The Syrian Conflict Thread

S.a.i.n.T said:
Try stringing some sensible counter arguments together instead of being a cry baby. If you can't, I'll call it a night.

Nightie night, don't let the bed bugs bite.

PS: your profile pic suits your intellect.
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I think I actually used your real life photo as my profile pic!
 
Obama had a very contentious interview with '60 Minutes'

President Barack Obama's interview with CBS's "60 Minutes" was anything but smooth.

During an interview that primarily covered Obama's foreign policy in the Middle East, correspondent Steve Kroft was combative with Obama, repeatedly asking questions about his strategy on Syria and ISIS and the administration's response to Russian President Vladimir Putin's recent military maneuvers.

Kroft interrupted the President multiple times to challenge his answers, which seemed to genuinely perturb Obama.

One of the more interesting exchanges occurred when Kroft told Obama that Putin "seems to be challenging [Obama's] leadership."

Obama tried to make the case that Putin's actions come from a source of weakness, rather than strength. Kroft quickly disagreed.

"He's challenging your leadership, Mr. President. He's challenging your leadership," Kroft repeated.

Obama cut him off to give his definition of leadership.

"My definition of leadership would be leading on climate change, an international accord that potentially we'll get in Paris," Obama said. "My definition of leadership is mobilizing the entire world community to make sure that Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon."

Perhaps the most contentious part of the interview was an exchange regarding the program in Syria to train and equip 5,000 moderate Syrian rebels. The Obama administration officially abandoned the program last week after months of setbacks. By the end, according to a top US general, only "four or five" US-trained rebels were amid the fight in Syria.

Kroft called the program an "embarrassment":

Steve Kroft: I want to talk about the-- this program, because it would seem to show, I mean, if you expect 5,000 and you get five, it shows that somebody someplace along the line did not-- made-- you know, some sort of a serious miscalculation.

President Barack Obama: You know, the-- the-- Steve, let me just say this.

Steve Kroft: It's an embarrassment.

President Barack Obama: Look, there's no doubt that it did not work. And, one of the challenges that I've had throughout this heartbreaking situation inside of Syria is, is that-- you'll have people insist that, you know, all you have to do is send in a few-- you know, truckloads full of arms and people are ready to fight. And then, when you start a train-and-equip program and it doesn't work, then people say, "Well, why didn't it work?" Or, "If it had just started three months earlier it would've worked."

Steve Kroft: But you said yourself you never believed in this.

President Barack Obama: Well-- but Steve, what I have also said is, is that surprisingly enough it turns out that in a situation that is as volatile and with as many players as there are inside of Syria, there aren't any silver bullets. And this is precisely why I've been very clear that America's priorities has to be number one, keeping the American people safe. Number two, we are prepared to work both diplomatically and where we can to support moderate opposition that can help convince the Russians and Iranians to put pressure on Assad for a transition. But that what we are not going to do is to try to reinsert ourselves in a military campaign inside of Syria. Let's take the situation in Afghanistan, which I suspect you'll ask about. But I wanted to use this as an example.

Steve Kroft: All right. I feel like I'm being filibustered, Mr. President.

President Barack Obama: No, no, no, no, no. Steve, I think if you want to roll back the tape, you've been giving me long questions and statements, and now I'm responding to 'em. So let's-- so-- if you ask me big, open-ended questions, expect big, open-ended answers.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-had-a-very-contentious-interview-with-60-minutes-2015-10
 
The meddling by the US and destabilization of other countries are at least being admitted now. I hope the blinkers will fall off and that people will take note of the hidden hand of the US / CIA in the collapse of rule in Middle East countries.

I like the "moderate" part where Obama said "... to train and equip 5,000 moderate Syrian rebels." So, there you have it, not all Muslims are violent barbaric killers, there are moderate Muslims, Obama said so. Do you believe me now? Lol.
 
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snoopdoggydog said:
Obama had a very contentious interview with '60 Minutes'

President Barack Obama's interview with CBS's "60 Minutes" was anything but smooth.

During an interview that primarily covered Obama's foreign policy in the Middle East, correspondent Steve Kroft was combative with Obama, repeatedly asking questions about his strategy on Syria and ISIS and the administration's response to Russian President Vladimir Putin's recent military maneuvers.

Kroft interrupted the President multiple times to challenge his answers, which seemed to genuinely perturb Obama.

One of the more interesting exchanges occurred when Kroft told Obama that Putin "seems to be challenging [Obama's] leadership."

Obama tried to make the case that Putin's actions come from a source of weakness, rather than strength. Kroft quickly disagreed.

"He's challenging your leadership, Mr. President. He's challenging your leadership," Kroft repeated.

Obama cut him off to give his definition of leadership.

"My definition of leadership would be leading on climate change, an international accord that potentially we'll get in Paris," Obama said. "My definition of leadership is mobilizing the entire world community to make sure that Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon."

Perhaps the most contentious part of the interview was an exchange regarding the program in Syria to train and equip 5,000 moderate Syrian rebels. The Obama administration officially abandoned the program last week after months of setbacks. By the end, according to a top US general, only "four or five" US-trained rebels were amid the fight in Syria.

Kroft called the program an "embarrassment":

Steve Kroft: I want to talk about the-- this program, because it would seem to show, I mean, if you expect 5,000 and you get five, it shows that somebody someplace along the line did not-- made-- you know, some sort of a serious miscalculation.

President Barack Obama: You know, the-- the-- Steve, let me just say this.

Steve Kroft: It's an embarrassment.

President Barack Obama: Look, there's no doubt that it did not work. And, one of the challenges that I've had throughout this heartbreaking situation inside of Syria is, is that-- you'll have people insist that, you know, all you have to do is send in a few-- you know, truckloads full of arms and people are ready to fight. And then, when you start a train-and-equip program and it doesn't work, then people say, "Well, why didn't it work?" Or, "If it had just started three months earlier it would've worked."

Steve Kroft: But you said yourself you never believed in this.

President Barack Obama: Well-- but Steve, what I have also said is, is that surprisingly enough it turns out that in a situation that is as volatile and with as many players as there are inside of Syria, there aren't any silver bullets. And this is precisely why I've been very clear that America's priorities has to be number one, keeping the American people safe. Number two, we are prepared to work both diplomatically and where we can to support moderate opposition that can help convince the Russians and Iranians to put pressure on Assad for a transition. But that what we are not going to do is to try to reinsert ourselves in a military campaign inside of Syria. Let's take the situation in Afghanistan, which I suspect you'll ask about. But I wanted to use this as an example.

Steve Kroft: All right. I feel like I'm being filibustered, Mr. President.

President Barack Obama: No, no, no, no, no. Steve, I think if you want to roll back the tape, you've been giving me long questions and statements, and now I'm responding to 'em. So let's-- so-- if you ask me big, open-ended questions, expect big, open-ended answers.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-had-a-very-contentious-interview-with-60-minutes-2015-10
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Good, someone calling this spineless idiot out.
Well done.
 
S.a.i.n.T said:
The meddling by the US and destabilization of other countries are at least being admitted now. I hope the blinkers will fall off and that people will take note of the hidden hand of the US / CIA in the collapse of rule in Middle East countries.

I like the "moderate" part where Obama said "... to train and equip 5,000 moderate Syrian rebels." So, there you have it, not all Muslims are violent barbaric killers, there are moderate Muslims, Obama said so. Do you believe me now? Lol.
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Don't worry yourself, Captain. Justice shall prevail.
 
S.a.i.n.T said:
I like the "moderate" part where Obama said "... to train and equip 5,000 moderate Syrian rebels." So, there you have it, not all Muslims are violent barbaric killers, there are moderate Muslims, Obama said so. Do you believe me now? Lol.
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lol
obviously not, you have going on about us deception bla bla bla. lol
given that, obama's statement is clearly further proof of those continual lies & deception. lol


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like you, i really am laughing out loud



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Did U.S. weapons supplied to Syrian rebels draw Russia into the conflict?

American antitank missiles supplied to Syrian rebels are playing an unexpectedly prominent role in shaping the Syrian battlefield, giving the conflict the semblance of a proxy war between the United States and Russia, despite President Obama’s express desire to avoid one.

The U.S.-made BGM-71 TOW missiles were delivered under a two-year-old covert program coordinated between the United States and its allies to help vetted Free Syrian Army groups in their fight against President Bashar al-Assad. Now that Russia has entered the war in support of Assad, they are taking on a greater significance than was originally intended.

So successful have they been in driving rebel gains in northwestern Syria that rebels call the missile the “Assad Tamer,” a play on the word Assad, which means lion. And in recent days they have been used with great success to slow the Russian-backed offensive aimed at recapturing ground from the rebels.

Since Wednesday, when Syrian troops launched their first offensive backed by the might of Russia’s military, dozens of videos have been posted on YouTube showing rebels firing the U.S.-made missiles at Russian-made tanks and armored vehicles belonging to the Syrian army. Appearing as twirling balls of light, they zigzag across the Syrian countryside until they find and blast their target in a ball of flame.

The rebels claim they took out 24 tanks and armored vehicles on the first day, and the toll has risen daily since then.

“It was a tank massacre,” said Capt. Mustafa Moarati, whose Tajamu al-Izza group says it destroyed seven tanks and armored vehicles Wednesday.

More missiles are on the way, he said. New supplies arrived after the Russian deployments began, he said, and the rebels’ allies have promised further deliveries soon, bringing echoes of the role played by U.S.-supplied Stinger antiaircraft missiles in forcing the Soviet Union to withdraw from Afghanistan in the 1980s.
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Full story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8ce566-6dfc-11e5-91eb-27ad15c2b723_story.html
 
snoopdoggydog said:
President Barack Obama: Well-- but Steve, what I have also said is, is that surprisingly enough it turns out that in a situation that is as volatile and with as many players as there are inside of Syria, there aren't any silver bullets. And this is precisely why I've been very clear that America's priorities has to be number one, keeping the American people safe. Number two, we are prepared to work both diplomatically and where we can to support moderate opposition that can help convince the Russians and Iranians to put pressure on Assad for a transition. But that what we are not going to do is to try to reinsert ourselves in a military campaign inside of Syria. Let's take the situation in Afghanistan, which I suspect you'll ask about. But I wanted to use this as an example.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-had-a-very-contentious-interview-with-60-minutes-2015-10
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Serioously :wtf: Does anybody in their right mind actually believe that any transition at this point would achieve a peacefull resolution.
 
Unhappy438 said:
American antitank missiles supplied to Syrian rebels are playing an unexpectedly prominent role in shaping the Syrian battlefield, giving the conflict the semblance of a proxy war between the United States and Russia
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Early days of WW3?
 
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