The Syrian Conflict Thread

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Which is why the only one who shouldn't be there is Russia. They really are just getting in the way.
 
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Solarion said:
Which is why the only one who shouldn't be there is Russia. They really are just getting in the way.
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How do you figure?

Edit: I see the answer was on the previous page. Can't say your argument is very convincing seeing as Russia's motivation for asking for clear delineation between the two groups is the United States' opposition to the supposed "moderates" being targeted when in reality there isn't actually such a thing as a moderate opposition in the first place, and the entire thing is pretty much a fiction of US foreign policy and has been ever since the first few months of the civil war.
 
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Xarog said:
That's better than any of the other proposed "solutions" to the Syrian problem at this point.
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Removing Assad is going leave a mess. Leaving him there is already a mess.

The whole thing is just a bloody big bugger up.
 
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Solarion said:
Removing Assad is going leave a mess. Leaving him there is already a mess.

The whole thing is just a bloody big bugger up.
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Leaving him there is a smaller mess. If you have a better proposal for a way to clean the place up, let's hear it.
 
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Xarog said:
Leaving him there is a smaller mess. If you have a better proposal for a way to clean the place up, let's hear it.
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As always, let the people decide for themselves. Split Syria up into smaller regions each with their own government. Remove the problem of Syria, but removing Syria all together.
 
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Solarion said:
As always, let the people decide for themselves. Split Syria up into smaller regions each with their own government. Remove the problem of Syria, but removing Syria all together.
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The overall majority have decided for Assad.
 
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Solarion said:
As always, let the people decide for themselves. Split Syria up into smaller regions each with their own government. Remove the problem of Syria, but removing Syria all together.
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As Noah has said, the majority of Syrians still support Assad.
 
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Xarog said:
How do you figure?

Edit: I see the answer was on the previous page. Can't say your argument is very convincing seeing as Russia's motivation for asking for clear delineation between the two groups is the United States' opposition to the supposed "moderates" being targeted when in reality there isn't actually such a thing as a moderate opposition in the first place, and the entire thing is pretty much a fiction of US foreign policy and has been ever since the first few months of the civil war.
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There is no such thing as moderates on both sides.

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As Noah has said, the majority of Syrians still support Assad.
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Rofl
 
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U.S. Halts Airstrike Against Islamic State After Russians Say Syrian Forces Hit

The U.S.-led coalition fighting Islamic State cut short an airstrike in eastern Syria on Saturday that mistakenly hit Syrian army positions, an attack the Russian military and monitors said inflicted heavy casualties on government troops.

The incident occurred in Syria’s Deir Ezzour province, an Islamic State stronghold where government forces have been fighting to dislodge the extremist group.

Syrian state news agency Sana said two U.S. F-16 fighters and two A-10 ground-attack planes flew across the border from Iraq to conduct the strike. The Russian military said the attack hit government forces in the vicinity of the Deir Ezzour military airport.

The Russian military, citing information from the Syrian command, said the strike killed 62 Syrian soldiers and wounded more than 100 people. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an observer group, said the strike killed at least 83 Syrian troops.
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/damascu...coalition-strikes-syrian-army-base-1474139833
 
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All I can say is, that this conflict bewilders me. So many factions, so many deaths. Superpowers going mental with airstrikes. AS long as they kill ISIS, I'm cool with that. Although, it hurts my mind that we sit hear commenting on death and destruction delivered thousands of Km's away from us.
 
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Alan said:
Very rarely one finds a conflict that doesn't bewilder
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True. Going to war when one willingly want's to kill others is bewildering. But this conflict seems to be a hodge-podge of mayhem. Does anyone know who are the good guys or bad guys here? Even if I wanted to take sides; I wouldn't have a clue.
 
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Splinter said:
True. Going to war when one willingly want's to kill others is bewildering. But this conflict seems to be a hodge-podge of mayhem. Does anyone know who are the good guys or bad guys here? Even if I wanted to take sides; I wouldn't have a clue.
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The Kurds are 'the good guys'

But it seems like most of the players think that pandering to the opportunistic, backstabbing Erdogan regime is more important than the Kurds. That goes for the US, Russia, the Islamists..

Seems like Turkey is very important to all of them.

I don't see why. I'd be happy for Turkey and Russia to shack up together. It would create friction between Russia and China. Turkey has been wholly supporting the islamist separatist uighurs in xinjiang.

If it was my call, they would be kicked out of NATO. On every western television screen, newspaper, radio station there would be this message being drummed into peoples stupid heads for the foreseeable future... "We have ALWAYS been at war with Turkey".

The west and China have armed and funded the Kurds for a long time anyway.. I would just push that strategy into overdrive. I would also never stop talking about Northern Cyprus and how it needs to be liberated. If/when they were to try to flood Europe with more illegals and ISIS operatives, I'd call it out for what it is, a hostile act of war by an enemy. Repercussions would occur.
 
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Source: https://www.afp.com/en/news/15/syrian-army-declares-ceasefire-over-blames-rebels
"Syria's army announces the end of the freeze on fighting that began at 7:00 pm (1600 GMT) on September 12, 2016 in accordance with the US-Russia agreement," the statement said.

Under the truce deal, the main route into Aleppo, the Castello Road, would be demilitarised allowing aid convoys to enter from Turkey
The truce backed by world powers aimed to help end Syria's brutal five-year conflict, which has killed more than 300,000 people and displaced millions.

But after several days of relative calm, fighting escalated across major battlefronts, culminating in a deadly US-led air raid at the weekend on a Syrian army position and fresh strikes on Aleppo.
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Take a bow USA, broker a ceasefire and proceed to bomb the official government forces :erm: /slow clap
 
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