The Sandy Hook Elementary School Shootings

I was going to get into a long response, but then realised I just don't give a damn (especially on a Friday night). Trying to debate a topic like gun control in response to shootings on a forum is pretty pointless, better to do it in person with a case of beers.
 
Re: Shooting at Connecticut school. 27 dead including 18 children

Just when I thought the Oregon mall shooting was bad someone else comes along and ruins the week even further. :(
 
Well that's a win for gun control... Have we had a situation similar to this in SA? How does a retard get hold of a gun? are they allowed to own one?
 
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Scooby_Doo said:
Well that's a win for gun control... Have we had a situation similar to this in SA? How does a retard get hold of a gun? are they allowed to own one?
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Im sure a lot more people die here bec of guns regardless of the situation
 
Shooting at Connecticut school. 27 dead including 18 children

hugo69er said:
Im sure a lot more people die here bec of guns regardless of the situation
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Pretty sure I recall some pro-gun person on here stating that a lot more people die from knives and blunt force trauma than guns here.
 
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"I mean if ... look, if
somebody ... if a cricketer, for instance,
suddenly decided to go into a school and
batter a lot of people to death with a
cricket bat which he could do very easily,
I mean are you going to ban cricket
bats?"

- Prince Philip
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America, **** yeah!

On a more serious note, these shootings are definitely a trend in America. I'd love to know if there are common factors that lead people to do it. Simply putting the blame on relaxed gun laws is not the answer, there is more going on (and I'm not pro-guns).

Those interested in these sorts of things, watch the movie Elephant, if you haven't already.
 
This is sick! and i had such an amazing night, just got home from watching the hobbit and i read this. Absolutely disgusted!
 
Americans SMDH. I def don't argue banning private HANDGUNS on individuals, the laws in the States are just too too relaxed on various gun laws (except some states like New York). There should be no justification or politically correct way for private citizens to own a M14/AK/M16 or any other rifle (if it's for hunting, then you wouldn't mind the rigorous testing that comes with gun controls in place; hunting is a bloody luxury at this point not a necessity).

Examples of Swedes/Norwegians/Koreans also not curbing such situations is relevant I admit but the mere fact that in a 10 year time-line it's less prevalent compared to 1-2 year span in the US, this has to be attributed to stricter gun laws. Society sadly will always have people who are off the hinges a bit, it's something no society has been able to cure/avoid. But ATLEAST trying implement socially responsible methods to "help people against themselves" is sometimes needed. Sounds fascist at this point, but you got to realize realistically humanity still can't handle total freedom just yet, it needs "modding" for lack of a better term, and America needs to implement gun controls, if they had a few months back, 5-10 year olds MIGHT have been saved, who knows.
 
burn said:
America, **** yeah!

On a more serious note, these shootings are definitely a trend in America. I'd love to know if there are common factors that lead people to do it. Simply putting the blame on relaxed gun laws is not the answer, there is more going on (and I'm not pro-guns).

Those interested in these sorts of things, watch the movie Elephant, if you haven't already.
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Haven't watched the movie but I sort of agree in that it seems to be a social thing in America now. I don't want to blame society as a whole when I have never lived in America nor interacted with them socially. I'll speak from my own perspective in that as a society, I feel that we do push limits always, It's how humans are built basically, now it might not make sense to many but to me it does.

As an entire society we have our own set of limits and boundaries we don't cross, and thus creates a delicate balance of morals and ethics i suppose. Sort of "don't touch a hot kettle or you will get scalded" and when we do and it happens, in reflection we apologize for having not listened to begin with. This is how I feel society has progressed lately, we tend to want to see things for ourselves, we very desensitized to others mistakes/teachings/experiences and move at such a rate that everyone tends to feel invincible enough till it happens to them. Crime happens daily, how many people in this forum, including myself, remember news stories from this time last year? We just see everything as good or bad, and that's for our own "entertainment", until it happens to you, and then your situation becomes someone else's entertainment. So even I don't have an answer on how to rectify a desensitized nation, that's for another day or generation I suppose. Sorry for the rant it's late and I'm tired, but highly disturbed by this.

In short people in general need to change their perceptions and reactions to incidents such as these to appreciate life and perhaps stop testing the limits we go through.
 
what kind of person puts a kid in its sights and pulls the trigger? ffs!
 
I wonder if people on this forum that are sickened and disgusted by the shooting of the kids in Connecticut were as disgusted and sickened by the killing of over 100 people, including 49 children, in Syria in what is now known as the Al-Houla massacre? I think they weren't as saddened and disgusted, actually, I don't think some even knew that such as event took place.

Al Houla massacre video

People seem to be disgusted more when a few people die in the US but not when people die in a third world country.

What I find most disturbing about the Connecticut shooting is that it reveals an essential truth about this country. People are only outraged because it was a massacre that was not sanctioned by the state.

If 18 children were murdered by a Pakistani schoolhouse by a drone, no one in the media would report it and just about everyone would go about their lives not caring.

Statism has a horrifically dehumanizing effect on how we perceive other human beings that are not American.
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Shooting at Connecticut school. 27 dead including 18 children

So turns out all three weapons were legally owned by his mother.

And I see 22 children were injured in China by some knife wielding prick. World's gone mad!
 
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