The Telkom tax

I blame the Americans!! Those SBC lawyers tied the RSA government in knots while they were effectively running Telkom... Everything that they could not get past the US regulators, they pushed through here. And the main man was Tom Barry!!

http://www.iweek.co.za/ViewStory.asp?StoryID=180251

Telkom learned a lot from SBC. When in doubt or not happy litigate and ride it out. The yanks are experts at that.
 
I'm struggling to understand why this thread is still ongoing....

Other than moaning about the fast internet in the EU....

As much as thats nice, the EU can't offer alot of the things we take for granted here in SA (and no, I'm not trying to derail this thread... just pointing it out)
 
Yes I have tried this. But it does not tell me the distance to my exchange, it does not tell me the line noise ratio's. Not Telkom, and not the ISP can tell me this !

It says I do have ADSL on exchange and that I can get ADSL. I live in a small town. Our next neighbouring town (even smaller) is 89kms away. I know ADSL is only effective up 4,5-5km's but...

Please guys, do yourself a favour. Ask someone who lives in the UK or Netherlands how a line test is done by your potential ISP.
If you don't know, here is how ine find out what line speed one can get in an EU country:

1. Call your potential ISP's sales.
2. Give your landline number where you want the ADSL installed.
3. The sales guy/girls will probably tell you "Your copper cable is 1,9km or 2,4km (whatever) and you can expect to receive up to 17Mb downstream and 1,5mb upstream."
It is number 3 that no one can tell me.

I'm in the process of moving home and have a similar issue. Currently living in the city I have 4Meg ADSL, moving out I wasn't sure even if I would get ADSL. Used the availability checker and the existing owners phone number I could check the exchange, however as you say that just says it's enabled.

I did have a luck with the Telkom rep who I asked to please investigate the exchange speeds and was told that it is rated for 512 at the mo but what she suggests is apply for the highest and if the exchange doesn't support it, they will drop you to the next band and you will not have to pay a downgrade fee as it is their exchanges fault, not your decision. Apparently they aren't certain what a exchange can handle between 512 and 4Meg until they actually go and activate it.

Sloppy aint it.
 
Apparently they aren't certain what a exchange can handle between 512 and 4Meg until they actually go and activate it.

Sloppy aint it.

It's not the exchange itself but the distance from the exchange to your new home and the condition of the phyiscal copper cable connection!
 
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It says I do have ADSL on exchange and that I can get ADSL. I live in a small town. Our next neighbouring town (even smaller) is 89kms away. I know ADSL is only effective up 4,5-5km's but...

OK -- you are IN the town ( WHY Ellisras I might ask ??? )

IF the Telkom exchange in the town has DSLAMS then you are pretty much assured of ADSL.

Surely in a small town NO-ONE is far from the exchange ???

What I would suggest -- find out where your local Telkom exchange is -- should not be that difficult -- the exchange buildings stick out like a sore thumb.

Go to the gate and ask to see the person in charge. Normally they will call the person to the gate / ask you in

Take it from there -- you are far more likely to get a decent answer from the people that actually do the work than someone sitting behind a desk.

IF you cannot get ADSL -- start looking at a leased line -- pretty much goes anywhere.

I assume you wife is earning EUROS / DOLLARS -- in which case line should be affordable. ( You already spending R 2000.00 )


LEAVE the story about EU / UK / AMERICA

This is AFRICA -- GET USED TO IT -- YOUR decision to be HERE ( actually in the back of beyond )


MW
 
NO

I still blame the Americans for the state of our telecoms!!

NO

I blame ourselves for letting it happen.

WHY are all these reports and papers done by Uitlanders -- Foreigners

Do we not have Universities in SA ??????


Seeing as I am feeling generous today ...........

I suppose UNISA is a South African University ??? there certainly seem to be a lot of HORWITZ's though.

Telecommunications policy in the new South Africa: participatory politics and sectoral reform
Robert B Horwitz



If you scratch around a bit you can find the actual report ( The BARRY Horwitz report ) -- just downloaded two seperate copies of it


MW
 
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OK -- you are IN the town ( WHY Ellisras I might ask ??? )

IF the Telkom exchange in the town has DSLAMS then you are pretty much assured of ADSL.

Surely in a small town NO-ONE is far from the exchange ???

I assume you wife is earning EUROS / DOLLARS -- in which case line should be affordable. ( You already spending R 2000.00 )

Correct.. my wife earns in Euros !
Yes, I live outside Ellisras on a farm, which is on the town boundary...
Thank you for the good suggestions, I will follow this up and visit our local exchange.

I think the thread can now be closed. Thank you to all who participated.
 
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