The Syrian Conflict Thread

There are other groups with far more to gain from setting up an attack and blaming the regime, and Assad had more far more reason to use chemicals a year or more ago, when he was still on the back foot and looking weak.

If he didn't then, it just doesn't make sense that now that he's winning he would do this, he might be a despot who's not averse to using torture, but he's not stupid. He had nothing to gain and almost everything to lose from this.

Please read this article and you can quite easily understand how the 'Syrian army' could be responsible.

https://warontherocks.com/2016/08/the-decay-of-the-syrian-regime-is-much-worse-than-you-think/
 
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Please read this article and you can quite easily understand how the 'Syrian army' could be responsible.

https://warontherocks.com/2016/08/the-decay-of-the-syrian-regime-is-much-worse-than-you-think/

From an airbase with a very large Russian contingent? Yes, I can see it. "Let's just smuggle these sarin gas bombs past the Russians and onto planes".

Could it be that Syrians? Yes. Is there any proof? No.

Could it be another belligerent force in Syria? Yes. Is there any proof? No.

Also, you probably know just as much as some Yank writing thinktank articles in Washington DC...
 
There are other groups with far more to gain from setting up an attack and blaming the regime, and Assad had more far more reason to use chemicals a year or more ago, when he was still on the back foot and looking weak.

If he didn't then, it just doesn't make sense that now that he's winning he would do this, he might be a despot who's not averse to using torture, but he's not stupid. He had nothing to gain and almost everything to lose from this.


this is it for me. who had more to gain from this...
 
MIT professor exposes ‘egregious error’ & evidence tampering in US report on Syria sarin incident

https://www.rt.com/usa/384800-syria-gas-professor-addendum/

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This hole in the ground is what killed 70-80 people, fired from a Syrian Fighter jet?

I wonder what Trump would say if he saw this "I'm the stupidest American alive"

Doesn't even seem like at any stage there would be 70-80 people in that area and why if you are the Syrian army why would you drop a sarin barrel bomb in the FUKCING ROAD?

lol
 
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Source: Is That Armageddon Over The Horizon?
A new White House Fool has replaced the old fool. The New Fool has sent his Secretary of State to Russia. For what? To deliver an ultimatum? To make more false accusations? To apologize for the lies?

Consider the audacity of Secretary of State Tillerson. He has spent the week prior to his visit to Moscow supporting incredible lies and false allegations that Assad of Syria used chemical weapons with Russia’s permission, which justified Washington’s unambigious war crime of a military attack on a country with which the US has not declared war. Less than 100 days in office, and Trump is already a war criminal along with the rest of his warmonger government.

The entire world knows this, but no one says it. Instead, Tillerson, who has been heavy with lies and threats has the confidence to go to Moscow to tell the Russians that they have to hand over Assad to the American Uni-Power.

Tillerson’s mission demonstrates the complete, total unreality of the world in which Washington lives. Try to imagine Tillerson’s arrogance. If you had been bad-mouthing and threatening strong, important people, would you feel comfortable going over to their house to have dinner with them? Does Tillerson think that now that Russia has largely freed Syrtia of US-supported ISIS, Russia is going to turn Syria over to Washington?

Is he going to tell Lavrov that he didn’t really mean all those nasty lies he told about Russia, but the zionist neoconservatives made him do it? That he is not really in charge, just a tool of the Anglo-Zionist Empire?

Is Tillerson going to apologize for White House press secretary Sean Spicer’s statement that Assad, Russia’s ally, is more evil than Hitler? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39573063

Maybe Tillerson is going to ask for asylum and get on the winning side.
 
From an airbase with a very large Russian contingent? Yes, I can see it. "Let's just smuggle these sarin gas bombs past the Russians and onto planes".

They are in two separate parts of the airbase. I highly doubt the Russians are checking every container in every vehicle.

Also, you probably know just as much as some Yank writing thinktank articles in Washington DC...

Unlikely, but you know thats not an argument anyway.

Here is another one for you.
 
Maybe Assad threatened to push US out of the pipeline deal. If I was Assad, Goldman Sachs' growing participation in natural gas investment is viewed as a threat, considering how many are in the Trump camp. And Trump used the "sarin" gas incident to show Assad who's in charge.
 
Maybe Assad threatened to push US out of the pipeline deal. If I was Assad, Goldman Sachs' growing participation in natural gas investment is viewed as a threat, considering how many are in the Trump camp. And Trump used the "sarin" gas incident to show Assad who's in charge.

Again, the pipeline deal is dead and buried since 2012 and until Nabucco is signed.

Nabucco has been cancelled and there are very few chances of it ever being built as the TAP (Nabucco's
competitor) was built faster it and does not cater for a connection to the Qatar Turkey pipeline.
 
Again, the pipeline deal is dead and buried since 2012 and until Nabucco is signed.

Nabucco has been cancelled and there are very few chances of it ever being built as the TAP (Nabucco's
competitor) was built faster it and does not cater for a connection to the Qatar Turkey pipeline.
Nabucco was the European pipeline. The one through planned through Iran, Syria and Iraq is Iran, Syria, Iraq, Russia and US backed. US came in at tail end when Nabucco was cancelled in 2012.
 
Nabucco was the European pipeline. The one through planned through Iran, Syria and Iraq is Iran, Syria, Iraq, Russia and US backed. US came in at tail end when Nabucco was cancelled in 2012.

Where do you see any US support ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline

The purpose of a pipeline would be to reduce the dependency on Russian backed countries, such as Iran.

So an Irani pipeline is the opposite of what Europe and US want and need.
 
Where do you see any US support ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline

The purpose of a pipeline would be to reduce the dependency on Russian backed countries, such as Iran.

So an Irani pipeline is the opposite of what Europe and US want and need.

You're not going to see anything about US support on Wikipedia. Try Reddit or similar. Trump has criticised Hillary over the Syrian war in 2013, not because he really cared, but because he's wanted to get involved in the oil and gas business for years, since he's been dealing with "Russian businessmen" after his latest bankrupcy. There's strategic reasoning behind selecting Rex Tillerson as his Secretary of State and Goldman Sachs members on his team. Trump had been planning for quite a few years to run for president. War is delaying pipeline construction.

Iran is not only supported by Russia, but by USA as well because Iranians supported Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria.
 
Iran is not only supported by Russia, but by USA as well because Iranians supported Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria.

So it's speculation.

How are the US supporting Bashar ?
 
So it's speculation.

How are the US supporting Bashar ?

Straight from the horses mouth, and behind the scenes Trump's stance towards Syria hasn't changed:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-president-elect-donald-trump-support-assad-putin-syria-remove-rebel-backing-a7413346.html

President-elect Donald Trump has reaffirmed his campaign trail position that assisting the Syrian government in fighting Isis should be the US’ main objective in Syria, despite appeals from rebels for continued help in their fight against President Bashar al-Assad.

“I’ve had an opposite view of many people regarding Syria. My attitude was you’re fighting Syria, Syria is fighting Isis, and you have to get rid of Isis,” he said in a wide-ranging interview with the Wall Street Journal on Friday.

Mr Trump has stated that while he “did not like [Mr Assad] at all”, shoring up his regime is the best way to stem the extremism that has flourished in the chaos of the civil war and threatens the US.

He has also been emphatic about mending ties with Russia, Syria’s long-standing ally and military backer in the conflict.
 
It's basically saying stop fighting Assad and let him deal with Isis.

Nowhere it says let's have deals with him or with his allies Iran which is pushing it very far.
 
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