The SA Vehicle Industry Thread

Toyota president feeling the heat as profits decline

Earlier this year we reported that Toyota had been toppled as the world’s largest automotive manufacturer, making way for Volkswagen AG. According to Toyota Motor Corporation President Akio Toyoda, the brand is now experiencing a sense of crisis due to a decline in profits.

Widely attributed to an instability of foreign exchange rates and increased costs of development, Toyota’s fourth fiscal quarter operating profits (until 31 March 2017) had tumbled by 20% to R532 billion, while net income fell by 6,6% to R483 billion, Automotive News reports.

Revenue, on the other hand, increased by 6,8% to R902 billion. This after global retail sales (including Lexus, Daihatsu and Hino) increased by 3,1% to 2,5 million units in the first quarter. Yet the slump experienced in the final quarter had a detrimental effect, thus ending its full-year profit streak from previous years.

In terms of the full fiscal year, operating profits had fallen by 30% to R346 billion with a 21% net income drop to R280 billion. This equated to a total revenue decline of 2,8% to R2,2 trillion; despite seeing a global retail unit sales increase of 1,6% to 10,3 million units and a worldwide wholesale delivery advance of 3,3% to 9 million units.

Speaking at the full-year results conference on Wednesday, Toyoda-san expressed concern as the company is likely to experience a second consecutive year of falling profits.

“I feel a strong sense of crisis about whether or not we are actually executing car-making from the perspective of the customer in all Toyota workplaces, from development, production, procurement and sales, all the way to administrative divisions,” Toyoda said.

This bears a slight similarity to Gazoo Racing chief, Tetsuya Tada’s comments regarding previous products from Toyota being somewhat dull.

Toyoda-san expressed support towards the more exciting vehicles currently being produced by Toyota; this includes the new C-HR, which makes use of the Toyota New Global Architecture. Despite this, he adds that the company needs to improve the competitiveness of these vehicles.

As mentioned before, profits were weakened by a struggling exchange rate which constituted towards R114 billion of losses. Increased research and development into the TNGA, among other projects, contributed to an additional loss of R64,2 billion.

Although Toyota saw an increase of sales in Japan, it experienced a decline in the North American and European markets. Despite this, North America remains Toyota’s largest market with 2,8 million units sold in the last fiscal year.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/toyota-president-feeling-the-heat-as-profits-decline/
 
He said: “Until now, there were times when Toyota’s cars were called ‘boring’ or were said to be lacking in character."

Always good when the top guys realize how their products are perceived.
 
Toyota CEO insists his cars are not ‘boring’

Yesterday, we reported that Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda was beginning to feel the pressure of the group’s declining global profits. Adding to this, Toyoda-san has expressed concern towards those who label the current line-up, ‘boring’.

Toyoda told reporters at Wednesday’s conference, “until now, there were times when Toyota’s cars were called ‘boring’ or were said to be lacking in character, but I now feel that, in terms of driving and design, our customers have begun to favourably evaluate our cars.” He also acknowledged, however, that there is still room for improvement.

“It is my view that our latest financial results demonstrate Toyota’s desire to steadily and continuously advance our investment in the future, rather than place top priority on short-term profit,” he added in relation to the declining profits.

Toyoda-san also mentioned that the company is preparing itself for the shift to autonomous driving cars which places an additional strain on finances.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/toyota-ceo-insists-his-cars-are-not-boring/
 
China auto sales shrink in April as demand cools sharply

An industry group says China's auto sales shrank in April as demand slowed sharply in the world's biggest car market.

The China Association of Automobile Manufacturers said Thursday (May 11) that sales of passenger cars, including minivans and SUVs, fell 3.7% in April over the same period a year ago to 1.7-million.

That's down from a 1.7% sales growth in March.

The association said sport utility vehicles were the only segment that grew, with sales rising 11.1% over a year ago to 684 400.

Auto demand in China has been cooling since Beijing raised a sales tax at the start of the year.

The group said April was a weak month for China's auto market, with production and sales both falling significantly.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Indu...ink-in-april-as-demand-cools-sharply-20170511
 
Zero units of this sold last month...

This is the poverty spec Comfort model ie. No infotainment system.

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it's scary when basically an everyday car is sitting at the cost of a smallish home. Welcome to SA everybody, your car can end up costing more than your house. Yet I've got to get a 20 year loan to pay of R600 000 and that's around R6k a month, how much would a freaking R600 000 car cost?

Edit: Just worked it out, R14k to pay it off, I mean who honestly has that and car manufacturers better relook at this pricing issue. No wonder people have to get balloon payments. At just under R400k for the poverty model you're still putting down R9k? You could get a million rand place for that a month.
 
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Toyota is in an odd predicament where they've alienated the existing customer base by upping the price on newer models but not really increasing the power or comfort trim. So why upgrade? Just for looks?

Right now if a Toyota owner had to upgrade his existing Corolla, they should be looking at a second hand German sedan for the same value.

Well Toyota is a comfortable and well priced car adequately powered for the price, maybe the question should be: why do people have a problem with paying for the value it offers , because it's a Toyota?

I would appreciate your thought on this, the highset spec Corolla is comparable to a BMW 318 in features, might even have more, similar power figures 103kW compared to the Beemer 100kW, albeit low on torque since it's a NA, yet the Toyota is R139200 cheaper than the BMW, again why should you have issues paying that much less for a similarly specced Toyota?
 
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Well Toyota is a comfortable and well priced car adequately powered for the price, maybe the question should be: why do people have a problem with paying for the value it offers , because it's a oyota?

I would appreciate your thought on this, the highset spec Corolla is comparable to a BMW 318 in features, might even have more similar power figures 103kW compared to the Beemer, albeit low on torque since it's a NA, yet the Toyota is R139200 cheaper than the BMW, again why should you have issues paying that much less for a similarly specced Toyota?

It might have some similar features, but the built quality is nowhere near the same. I drove in a friends new corolla 1.4 d4d recently, good car, quiet inside and smooth. Feels well built. Until you open the boot and you see and feel how tinny that is. Carpeting was also a bit shoddy.

Although, I was very impressed with how quiet it sounds. Inside the cabin it was admittedly good.
 
It might have some similar features, but the built quality is nowhere near the same. I drove in a friends new corolla 1.4 d4d recently, good car, quiet inside and smooth. Feels well built. Until you open the boot and you see and feel how tinny that is. Carpeting was also a bit shoddy.

Although, I was very impressed with how quiet it sounds. Inside the cabin it was admittedly good.

I can live with a tinny boot and shoddy carpeting, but with R 139 200 in my back pocket.
 
It might have some similar features, but the built quality is nowhere near the same. I drove in a friends new corolla 1.4 d4d recently, good car, quiet inside and smooth. Feels well built. Until you open the boot and you see and feel how tinny that is. Carpeting was also a bit shoddy.

Although, I was very impressed with how quiet it sounds. Inside the cabin it was admittedly good.

Do you think if they took that little R139k change to fix those people will gladly pay R488600 for it? And do you think it's overpriced for what it offers?

edit* the d4d is less expensive as well, more value for you and more money in your pocket.
 
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Do you think if they took that little R139k change to fix those people will gladly pay R488600 for it? And do you think it's overpriced for what it offers?

edit* the d4d is less expensive as well, more value for you and more money in your pocket.

At the price I think it's good value. But that doesn't mean there isn't a place for the more expensive cars. They have their place as well.
 
Car lineups with all manufacturers are going to be culled with the way things are going. You need to sell a good volume to make up marketing , spare part stocking costs, etc.

Cars are way overpriced and we in this vicious circle where prices are inflated to 'include' maintenance plan which dealers then use to replace parts willy nilly when under plan or owners wanting to get money's worth by requesting it causing manufacturers to increase pricing again as a result. It's amazing how proactive dealers are when car in in plan or a fleet company is paying


It's hard to find these maintenance plans in other countries. This bubble needs to pricked. It's going to leave a big fat eina but we need let it happen.

Was checking out a tiguan last week, pricing nearly killed me but in the convo, the sales person told me that Jetta is also end of life next year in SA and to be replaced by a polo of some sort. It was at a Barons VW..
 
Car lineups with all manufacturers are going to be culled with the way things are going. You need to sell a good volume to make up marketing , spare part stocking costs, etc.

Cars are way overpriced and we in this vicious circle where prices are inflated to 'include' maintenance plan which dealers then use to replace parts willy nilly when under plan or owners wanting to get money's worth by requesting it causing manufacturers to increase pricing again as a result. It's amazing how proactive dealers are when car in in plan or a fleet company is paying


It's hard to find these maintenance plans in other countries. This bubble needs to pricked. It's going to leave a big fat eina but we need let it happen.

Was checking out a tiguan last week, pricing nearly killed me but in the convo, the sales person told me that Jetta is also end of life next year in SA and to be replaced by a polo of some sort. It was at a Barons VW..

Probably going to inflate the price of the current Polo and sell it as a replacement for the Jetta.
 
Been away for a few days. Thought I would at least catch a sip of a GM fanbooi's tears in here after the GM pull out....
 
Been away for a few days. Thought I would at least catch a sip of a GM fanbooi's tears in here after the GM pull out....

It's great news. Isuzu - makers of the best bakkies ever - will take over, Opel is safe in the hands of PSA. Losing a couple of rebadged Deawoos is good news indeed.
 
30 best-selling vehicles in the world in Q1 of 2017

The statistically minded folks over at Jato Dynamics have revealed the 30 best-selling vehicles in the world for the first quarter of 2017.

In the first three months of this year, China again proved to be the largest automotive market, with 6 184 706 units (up five percent) registered, according to Jato’s figures. The United States came in second with 4 026 256 units and Japan third on 1 553 605.

So, which were the best-selling vehicles across the globe in Q1? Well, rather predictably, the Ford F-Series pick-up truck took first place, with the Toyota Corolla having to settle for second. The final spot on the podium went to the Nissan X-Trail.

The Volkswagen Golf slotted in at number four, with the Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Wuling Hongguang, Volkswagen Tiguan, Toyota RAV4 and Honda HR-V completing the top 10.

The Ford Kuga placed 13th, one ahead of the Volkswagen Polo, while the Suzuki Swift and Hyundai Tucson just about squeezed into the top 20. Check out the full top 30 list below…

World’s best-selling vehicles in Q1 2017:

1. Ford F-Series – 243 978
2. Toyota Corolla – 214 618
3. Nissan X-Trail/Rogue – 212 244
4. Volkswagen Golf – 209 764
5. Honda Civic – 178 605
6. Honda CR-V – 177 473
7. Wuling Hongguang – 175 945
8. Volkswagen Tiguan – 172 623
9. Toyota RAV4 – 170 362
10. Honda HR-V/XR-V/Vezel – 167 051
11. Ford Focus – 166 290
12. Hyundai Elantra/Avante/i35 – 159 112
13. Ford Kuga/Escape – 153 835
14. Volkswagen Polo – 148 331
15. Dodge Ram – 145 326
16. Chevrolet Silverado – 142 705
17. Toyota Camry/Aurion – 131 807
18. Volkswagen Lavida – 130 032
19. Suzuki Swift – 128 025
20. Hyundai Tucson – 127 587
21. Mercedes-Benz C-Class – 127 485
22. Volkswagen Jetta/Bora/Sagitar/Vento – 127 179
23. Ford Fiesta – 125 625
24. Nissan Qashqai/Rogue Sport – 124 996
25. Haval/Hover H6 – 119 946
26. Honda Jazz/Fit – 109 949
27. Mazda3/Axela – 108 808
28. Honda Accord – 108 613
29. Skoda Octavia – 103 378
30. Volkswagen Passat/Magotan – 102 067

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/30-best-selling-vehicles-in-the-world-in-q1-of-2017/
 
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