will get replaced when it needs to be replaced, not before...

my last one lasted more than 15 years and only needed to be replaced because my wallet was stolen and I had my ID in it at the time.

I am not one for giving the government money because they decide I need a new ID document when I don't.... I have no issue with them phasing this in and then replacing with Smart Cards as and when they are needed, not in some pre-defined time frame.
 
It will get replaced when it needs to be replaced, not before...

my last one lasted more than 15 years and only needed to be replaced because my wallet was stolen and I had my ID in it at the time.

At some point the old id book will no longer be accepted by anyone (banks, etc) as valid ID.
 
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