The SA Vehicle Industry Thread

terencej said:
So car prices will increase by 3 things out of this budget speech. Mother f.....rs. There goes my dream of a double cab in the near future.
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Why? Just buy second hand and give them the finger. Might even be able to better afford it.
Don't understand why people complain about new car prices, when their is a plethora of second hand, low mileage, "As good as new" cars for sale, out there. If you complain about the price of a car, then clearly you're trying to buy above your income level.

I always buy second hand. Only made the mistake once, of buying new.
 
beans100 said:
Why? Just buy second hand and give them the finger. Might even be able to better afford it.
Don't understand why people complain about new car prices, when their is a plethora of second hand, low mileage, "As good as new" cars for sale, out there. If you complain about the price of a car, then clearly you're trying to buy above your income level.

I always buy second hand. Only made the mistake once, of buying new.
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If you think that an increase in new car prices won’t affect the second hand market l, you’re far more optimistic than reality would suggest is reasonable.
 
beans100 said:
If you complain about the price of a car, then clearly you're trying to buy above your income level.
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So sick of everyone throwing this line around when someone complains about the price of anything on this forum. Please find a better tune to sing because this is getting old!
 
beans100 said:
Why? Just buy second hand and give them the finger. Might even be able to better afford it.
Don't understand why people complain about new car prices, when their is a plethora of second hand, low mileage, "As good as new" cars for sale, out there. If you complain about the price of a car, then clearly you're trying to buy above your income level.

I always buy second hand. Only made the mistake once, of buying new.
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Second hand price are partly priced according to the price of new cars.

If less people can buy new, it will create more demand for second hand meaning that the market will adjust and the second hand prices increase.
 
There's no denying that most cars are more expensive in SA than other countries.

My favourite example being the Ford Mustang GT V8 coining in at R861,900 while the same steed coins in at just a bit over R605,000 in Australia. As far as I can tell, the specs are the same as there are no extras available for purchase.

There are other examples but the difference in base spec on other vehicles makes it a bit less obvious.
 
reactor_sa said:
There's no denying that most cars are more expensive in SA than other countries.

My favourite example being the Ford Mustang GT V8 coining in at R861,900 while the same steed coins in at just a bit over R605,000 in Australia. As far as I can tell, the specs are the same as there are no extras available for purchase.

There are other examples but the difference in base spec on other vehicles makes it a bit less obvious.
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https://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/models/
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$25 585 x R11.52 = R294 739.20
 
South Africa’s 10 best-selling bakkies of Feb 2018

The sales figures for the second month of 2018 are in … and whopping 1 116 units separate the top two vehicles as the battle for the title of South Africa’s best-selling bakkie continues.

So, exactly what happened in terms of bakkies sales in February 2018?

Well, the Toyota Hilux retained top spot (after beating the Ford Ranger by 426 units in January 2018), with the Ranger having to settle for a distant second.

The Nissan NP200 held onto third, while the Isuzu KB also managed to hold steady in fourth. The Nissan NP300 was fifth yet again, while the Toyota Land Cruiser Pick-up retained sixth.

The recently updated Mahindra Pik-Up kept seventh, while the GWM Steed moved up one place to eighth, pushing the Volkswagen Amarok down to ninth. The Nissan Navara again settled for the final spot on the list.

That means there’s no room for the Mazda BT-50 (83), Mahindra Bolero (62), Fiat Fullback (38) or Mitsubishi Triton (32) in February.

See the top ten list below, and have a look at January 2018’s figures here.

South Africa’s 10 best-selling bakkies of February 2018:

1. Toyota Hilux – 3 369
2. Ford Ranger – 2 253
3. Nissan NP200 – 1 690
4. Isuzu KB – 1 216
5. Nissan NP300 – 886
6. Toyota Land Cruiser Pick-up – 247
7. Mahindra Pik-Up – 214
8. GWM Steed – 178
9. Volkswagen Amarok – 162
10. Nissan Navara – 129

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/south-africas-10-best-selling-bakkies-of-feb-2018/
 
SA new vehicle sales slide continues

South African new-vehicle sales continued their weaker trend, with last month’s sales down 3.8 percent compared to February last year.

Overall, the 46 347 cars, light commercial vehicles and trucks sold declined by 1 854 vehicles versus February 2017. Export sales also dropped from 29 154 to 27 437 vehicles – a 5.8 percent decline compared with the same month last year.

Light commercials were affected the worst, with the 13 212 units sold last month down 9.6 percent from the 14 622 of February 2017. Car sales were only 0.4 percent down, registering 31 200 sales compared to 31 323 in the same month last year.

Sales in the low-volume medium and heavy truck segments remained under pressure and at 574 units and 1 361 units respectively, recorded a respective falls of 13.4 percent and 14.6 percent.

Most sales (84 percent) were through dealers, with 9.7 percent going to the rental industry, 3.7 percent to industry corporate fleets and 2.6 percent to government.

Commenting on the sales, the National Association of Automobile Manufacturers of SA (Naamsa) said the recent improvement in the Reserve Bank’s leading indicator and further recent increases in the Purchasing Manager’s Index anticipated an improved outlook for the economy over the medium term.

It said that replacement demand and reduced vehicle price inflation, as a result of the stronger rand, should support new vehicle sales in the months ahead.

The association also expects the recent positive political developments and improved business confidence to lead to higher economic growth in 2018.

However, the increase in Value Added Tax, vehicle emissions taxes, the substantially higher ad valorem duty for premium luxury vehicles priced above R900 000, as well as the substantial increase in the fuel levy would impact on consumers’ disposable income and could impact new vehicle sales from April, 2018 onwards.

30 TOP SELLING VEHICLES FEBRUARY 2018

1. Toyota Hilux 3369
2. VW Polo 2847
3. Ford Ranger 2253
4. VW Polo Vivo 2044
5. Nissan NP200 1690
6. Toyota Quantum 1361
7. Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest 1302
8. Isuzu KB 1216
9. Hyundai Grand i10 1008
10. Toyota Fortuner 1006
11. Toyota Etios 990
12. Nissan NP300 886
13. Ford Ecosport 814
14. Ford Figo 775
15. Kia Picanto 686
16. Datsun Go 591
17. Renault Kwid 582
18. Ford Fiesta 572
19. Toyota Yaris 557
20. Ford Focus 553
21. BMW 3 Series 506
22. VW Tiguan 498
23. Hyundai i20 493
24. Renault Clio 482
25. VW Golf 451
26. Hyundai Tucson 450
27. Hyundai Creta 443
28. Kia Rio 438
29. Ford Everest 393
30. Mazda CX-5 363

Figures don’t include BMW and GWM, who don’t reveal their monthly sales

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/sa-new-vehicle-sales-slide-continues-13545911
 
terencej said:
So sick of everyone throwing this line around when someone complains about the price of anything on this forum. Please find a better tune to sing because this is getting old!
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And then they also say you must keep your car until it breaks
 
Peugeot did ok this month but Volvo seems to be declining maybe people are waiting for the XC40 and XC60
 
FiestaST said:
30 TOP SELLING VEHICLES FEBRUARY 2018

1. Toyota Hilux 3369
2. VW Polo 2847
3. Ford Ranger 2253
4. VW Polo Vivo 2044
5. Nissan NP200 1690
6. Toyota Quantum 1361
7. Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest 1302
8. Isuzu KB 1216
9. Hyundai Grand i10 1008
10. Toyota Fortuner 1006
11. Toyota Etios 990
12. Nissan NP300 886
13. Ford Ecosport 814
14. Ford Figo 775
15. Kia Picanto 686
16. Datsun Go 591
17. Renault Kwid 582
18. Ford Fiesta 572
19. Toyota Yaris 557
20. Ford Focus 553
21. BMW 3 Series 506
22. VW Tiguan 498
23. Hyundai i20 493
24. Renault Clio 482
25. VW Golf 451
26. Hyundai Tucson 450
27. Hyundai Creta 443
28. Kia Rio 438
29. Ford Everest 393
30. Mazda CX-5 363

Figures don’t include BMW and GWM, who don’t reveal their monthly sales

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/sa-new-vehicle-sales-slide-continues-13545911
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Number 21 is literally a BMW.
 
SA car sales: New Polo, Polo Vivo take charge

Volkswagen's new Polo and Polo Vivo lead local sales in February, reports Naamsa. We list the best-selling cars in South Africa.

The automotive giant launched all-new generations of its month popular vehicles earlier in 2018.

The bigger, and more premium, the new Polo topped the sales chart with a staggering figure of 2847 units, making it the second-best selling vehicle for the month of February behind the Toyota Hilux (3369 units).

The new Polo Vivo, now in its second generation, ended the month with 2044 units.

David beats Goliath

Taking its customary position behind the two leaders is the Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest with 1302 units. In fourth place, and making quite a jump up the order, is the new Hyundai Grand i10, launched in February 2018. The Korean hatchback found favour among 1008 buyers, narrowly beating another regular top five contender, the Toyota Fortuner (1006 units).

The Toyota Etios missed out on the 1000-mark with 990 units sold but is still someway clear of seventh placed Ford EcoSport (814 units). Another Ford, the Figo, slips into eighth place with 775 units, ahead of the Kia Picanto (686 units) and Datsun Go (591 units) in tenth.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/SA_v...lo-polo-vivo-take-charge-in-february-20180302

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SA’s 10 best-selling passenger cars of February 2018

February 2018’s aggregate new vehicle sales in South Africa came in at 46 347 units or a decline of 3,8% year-on-year, according to Naamsa.

As always, it’s also interesting to take a look at what’s happening in terms of individual model sales. We’ve already examined the figures and picked out the 10 best-selling bakkies for the month, and now it’s time to do the same with the passenger vehicle market.

Interestingly, BMW has opted to resume the release of its individual model sales figures, while certain other automakers – most notably German rival Mercedes-Benz – still disclose only aggregate sales statistics. Kia and Hyundai also thankfully started releasing their individual model sales figures a few months ago, which makes the picture a little clearer.

So, what happened in the second month of 2018? Well, the new Volkswagen Polo bounced back from sixth place in January (due to the switch to the latest generation) to grab the top spot. The Polo Vivo, meanwhile, fell one to second, after itself undergoing a change-over to the new generation in February.

Toyota’s combination of the Corolla, Auris and Corolla Quest (the brand reports an overall figure rather than individual model sales) dropped one to third, while the rejigged Hyundai Grand i10 range climbed a spot to fourth. The Toyota Fortuner fell one place to fifth and the Etios dropped three to sixth.

The Ford EcoSport re-entered the table to snaffle seventh, with its Figo stablemate likewise returning to take eighth. The Kia Picanto held steady in ninth, while the Datsun GO crept back onto the table to grab the final spot.

Other odds and ends

So, how did BMW do, now that the Munich-based brand is reporting full sales figures again? Well, its best seller was (predictably) the 3 Series with 506 units, while the X3 was next in line with a total of 134. The 1 Series (107) was the only other BMW-badged model to break three figures, with the i3 electric car securing 17 registrations. Mini’s best performer, meanwhile, was the Countryman (58).

Alfa Romeo’s local woes continued, with just a single example of the Giulia sold, along with a mere eight units of the Stelvio. In contrast, Ford enjoyed strong performances from the Fiesta (572), Focus (553) and Everest (393). The Kuga, meanwhile, improved to 94 units and the Mustang added a further 59.

The Jazz (160) proved to be Honda’s top seller in February, while Hyundai benefited from strong contributions from the i20 (493), Tucson (450) and Creta (443). Jaguar registered 52 examples of its F-Pace, while the top performers for Land Rover were the Discovery Sport (91) and Range Rover Velar (88).

The Rio (438) was Kia’s second-most popular product behind the Picanto, while the Sportage reached 202 units. Mazda’s top dog was the CX-5 (363), while Nissan reported good showings from the Almera (344), Micra (315), X-Trail (284) and recently refreshed Qashqai (278).

Opel registered 231 vehicles in February, with the Corsa (88) leading the way, while Peugeot managed 135 units, 74 of which came courtesy of the 208 hatchback. Porsche sold as many as 34 examples of its 911, along with 30 units of the Cayenne.

The Kwid (582) only just missed out on a top ten spot, while the Clio (482), Sandero (243), Captur (233) and Duster (214) all contributed gamely to Renault’s cause. Ferrari, meanwhile, registered as many as seven examples of its 812 Superfast.

Subaru just about cracked the 100-unit mark, with the XV (37) doing the heaviest lifting, while Suzuki sold 493 units of the outgoing Swift and 213 examples of its Ignis to set a new monthly sales record for the brand. Toyota’s switch from the Euro-spec Yaris to the Asian model appeared to pay immediate dividends, with 557 units registered in the month. Interestingly, however, the RAV4 plummeted from 871 units in January to just 189 units in February.

The Tiguan (498) and Golf (451) again performed admirably for Volkswagen, while the Q5 improved to 117 units for Audi. Unusually, the XC90 (44) proved to be Volvo’s top seller for the month.

See the top ten table below (and have a look back at January 2018’s figures here):

South Africa’s 10 best-selling passengers cars of February 2018:

1) Volkswagen Polo – 2 847
2) Volkswagen Polo Vivo – 2 044
3) Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest – 1 302
4) Hyundai Grand i10 – 1 008
5) Toyota Fortuner – 1 006
6) Toyota Etios – 990
7) Ford EcoSport – 814
8) Ford Figo – 775
9) Kia Picanto – 686
10) Datsun GO – 591

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/sas-10-best-selling-passenger-cars-of-february-2018/
 
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