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Question of the Day: At what point do you sell your car?
The SA Vehicle Industry Thread
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FiestaST
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SA’s 12 worst-selling cars (under R500k) of Feb 2017
The monthly Naamsa stats generally make for rather interesting reading. But, naturally, we tend to focus on the best-performing vehicles in terms of sales.
Indeed, we’ve already reported the 10 best-selling passenger cars of February 2017, as well as listing the 10 best-selling bakkies in our market for the same period.
But now we’ve decided to take a look at the worst-selling passenger car models on our shores. Of course, we must bear in mind that certain importers – such as Hyundai and Kia – do not submit individual model sales figures, instead only disclosing aggregate sales stats. Mercedes-Benz, too, has taken a similar stance in recent times, while BMW SA has also just joined the non-reporting party.
Also, take note that – in order to make this list more relevant – we’ve excluded vehicles ranges that start at more than R500 000. Otherwise, this table would be dominated by luxury manufacturers such as Bentley, Ferrari and Maserati, whose high-priced vehicles traditionally sell in tiny numbers. We also don’t count the sales from run-out stock of vehicles that have been discontinued locally (you can see some examples below).
So, what happened in February 2017?
Well, Tata sold just one Manza across Mzansi over the entire month, while the Toyota Prius, Volkswagen Beetle and Volvo V60 each managed just two units.
The Ford Fusion and Peugeot 3008 sold just three units apiece, while the Infiniti Q50, Tata Vista and Toyota 86 each managed four. The Abarth 500, Mahindra Xylo and Mazda MX-5 round out the table, each registering a total of six for February.
Some of the discontinued models we didn’t take into account include the Chevrolet Sonic (1), Citroën C4 Cactus (1), Mahindra Quanto (1), Volkswagen CC (1), Renault Megane III (2, as opposed to 32 Megane IV units) and Opel Mokka (5, as opposed to 115 Mokka X units).
For reference, see January’s list here.
South Africa’s 12 worst-selling passenger cars (under R500k) of February 2017:
Tata Manza – 1
Toyota Prius – 2
Volkswagen Beetle – 2
Volvo V60 – 2
Ford Fusion – 3
Peugeot 2008 – 3
Infiniti Q50 – 4
Tata Vista – 4
Toyota 86 – 4
Abarth 500 – 6
Mahindra Xylo – 6
Mazda MX-5 – 6
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/sas-12-worst-selling-cars-under-r500k-of-feb-2017/
The monthly Naamsa stats generally make for rather interesting reading. But, naturally, we tend to focus on the best-performing vehicles in terms of sales.
Indeed, we’ve already reported the 10 best-selling passenger cars of February 2017, as well as listing the 10 best-selling bakkies in our market for the same period.
But now we’ve decided to take a look at the worst-selling passenger car models on our shores. Of course, we must bear in mind that certain importers – such as Hyundai and Kia – do not submit individual model sales figures, instead only disclosing aggregate sales stats. Mercedes-Benz, too, has taken a similar stance in recent times, while BMW SA has also just joined the non-reporting party.
Also, take note that – in order to make this list more relevant – we’ve excluded vehicles ranges that start at more than R500 000. Otherwise, this table would be dominated by luxury manufacturers such as Bentley, Ferrari and Maserati, whose high-priced vehicles traditionally sell in tiny numbers. We also don’t count the sales from run-out stock of vehicles that have been discontinued locally (you can see some examples below).
So, what happened in February 2017?
Well, Tata sold just one Manza across Mzansi over the entire month, while the Toyota Prius, Volkswagen Beetle and Volvo V60 each managed just two units.
The Ford Fusion and Peugeot 3008 sold just three units apiece, while the Infiniti Q50, Tata Vista and Toyota 86 each managed four. The Abarth 500, Mahindra Xylo and Mazda MX-5 round out the table, each registering a total of six for February.
Some of the discontinued models we didn’t take into account include the Chevrolet Sonic (1), Citroën C4 Cactus (1), Mahindra Quanto (1), Volkswagen CC (1), Renault Megane III (2, as opposed to 32 Megane IV units) and Opel Mokka (5, as opposed to 115 Mokka X units).
For reference, see January’s list here.
South Africa’s 12 worst-selling passenger cars (under R500k) of February 2017:
Tata Manza – 1
Toyota Prius – 2
Volkswagen Beetle – 2
Volvo V60 – 2
Ford Fusion – 3
Peugeot 2008 – 3
Infiniti Q50 – 4
Tata Vista – 4
Toyota 86 – 4
Abarth 500 – 6
Mahindra Xylo – 6
Mazda MX-5 – 6
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/sas-12-worst-selling-cars-under-r500k-of-feb-2017/
TheChamp
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For once the number 1 spot goes to a deserving candidate.
I know a guy who traded his Passat in on a Titanium Fusion. He didn't learn his lesson by being burnt badly resale wise with the Passat. He is going to bleed again with the Fusion. Great car, but SA's want a German or Swedish sedan for the money....
Craig_
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I'm surprised Ford sells so few of the Fusion. Pretty car. On the Passat, I expect to drive mine for a very long time. Will get very little when I want to change.
FiestaST
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UK for context...
New car sales in the UK drop in February
Private demand and diesel sales decline as new car sales suffer first drop in February since 2011
New car registrations in the UK suffered a drop in February for the first time since 2011, but there was an overall year-to-date increase of 1.8% following January's strong results, according to figures released by the Society of Motoring Manufacturers & Traders (SMMT).
Compared with February 2016, sales dropped 0.3% to 83,115 in what is traditionally one of the quietest months of the year for new car sales, with private demand suffering a 4.4% fall to 36,018 while business registrations also dropped by 5.3% to 1398.
Fleet registrations dominated February 2017 figures, with 45,699 registrations representing a 3.3% rise and there was a huge 48.9% jump in alternatively fuelled vehicle (AFV) sales in February. In total, 3308 electric, hybrid and hydrogen vehicles were registered. However, AFVs still only have a 4% market share. Petrol registrations were up by 5.8% to 42,826 units, but diesel demand dropped 9.2%.
The motoring market has enjoyed impressive growth in recent years, and there was a record nine-year January UK manufacturing high at the start of 2017. Although these figures show a slight decrease in demand, SMMT boss Mike Hawes expects the market to improve in March.
He said: “February is traditionally one of the quietest months of the year and a steady performance was expected following another year of record growth in 2016.
“We expect to see the market bounce back in March as buyers take advantage of the new 17-plate, as well as the last chance to buy a car eligible for current lower VED rates before they change on 1 April.”
The Ford Fiesta stayed at the top of the best-selling chart for February, with the Volkswagen Golf, Vauxhall Astra, Ford Focus and Nissan Qashqai completing the top five.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/new-car-sales-uk-drop-february
New car sales in the UK drop in February
Private demand and diesel sales decline as new car sales suffer first drop in February since 2011
New car registrations in the UK suffered a drop in February for the first time since 2011, but there was an overall year-to-date increase of 1.8% following January's strong results, according to figures released by the Society of Motoring Manufacturers & Traders (SMMT).
Compared with February 2016, sales dropped 0.3% to 83,115 in what is traditionally one of the quietest months of the year for new car sales, with private demand suffering a 4.4% fall to 36,018 while business registrations also dropped by 5.3% to 1398.
Fleet registrations dominated February 2017 figures, with 45,699 registrations representing a 3.3% rise and there was a huge 48.9% jump in alternatively fuelled vehicle (AFV) sales in February. In total, 3308 electric, hybrid and hydrogen vehicles were registered. However, AFVs still only have a 4% market share. Petrol registrations were up by 5.8% to 42,826 units, but diesel demand dropped 9.2%.
The motoring market has enjoyed impressive growth in recent years, and there was a record nine-year January UK manufacturing high at the start of 2017. Although these figures show a slight decrease in demand, SMMT boss Mike Hawes expects the market to improve in March.
He said: “February is traditionally one of the quietest months of the year and a steady performance was expected following another year of record growth in 2016.
“We expect to see the market bounce back in March as buyers take advantage of the new 17-plate, as well as the last chance to buy a car eligible for current lower VED rates before they change on 1 April.”
The Ford Fiesta stayed at the top of the best-selling chart for February, with the Volkswagen Golf, Vauxhall Astra, Ford Focus and Nissan Qashqai completing the top five.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/new-car-sales-uk-drop-february
FiestaST
Honorary Master
UK...
Top 10 best-selling cars in Britain
The latest list of Britain's best-selling cars hints at changing trends as well as showing the continuing popularity of some stalwarts, but what cars are at the top?
Established brands and models dominate the top 10 list of best-selling cars in the UK and the hatchback rules supreme. However, the latest sales figures show that some newer additions to Britain’s roads are growing in popularity, perhaps foreshadowing a change in preferences among buyers.
The latest figures cover the year to the end of February and show that superminis and hatchbacks are the most popular. The Ford Fiesta continues to fly out of dealerships, with the Vauxhall Corsa is chasing hard but some way behind in overall sales. The Focus is still attracting plenty of fans but not quite as many the Volkswagen Golf, which is second overall despite VW’s recent tribulations.
Nissan’s Qashqai and Juke shows the continuing popularity of small SUV, meanwhile, Vauxhall’s Mokka has been knocked out of the top 10 by the Audi A3.
The Vauxhall Astra continues to sell well and is chasing the Focus, while the Volkswagen Polo shows that there are plenty of buyers willing to pay extra for a more classy supermini.
1: Ford Fiesta – 12,777 registrations
The Fiesta has been a British favourite for decades and that shows no signs of changing, even though the latest incarnation is now eight years old. Its sales figures are well ahead of its closest rivals', even though it’s not the cheapest choice in the segment. Its sales performance is well deserved, though. The Ford supermini as hugely impressive, our four-star review proves that. We particularly like its ride and handling, interior quality and smooth engine range.
2: Volkswagen Golf – 8404 registrations
The Golf is another classic name in motoring that attracts legions of diehard fans to keep it riding high in the charts, even with Volkswagen’s recent scandal. Emissions concerns aside, the seventh-generation Golf is a consummate all-rounder. In our 4.5-star review, we called it the best hatchback in the world, and we’ll stand by that assessment.
3: Ford Focus – 6767 registrations
The Focus has delivered an outstanding drive since it replaced the Escort with aplomb in 1998, offering impressive road manners at a volume price. It has been so good, in fact, that we were slightly disappointed by the diluted dynamics of the latest version. However, as our review notes, it’s still a very appealing, complete car. It looks good, has a strong, economical engine range and offers a lot of quality for its price.
4: Vauxhall Astra - 6235 registrations
The Astra is something of an also-ran to the Ford Focus, but the latest generation, launched in 2015, is a thoroughly decent car in its own right. Well equipped with sharp handling and economical engines, it earns a strong four-star review from us, although we had reservations about its ride and styling. Overall, though, it deserves to be considered as one of the best compact hatches you can buy.
5: Mercedes-Benz C-Class - 5990 registrations
It’s unusual for a premium car to find itself in the top 10, but it’s testament to the C-Class’s appeal, particularly among fleet customers, that it’s shifting so many units for Mercedes. Looking like a miniature S-Class doesn’t hurt the latest version, which was launched in 2014. It’s an excellent offering that garnered a four-star review from our test team, who fell for its high-quality interior and alluring looks. Good residual values do it no harm, either.
6: Nissan Qashqai – 5329 registrations
Is it really a decade since Nissan’s now ubiquitous crossover first arrived? Its blend of hatchback size and SUV pretensions have proved a huge draw for customers and it’s now the best-selling small SUV in the country, leaving a trail of imitators in its wake. The second-generation model, released in 2014, keeps dynamic, economic and interior standards high, garnering a 4.5-star review from our road test team. No wonder it’s holding firm in the sales charts.
7: Vauxhall Corsa – 5260 registrations
The Corsa is another established doyen in the UK and Vauxhall’s perennial rival to the Fiesta. The latest generation arrived in 2014 and offers something for most people, from the 74bhp 1.4-litre petrol option to the 202bhp snorting VXR version. It’s competitively priced, drives and rides well and is designed and specced to please the car's large fan base. It’s hard to see it dropping far down this list anytime soon.
8: Nissan Juke - 4759 registrations
With the Qashqai being such a roaring success, it's no surprise that Nissan's other crossover - the British-built Juke - has also been a sales hit for the Japanese manufacturer. Buyers like its concept-car looks, and it's good value, too.
9: Volkswagen Polo - 4742 registrations
Volkswagen’s supermini offers a touch more class and sophistication than the Fiesta and Corsa, albeit at a higher price. It’s more mature and conservative in its demeanour, but many of the British car-buying public embrace such traits, which is why the Polo is a top 10 stalwart and scores four stars in our review. Now in its fifth generation, it could easily be mistaken for a smaller Golf, which is no bad thing.
10: Audi A3 - 4650 registrations
It's more unusual for two premium cars to crack the top ten, but the Audi A3 has done it, knocking the Vauxhall Mokka out of the running. The A3 accounts for every fifth Audi registered worldwide, and with a range of body styles to choose from including convertible, saloon, three-door and five-door hatches, as well as blistering S3 and RS3 models, it's clear to see why it has a place among the UK's best-sellers.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/top-10-best-selling-cars-britain
Top 10 best-selling cars in Britain
The latest list of Britain's best-selling cars hints at changing trends as well as showing the continuing popularity of some stalwarts, but what cars are at the top?
Established brands and models dominate the top 10 list of best-selling cars in the UK and the hatchback rules supreme. However, the latest sales figures show that some newer additions to Britain’s roads are growing in popularity, perhaps foreshadowing a change in preferences among buyers.
The latest figures cover the year to the end of February and show that superminis and hatchbacks are the most popular. The Ford Fiesta continues to fly out of dealerships, with the Vauxhall Corsa is chasing hard but some way behind in overall sales. The Focus is still attracting plenty of fans but not quite as many the Volkswagen Golf, which is second overall despite VW’s recent tribulations.
Nissan’s Qashqai and Juke shows the continuing popularity of small SUV, meanwhile, Vauxhall’s Mokka has been knocked out of the top 10 by the Audi A3.
The Vauxhall Astra continues to sell well and is chasing the Focus, while the Volkswagen Polo shows that there are plenty of buyers willing to pay extra for a more classy supermini.
1: Ford Fiesta – 12,777 registrations
The Fiesta has been a British favourite for decades and that shows no signs of changing, even though the latest incarnation is now eight years old. Its sales figures are well ahead of its closest rivals', even though it’s not the cheapest choice in the segment. Its sales performance is well deserved, though. The Ford supermini as hugely impressive, our four-star review proves that. We particularly like its ride and handling, interior quality and smooth engine range.
2: Volkswagen Golf – 8404 registrations
The Golf is another classic name in motoring that attracts legions of diehard fans to keep it riding high in the charts, even with Volkswagen’s recent scandal. Emissions concerns aside, the seventh-generation Golf is a consummate all-rounder. In our 4.5-star review, we called it the best hatchback in the world, and we’ll stand by that assessment.
3: Ford Focus – 6767 registrations
The Focus has delivered an outstanding drive since it replaced the Escort with aplomb in 1998, offering impressive road manners at a volume price. It has been so good, in fact, that we were slightly disappointed by the diluted dynamics of the latest version. However, as our review notes, it’s still a very appealing, complete car. It looks good, has a strong, economical engine range and offers a lot of quality for its price.
4: Vauxhall Astra - 6235 registrations
The Astra is something of an also-ran to the Ford Focus, but the latest generation, launched in 2015, is a thoroughly decent car in its own right. Well equipped with sharp handling and economical engines, it earns a strong four-star review from us, although we had reservations about its ride and styling. Overall, though, it deserves to be considered as one of the best compact hatches you can buy.
5: Mercedes-Benz C-Class - 5990 registrations
It’s unusual for a premium car to find itself in the top 10, but it’s testament to the C-Class’s appeal, particularly among fleet customers, that it’s shifting so many units for Mercedes. Looking like a miniature S-Class doesn’t hurt the latest version, which was launched in 2014. It’s an excellent offering that garnered a four-star review from our test team, who fell for its high-quality interior and alluring looks. Good residual values do it no harm, either.
6: Nissan Qashqai – 5329 registrations
Is it really a decade since Nissan’s now ubiquitous crossover first arrived? Its blend of hatchback size and SUV pretensions have proved a huge draw for customers and it’s now the best-selling small SUV in the country, leaving a trail of imitators in its wake. The second-generation model, released in 2014, keeps dynamic, economic and interior standards high, garnering a 4.5-star review from our road test team. No wonder it’s holding firm in the sales charts.
7: Vauxhall Corsa – 5260 registrations
The Corsa is another established doyen in the UK and Vauxhall’s perennial rival to the Fiesta. The latest generation arrived in 2014 and offers something for most people, from the 74bhp 1.4-litre petrol option to the 202bhp snorting VXR version. It’s competitively priced, drives and rides well and is designed and specced to please the car's large fan base. It’s hard to see it dropping far down this list anytime soon.
8: Nissan Juke - 4759 registrations
With the Qashqai being such a roaring success, it's no surprise that Nissan's other crossover - the British-built Juke - has also been a sales hit for the Japanese manufacturer. Buyers like its concept-car looks, and it's good value, too.
9: Volkswagen Polo - 4742 registrations
Volkswagen’s supermini offers a touch more class and sophistication than the Fiesta and Corsa, albeit at a higher price. It’s more mature and conservative in its demeanour, but many of the British car-buying public embrace such traits, which is why the Polo is a top 10 stalwart and scores four stars in our review. Now in its fifth generation, it could easily be mistaken for a smaller Golf, which is no bad thing.
10: Audi A3 - 4650 registrations
It's more unusual for two premium cars to crack the top ten, but the Audi A3 has done it, knocking the Vauxhall Mokka out of the running. The A3 accounts for every fifth Audi registered worldwide, and with a range of body styles to choose from including convertible, saloon, three-door and five-door hatches, as well as blistering S3 and RS3 models, it's clear to see why it has a place among the UK's best-sellers.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/top-10-best-selling-cars-britain
Rouxenator
Dank meme lord
You can slip it into reverse while driving : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj-lYwh9twA
Craig_
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Very believable video. If I want to change gear manually and the car decides no, you can pull that lever as much as you want, it won't change.
I dont know what your budget is but most used cars are overpriced right now.
Not a price issue - I just couldn't find sales staff interested in engaging with me at all.
cr@zydude
Honorary Master
If only. They could have built the new one out of the Figo. As things stand half tons will all be gone soon. Dacia didn't design a replacement for the NP200, so Nissan either needs to do it themselves, or sell the NP200 for the next 40 years like the did with the Champ/Sunny/1400.
chopsky
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So, given that the 'dismal' Rand has improved substantially in recent months, should we expect car prices to reflect this change?
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Nope. Won't happen.
supersunbird
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NarrowBandFtw
Honorary Master
:crylaugh: just got the annual "buy your new BMW now to avoid the price increase" email from a dealership.
You can tell they're suffering as prices are only going up 1.5%, you can also tell they're still as clueless as ever if prices are going up at all.
You can tell they're suffering as prices are only going up 1.5%, you can also tell they're still as clueless as ever if prices are going up at all.
chopsky
Expert Member
Oh come on! Trevor Noah?! That's an insult if I've ever seen one.
FiestaST
Honorary Master
Positive outlook for new vehicle sales in 2017 - Wesbank
WesBank, South Africa’s leading vehicle and asset finance provider, has forecast that 2017 will see minor growth in the new vehicle sales industry.
The past three years have seen sales decline, with 2016 sales falling a massive 11.4% - based off WesBank’s prediction that sales would tumble 12%. For 2017, WesBank expects to see overall growth of 1.74%.
The new vehicle market
This year’s forecast was delivered by WesBank CEO Chris de Kock at the 32nd SAGMJ WesBank South African Car Of The Year awards evening, in Midrand, Johannesburg last night.
The evening function took place at the new Kyalami racetrack – the same venue where this year’s Car Of The Year testing was conducted – and saw the Opel Astra being crowned as the winner.
Audi’s A4 and Volkswagen’s Passat were the first and second runners-up, respectively.
WesBank’s forecast is based on a holistic view of the new vehicle sales market. This includes considering economic factors such as the strength of the Rand, interest rate stability and moderate GDP growth and inflation falling back within the target zone.
Increase on 2016
While total industry sales should reach 557 000 units for the year - a 1.74% increase on 2016’s sales and marginal growth off a much lower base - de Kock forecasts that dealer sales would remain suppressed, especially in passenger and commercial vehicle segments. Dealer sales are expected to end 2017 0.5% weaker year-on-year, with 2% and 4.1% respective declines for passenger and commercial vehicle sales through dealers.
De Kock said: “We expect overall sales growth to be driven by government buying, as there are a number of large tenders set to be awarded in the coming months. This will account for 3.29% growth in LCV sales and help limit the sales decline for commerce vehicles. Additionally, tourism will drive the sales growth in the rental market, which will ensure 1.3% growth for passenger car sales.”
Despite a difficult past 12 months and a challenging year ahead, WesBank is confident that South Africa’s economy will see positive but subdued growth going into 2018. Inflation is expected to settle down within the upper part of the Reserve Bank’s target band, which will result in the current repo rate remaining stable at 7%. The Rand has recovered from its lows in 2016, aided by political and economic policies in global markets, and should hold its ground through to 2018.
http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Indu...or-new-vehicle-sales-in-2017-wesbank-20170316
WesBank, South Africa’s leading vehicle and asset finance provider, has forecast that 2017 will see minor growth in the new vehicle sales industry.
The past three years have seen sales decline, with 2016 sales falling a massive 11.4% - based off WesBank’s prediction that sales would tumble 12%. For 2017, WesBank expects to see overall growth of 1.74%.
The new vehicle market
This year’s forecast was delivered by WesBank CEO Chris de Kock at the 32nd SAGMJ WesBank South African Car Of The Year awards evening, in Midrand, Johannesburg last night.
The evening function took place at the new Kyalami racetrack – the same venue where this year’s Car Of The Year testing was conducted – and saw the Opel Astra being crowned as the winner.
Audi’s A4 and Volkswagen’s Passat were the first and second runners-up, respectively.
WesBank’s forecast is based on a holistic view of the new vehicle sales market. This includes considering economic factors such as the strength of the Rand, interest rate stability and moderate GDP growth and inflation falling back within the target zone.
Increase on 2016
While total industry sales should reach 557 000 units for the year - a 1.74% increase on 2016’s sales and marginal growth off a much lower base - de Kock forecasts that dealer sales would remain suppressed, especially in passenger and commercial vehicle segments. Dealer sales are expected to end 2017 0.5% weaker year-on-year, with 2% and 4.1% respective declines for passenger and commercial vehicle sales through dealers.
De Kock said: “We expect overall sales growth to be driven by government buying, as there are a number of large tenders set to be awarded in the coming months. This will account for 3.29% growth in LCV sales and help limit the sales decline for commerce vehicles. Additionally, tourism will drive the sales growth in the rental market, which will ensure 1.3% growth for passenger car sales.”
Despite a difficult past 12 months and a challenging year ahead, WesBank is confident that South Africa’s economy will see positive but subdued growth going into 2018. Inflation is expected to settle down within the upper part of the Reserve Bank’s target band, which will result in the current repo rate remaining stable at 7%. The Rand has recovered from its lows in 2016, aided by political and economic policies in global markets, and should hold its ground through to 2018.
http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Indu...or-new-vehicle-sales-in-2017-wesbank-20170316
