The SA Vehicle Industry Thread

[FiestaST]

Interesting, but it's not really about engine size anymore, is it? That's like saying 8 MOST EXPENSIVE VEHICLES WITH LEATHER SEATS IN SA.

True but at a point it does matter.

Case in point. Over R1.4mill for a super luxury Jaaaaag XJ & only a 4-pot motor? Does not compute.

 

[FiestaST]

Dealership Labour Rates: How Much Brands Charge in SA

Data specialists Lightstone Consumer have conducted an independent study among all major automotive manufacturers in South Africa to determine the current labour rates charged at franchised dealers. Consumers should find the results both interesting and insightful, take a look!

Lightstone Consumer has released results of its latest independent dealer labour rate study conducted in April 2017. The study incorporates telephonic interviews with Service Managers from 897 Passenger and Light Commercial Vehicle (LCV) dealerships from 37 car brands across South Africa. More so, the study accounts for the Warranty Labour Rate, Maintenance/Service Plan Labour Rate and the Retail Labour Rate.

It’s important to note that most new cars are sold with maintenance plans and vehicle owners are therefore rarely familiar with Maintenance/Service Plan or Warranty Labour Rates, which are reimbursed to the dealers on completion of maintenance or warranty work. The Retail Labour Rate, however, is the rate charged for work on a vehicle that doesn’t have a maintenance/service plan or in cases where the maintenance plan has expired. The Retail Labour Rate is therefore of particular interest to the consumer.

The survey results reveal labour rates as high as R1 000 and as low as R300 and the values vary depending on the brand and location of the dealership. Land Rover has the highest average retail labour rate of R814, while Mini comes in close second at with an average rate of R812. Jaguar is the third most expensive car brand with an average labour rate of R802. BMW and Audi charge an average amount of R790 and R769 respectively.

When Lightstone Consumer initially released its Dealer Labour Rates data back in August 2016, the Top 5 most expensive car brands were Audi (R847), Jaguar (R832), Land Rover (R809), Mini (R755) and BMW (R745).

At the lower end of the spectrum, GWM offers the cheapest average retail labour rate of all at R445, followed by Chery at R451, Tata at R456, Foton at R465 and Mahindra at R470.

http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news...-much-brands-charge-in-sa/43518/#.WT5qMFV95hE

Most expensive to cheapest labour rates in South Africa:

 

[Craig_]

Dealership Labour Rates: How Much Brands Charge in SA

Data specialists Lightstone Consumer have conducted an independent study among all major automotive manufacturers in South Africa to determine the current labour rates charged at franchised dealers. Consumers should find the results both interesting and insightful, take a look!

Lightstone Consumer has released results of its latest independent dealer labour rate study conducted in April 2017. The study incorporates telephonic interviews with Service Managers from 897 Passenger and Light Commercial Vehicle (LCV) dealerships from 37 car brands across South Africa. More so, the study accounts for the Warranty Labour Rate, Maintenance/Service Plan Labour Rate and the Retail Labour Rate.

It’s important to note that most new cars are sold with maintenance plans and vehicle owners are therefore rarely familiar with Maintenance/Service Plan or Warranty Labour Rates, which are reimbursed to the dealers on completion of maintenance or warranty work. The Retail Labour Rate, however, is the rate charged for work on a vehicle that doesn’t have a maintenance/service plan or in cases where the maintenance plan has expired. The Retail Labour Rate is therefore of particular interest to the consumer.

The survey results reveal labour rates as high as R1 000 and as low as R300 and the values vary depending on the brand and location of the dealership. Land Rover has the highest average retail labour rate of R814, while Mini comes in close second at with an average rate of R812. Jaguar is the third most expensive car brand with an average labour rate of R802. BMW and Audi charge an average amount of R790 and R769 respectively.

When Lightstone Consumer initially released its Dealer Labour Rates data back in August 2016, the Top 5 most expensive car brands were Audi (R847), Jaguar (R832), Land Rover (R809), Mini (R755) and BMW (R745).

At the lower end of the spectrum, GWM offers the cheapest average retail labour rate of all at R445, followed by Chery at R451, Tata at R456, Foton at R465 and Mahindra at R470.

http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news...-much-brands-charge-in-sa/43518/#.WT5qMFV95hE

Most expensive to cheapest labour rates in South Africa:

Interesting, our little up goes in for it's service tomorrow, will check after the service how the local rate here compares to that average.

 

[Craig_]

Dealership Labour Rates: How Much Brands Charge in SA

Data specialists Lightstone Consumer have conducted an independent study among all major automotive manufacturers in South Africa to determine the current labour rates charged at franchised dealers. Consumers should find the results both interesting and insightful, take a look!

Lightstone Consumer has released results of its latest independent dealer labour rate study conducted in April 2017. The study incorporates telephonic interviews with Service Managers from 897 Passenger and Light Commercial Vehicle (LCV) dealerships from 37 car brands across South Africa. More so, the study accounts for the Warranty Labour Rate, Maintenance/Service Plan Labour Rate and the Retail Labour Rate.

It’s important to note that most new cars are sold with maintenance plans and vehicle owners are therefore rarely familiar with Maintenance/Service Plan or Warranty Labour Rates, which are reimbursed to the dealers on completion of maintenance or warranty work. The Retail Labour Rate, however, is the rate charged for work on a vehicle that doesn’t have a maintenance/service plan or in cases where the maintenance plan has expired. The Retail Labour Rate is therefore of particular interest to the consumer.

The survey results reveal labour rates as high as R1 000 and as low as R300 and the values vary depending on the brand and location of the dealership. Land Rover has the highest average retail labour rate of R814, while Mini comes in close second at with an average rate of R812. Jaguar is the third most expensive car brand with an average labour rate of R802. BMW and Audi charge an average amount of R790 and R769 respectively.

When Lightstone Consumer initially released its Dealer Labour Rates data back in August 2016, the Top 5 most expensive car brands were Audi (R847), Jaguar (R832), Land Rover (R809), Mini (R755) and BMW (R745).

At the lower end of the spectrum, GWM offers the cheapest average retail labour rate of all at R445, followed by Chery at R451, Tata at R456, Foton at R465 and Mahindra at R470.

http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news...-much-brands-charge-in-sa/43518/#.WT5qMFV95hE

Most expensive to cheapest labour rates in South Africa:

The labour rate at my local dealer where I serviced today came to R750 per hour. R92 per hour more then the VW average for the country. Quite expensive actually.

 

[FiestaST]

The labour rate at my local dealer where I serviced today came to R750 per hour. R92 per hour more then the VW average for the country. Quite expensive actually.

So the list is right then lol

 

[A3@MBB]

The labour rate at my local dealer where I serviced today came to R750 per hour. R92 per hour more then the VW average for the country. Quite expensive actually.

Hopefully 10% will be paid to the mechanic doing the actual work. The remainder is all recoupment of overheads.
Actually shocking to work out the potential income a average service centre can generate in a month just with "labour" @ R750p/h

 

[Craig_]

They billed the service plan for 2.1 hours. very expensive for a service. Came to just over R3600.

 

[kripstoe]

Hopefully 10% will be paid to the mechanic doing the actual work. The remainder is all recoupment of overheads.
Actually shocking to work out the potential income a average service centre can generate in a month just with "labour" @ R750p/h

Overheads are high.

 

[stroller]

One needs to look at two aspects of the costs of servicing a vehicle.

The first being being the labour rate as discussed above. At R600.00/hour or better still @ R10.00/minute.
This rate is rarely applied to the actual time the technician works.

The second aspect of cost is that this rate is applied to the number of hours the job is rated at, regardless of how long the technician actually takes to do the job.


It is not about what the hourly rate is but more about the number of hours charged for the job.

 

[shooter69]

They billed the service plan for 2.1 hours. very expensive for a service. Came to just over R3600.

Major service on my Mahindra Thar(4x4) came to R2800 at Mahindra dealer.
Minor service was R1500(10000km service).

 

[Craig_]

Major service on my Mahindra Thar(4x4) came to R2800 at Mahindra dealer.
Minor service was R1500(10000km service).

That's relatively affordable, even on my Tdi DSG Passat major services is cheaper, excluding the gearbox oil service every 60k km. I'm not really sure why the up was so expensive, and R1500 of the total bill was labour. My wife's previous 6R Polo was also very cheap to service.

 

[bandooq]

Yesterday I found out a Nissan dealership in Welkom was selling a brand new Nissan 2.4 DC high rider for R219,000.00, marked down from R324,000.00.

Called a saleman friend at another Nissan dealership on the north coast only to be told that they can do the same deal.
That's a mark up of R105,000.00. Ridiculous.

 

[satanboy]

I really don't get a a few of your blokes hate on the i3.

Besides the price it's a very very clever piece of forward thinking. It obviously won't suit everyone's lifestyle or requirements but if it fits with your commute it's a properly "cool" car with a number of usp's.

Looks are subjective as well. You will get people who like the space-age design.

Inside yes, outside is just wrong.

 

[FlashSA]

Yesterday I found out a Nissan dealership in Welkom was selling a brand new Nissan 2.4 DC high rider for R219,000.00, marked down from R324,000.00.

Called a saleman friend at another Nissan dealership on the north coast only to be told that they can do the same deal.
That's a mark up of R105,000.00. Ridiculous.

I assume you are referring to Hardbody's? I have known this for some time. The rental companies have been buying them for sub R200k for years (I have a family member who owns a rental fleet). The technology is so old, the dies etc have long paid for themselves that the Hardbody has become their second, and proper cash cow (see what I did there?)!

 

[PhireSide]

Aren't there some police vehicles that still use Hardbody's in their fleet? I know most new police bakkies are Rangers but I do see a shiny Nisssan every now and then

 

[TheChamp]

Aren't there some police vehicles that still use Hardbody's in their fleet? I know most new police bakkies are Rangers but I do see a shiny Nisssan every now and then

There are, lots of them.

 

[handyman007]

I assume you are referring to Hardbody's? I have known this for some time. The rental companies have been buying them for sub R200k for years (I have a family member who owns a rental fleet). The technology is so old, the dies etc have long paid for themselves that the Hardbody has become their second, and proper cash cow (see what I did there?)!

Have seen this as well. Why don't Nissan lower the list price on their website as well? Some people don't know where to find a price other than on the official dealer website.

 

[TheChamp]

Have seen this as well. Why don't Nissan lower the list price on their website as well? Some people don't know where to find a price other than on the official dealer website.

No reason why the can't make a few extra thousand rands on an unsuspecting customer.

 

[handyman007]

No reason why the can't make a few extra thousand rands on an unsuspecting customer.

True. I just feel they will sell up a storm if they actively market the double cab brand new from R 219 900. That's entry level hatchback money.

 

[bandooq]

Everyone should boycott buying new vehicles for a while and see the prices at the dealerships drop drastically as a result.