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Tesla is faster, more agile handling, quicker around the track and has a much longer range. It seems easily the best choice.
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Model 3 Owner Says Tesla "Cheaped Out" On Quality For 2022
After upgrading from a 2021 Model 3 to a 2022, he's "disappointed" by the interior and exterior
The used car market right now is, in a word, wild. People who recently picked up a new car are finding themselves beset on all sides by buyers who want to pay top dollar — even above sticker price. Such was the situation with one Tesla Model 3 owner in Connecticut, who was given an offer he couldn’t refuse for his 2021 Model 3 Long Range. He replaced it with a 2022 Model 3 Performance, but now feels the quality has sharply dropped from his old car.
It’s unusual to have two near-identical cars from different model years to compare between, but YouTuber Legend17 had just that. He had agreed to sell his 2021 Model 3 Long Range already, but the company that agreed to buy it hadn’t yet picked it up by the time he bought his new 2022 Model 3 Performance. With both cars sitting in his driveway, he decided to make some comparisons on fit and finish. Now, he might be wishing he hadn’t looked so closely.
Legend17 begins with the exteriors of both cars, pointing out the differences that come with the Performance trim level compared to the Long Range. Then, he goes into the panel gaps, and things start to get interesting. Gaps on the red 2022 are clearly larger and less consistent than the white 2021, though panel alignment and color matching seem to have been improved.
This begets a question that no one should really have to ask, but Tesla has forced into our collective minds: Which exterior build quality issues are livable, and which aren’t? By my own tastes, the red car’s exterior seems more competently assembled — I’d rather live with panel gaps than entire panels of mismatched paint.
https://jalopnik.com/model-3-owner-says-tesla-cheaped-out-on-quality-for-2-1848173101
After upgrading from a 2021 Model 3 to a 2022, he's "disappointed" by the interior and exterior
The used car market right now is, in a word, wild. People who recently picked up a new car are finding themselves beset on all sides by buyers who want to pay top dollar — even above sticker price. Such was the situation with one Tesla Model 3 owner in Connecticut, who was given an offer he couldn’t refuse for his 2021 Model 3 Long Range. He replaced it with a 2022 Model 3 Performance, but now feels the quality has sharply dropped from his old car.
It’s unusual to have two near-identical cars from different model years to compare between, but YouTuber Legend17 had just that. He had agreed to sell his 2021 Model 3 Long Range already, but the company that agreed to buy it hadn’t yet picked it up by the time he bought his new 2022 Model 3 Performance. With both cars sitting in his driveway, he decided to make some comparisons on fit and finish. Now, he might be wishing he hadn’t looked so closely.
Legend17 begins with the exteriors of both cars, pointing out the differences that come with the Performance trim level compared to the Long Range. Then, he goes into the panel gaps, and things start to get interesting. Gaps on the red 2022 are clearly larger and less consistent than the white 2021, though panel alignment and color matching seem to have been improved.
This begets a question that no one should really have to ask, but Tesla has forced into our collective minds: Which exterior build quality issues are livable, and which aren’t? By my own tastes, the red car’s exterior seems more competently assembled — I’d rather live with panel gaps than entire panels of mismatched paint.
https://jalopnik.com/model-3-owner-says-tesla-cheaped-out-on-quality-for-2-1848173101
That's weird that's not what I've been hearing - OHHHhhh, Jalopnik, nevermind, makes perfect sense now. They probably went searching for the one person in the world who doesn't like the latest 3. They only do anti-Tesla pieces. For at least 3 years that I know of.
(That being said, build quality out of Fremont is still sometimes inconsistent - it's an old, cobbled together factory. Chinese Teslas are wayyy better. As will be Texas and Germany soon).
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Initially I was thinking that but watch the YT vid. One compares side by side the MY 2021 vs the 2022. His owned both so his opinion does count in some form.
Will take your word for it. Jalopnik's on my "don't give them clicks" list. Along with several "reputable" financial websites. And Consumer Reports. Learned the hard way.
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Audi RS3 Sportback v Tesla Model 3 Performance: Drag Race - Carwow
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Tesla Appears To Be Selling New Cars With Batteries From 2017 - Jalopnik
I'm sort of confused as to exactly what's going on here but it's worth talking about
The “Range Disclaimer” states
This is a bit confusing, for a number of reasons. First, why is there a 2017 pack being used in a 2021 car, even if that car is explained to be a “demo car?” Second, when it says “this pack was brand new when the vehicle was built, the cells have reduced capacity due to their age” (emphasis mine), what does that, mean, exactly?
The pack was brand new when the vehicle was built? What vehicle? The 2021 Model 3 that’s being sold with the pack, or another one that could be as old as one from 2017? I can’t quite make sense of this.
I understand the concept of New Old Stock (NOS) parts, of course, and that’s what this seems to be, but I’m thrown by the mention that the pack was new when the vehicle was built, because that can’t be true if the car was built as a 2021 model unless the car is potentially as old as a 2017 model, in which case why is that four-going-on-five-year-old car being sold as a 2021 car?
I’d reach out to Tesla for help, but as we all know, I may as well reach out to the giant, gregarious rat known as Charles Emerson Cheese, or more commonly, Chuck E. Cheese, as both he and Tesla’s PR/Media relations department are equally real.
Now, it’s not like Tesla is hiding this information, exactly—the disclaimer (confusing as it is) and the notice that the range could be up to 12 percent lower is right there on the site—but considering how important batteries are to an EV, I’m not convinced a 2021 car with a potentially 2017 battery pack should be sold as a 2021 car.
Tesla Appears To Be Selling New Cars With Batteries From 2017 - Jalopnik
Determining what year a car is can actually prove to be a trickier question than you’d think. The year the car was actually manufactured is a huge part of it, of course, but what about a car made from unused old stock? Or there’s the case of VW’s mascot Beetles, named Max, all of which look like...
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Modified Tesla Model 3s tested in emergency services trial
Nine months into the trial and early signs are encouraging
The adaptations also take advantage of Tesla’s over-the-air-update facilities, with police forces able to use new software to send directions to emergencies direct to the Model 3’s infotainment screen.
Tesla also says the Model 3 police car proved to be cost efficient. After 15,000 miles the car required new brakes and tyres but limited servicing compared to traditional, combustion-engined police cars. It’s ‘fuelling’ costs were also significantly lower.
Tesla will continue to work with police forces throughout 2022 in order to gain more understanding requirements.
As well as testing police cars, Tesla has also run trials for first response cars with Avon Fire and Rescue.
The fire service tested four, blue light enabled Model 3s, with officers and fleet staff spending time driving the vehicle on a variety of roads in all weather conditions.
www.autocar.co.uk
Nine months into the trial and early signs are encouraging
The adaptations also take advantage of Tesla’s over-the-air-update facilities, with police forces able to use new software to send directions to emergencies direct to the Model 3’s infotainment screen.
Tesla also says the Model 3 police car proved to be cost efficient. After 15,000 miles the car required new brakes and tyres but limited servicing compared to traditional, combustion-engined police cars. It’s ‘fuelling’ costs were also significantly lower.
Tesla will continue to work with police forces throughout 2022 in order to gain more understanding requirements.
As well as testing police cars, Tesla has also run trials for first response cars with Avon Fire and Rescue.
The fire service tested four, blue light enabled Model 3s, with officers and fleet staff spending time driving the vehicle on a variety of roads in all weather conditions.
Modified Tesla Model 3s tested in emergency services trial | Autocar
Nine months into the trial and early signs are encouraging
www.autocar.co.uk
TOLD you guys not to click on Jalopnik.Tesla Appears To Be Selling New Cars With Batteries From 2017 - Jalopnik
I'm sort of confused as to exactly what's going on here but it's worth talking about
Tesla Appears To Be Selling New Cars With Batteries From 2017 - Jalopnik
Determining what year a car is can actually prove to be a trickier question than you’d think. The year the car was actually manufactured is a huge part of it, of course, but what about a car made from unused old stock? Or there’s the case of VW’s mascot Beetles, named Max, all of which look like...
It's old demo stock / old shop models. Some of them are obviously very old. They have to add the range disclosure as a disclaimer, even though that doesn't mean the range would be that bad.
Demand is so high they have to even sell these.
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WHAT'S 'COMMUTING' IN A TESLA MODEL 3 LIKE?
Britain’s commuters went from 62 to zero when the pandemic struck, but that doesn’t mean staying in the house
VERDICT: With all the Tesla’s onboard entertainment you’ll probably find yourself looking forward to a chance to stop. Do we need faster charging or just something better to do?
www.topgear.com
Britain’s commuters went from 62 to zero when the pandemic struck, but that doesn’t mean staying in the house
VERDICT: With all the Tesla’s onboard entertainment you’ll probably find yourself looking forward to a chance to stop. Do we need faster charging or just something better to do?
What's 'commuting' in a Tesla Model 3 like?
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Very smart.
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Europe's Best-Selling EV Is... The Tesla Model 3
Volkswagen's ID.3 is on track to be second, while the Renault Zoe is third.
The Tesla Model 3 has only been in Europe for a couple of years now, but it has been an instant hit. In 2021, it is expected to be the best-selling EV there, topping competitors like the Volkswagen ID.3 and the Renault Zoe, according to a new report. You can see why Tesla CEO Elon Musk is so anxious to get Tesla’s factory in Germany up and running.
That report, published in Automotive News, also says that, unsurprisingly, Tesla will be the best-selling EV brand, too, though Volkswagen will be the best-selling EV company, by virtue of selling EVs not just with the Volkswagen marque but also electric Audis, Cupras, Skodas, and Porsches, too.
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Volkswagen's ID.3 is on track to be second, while the Renault Zoe is third.
The Tesla Model 3 has only been in Europe for a couple of years now, but it has been an instant hit. In 2021, it is expected to be the best-selling EV there, topping competitors like the Volkswagen ID.3 and the Renault Zoe, according to a new report. You can see why Tesla CEO Elon Musk is so anxious to get Tesla’s factory in Germany up and running.
That report, published in Automotive News, also says that, unsurprisingly, Tesla will be the best-selling EV brand, too, though Volkswagen will be the best-selling EV company, by virtue of selling EVs not just with the Volkswagen marque but also electric Audis, Cupras, Skodas, and Porsches, too.
Europe's Best-Selling EV Is... The Tesla Model 3 - Jalopnik
The Tesla Model 3 has only been in Europe for a couple of years now, but it has been an instant hit. In 2021, it is expected to be the best-selling EV there, topping competitors like the Volkswagen ID.3 and the Renault Zoe, according to a new report. You can see why Tesla CEO Elon Musk is so...
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Tesla Model 3 on track to be Europe’s top-selling EV in 2021
The small saloon is easily beating electric rivals in the sales stakes, including the Volkswagen ID 3 and Renault Zoe
The Tesla Model 3 is on course to become Europe’s best-selling electric vehicle in 2021, amid huge growth in overall electric vehicle sales.
Tesla sold 112,687 Model 3s from January through to November, according to JATO Dynamics figures, easily making it the top-selling EV.
The Volkswagen ID 3 is likely to be the second most popular EV with 62,467 units sold in the same period, an increase of 124 per cent year-on-year.
It is set to be closely followed by the Renault Zoe which had sales of 60,362 in the same period, down 28% over 2020.
In September this year, the Model 3 topped the overall car sales charts, becoming the first electric car to do so, outperforming regular combustion-engined best-sellers including the VW Golf and Renault Clio.
Based on the figures to November, Tesla will be the top-selling brand for electric vehicles overall this year. While the Model 3 is dominant, Tesla Model Y sales are also ramping up. There have been 18,036 sales of the small SUV so far in Europe this year.
www.autocar.co.uk
The small saloon is easily beating electric rivals in the sales stakes, including the Volkswagen ID 3 and Renault Zoe
The Tesla Model 3 is on course to become Europe’s best-selling electric vehicle in 2021, amid huge growth in overall electric vehicle sales.
Tesla sold 112,687 Model 3s from January through to November, according to JATO Dynamics figures, easily making it the top-selling EV.
The Volkswagen ID 3 is likely to be the second most popular EV with 62,467 units sold in the same period, an increase of 124 per cent year-on-year.
It is set to be closely followed by the Renault Zoe which had sales of 60,362 in the same period, down 28% over 2020.
In September this year, the Model 3 topped the overall car sales charts, becoming the first electric car to do so, outperforming regular combustion-engined best-sellers including the VW Golf and Renault Clio.
Based on the figures to November, Tesla will be the top-selling brand for electric vehicles overall this year. While the Model 3 is dominant, Tesla Model Y sales are also ramping up. There have been 18,036 sales of the small SUV so far in Europe this year.
Tesla Model 3 on track to be Europe’s top-selling EV in 2021 | Autocar
The small saloon is easily beating electric rivals in the sales stakes, including the Volkswagen ID 3 and Renault Zoe
www.autocar.co.uk
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BMW i4 M50 v Tesla Model 3 Performance: Drag Race - Carwow
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carsales.com.au review of the 2022 Model 3
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BMW i4 M50 vs Tesla Model 3 Performance review - Carwow
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Tesla's New Infotainment Computers Are Sapping Range - Jalopnik
It's unclear whether or not the new Ryzen-based systems can run Crysis
That WLTP acronym referenced in the photo is the EU’s emissions and range test cycle for new cars. certain Model 3 models have lost up to 3.5% of their range in that test due to the new computer.
Tesla's New Infotainment Computers Are Sapping Range - Jalopnik
Last summer, Tesla began rolling out a new infotainment computer called the MCU3 (no relation) in its high-end Model S and Model X vehicles. Not only did the new computer include a faster processor, enabling smoother navigation through the car’s menus, it also contains a dedicated graphics...
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