The Toyota Hilux Thread

Hilux ‘Quest’ – Would you buy a brand-new ‘old’ Toyota bakkie?

As bakkies become increasingly sophisticated – and therefore, pricier – the demand for more affordable new double-cab bakkies will only increase. Chinese manufacturers’ models offer one solution, but another one might come from within South Africa…

New vehicle affordability is an issue. That’s obvious. South Africans aren’t getting wealthier and their disposable spend is constrained. But the strange thing is that South Africa’s best-selling vehicle isn’t entry-level or particularly affordable – at all.

That’s because there is no such thing as a cheap Toyota Hilux. When you are priced out of budget for the current 8th-gen Hilux, you’ll find that 7th-gen Hiluxes, even those that have racked up huge mileages, command high prices. But the bakkie market might be due for reshaping, with old becoming… new.

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What if Toyota built a new 'old Hilux' in SA?

Imagine if Toyota did with the Hilux what Volkswagen does with Polo? A new 'old' continuation Hilux double-cab bakkies, anyone?
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FiestaST said:
Hilux ‘Quest’ – Would you buy a brand-new ‘old’ Toyota bakkie?

As bakkies become increasingly sophisticated – and therefore, pricier – the demand for more affordable new double-cab bakkies will only increase. Chinese manufacturers’ models offer one solution, but another one might come from within South Africa…

New vehicle affordability is an issue. That’s obvious. South Africans aren’t getting wealthier and their disposable spend is constrained. But the strange thing is that South Africa’s best-selling vehicle isn’t entry-level or particularly affordable – at all.

That’s because there is no such thing as a cheap Toyota Hilux. When you are priced out of budget for the current 8th-gen Hilux, you’ll find that 7th-gen Hiluxes, even those that have racked up huge mileages, command high prices. But the bakkie market might be due for reshaping, with old becoming… new.

www.cars.co.za

What if Toyota built a new 'old Hilux' in SA?

Imagine if Toyota did with the Hilux what Volkswagen does with Polo? A new 'old' continuation Hilux double-cab bakkies, anyone?
www.cars.co.za www.cars.co.za
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Interesting idea.... I wonder what that will do to the secondhand values of the newer generations?
 
die_koos said:
Interesting idea.... I wonder what that will do to the secondhand values of the newer generations?
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It is a very interesting idea for Hilux yes, it would be uncharted territory for Hilux.

WRT 2nd hand values it would be very challenging to guesstimate, I suppose with how the old new model is implemented (price vs what is stripped out) would play a big part.
 
if you think about it, those Chinese Bakkies are essentially what?

Old Hiluxes with a Different Paintjob and some weird styling.

I bet the parts even fit, things like plugs and air filters from a Hilux, so again, if you pick a Chinese bakkie make sure its a good copy and not a bad copy.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
if you think about it, those Chinese Bakkies are essentially what?

Old Hiluxes with a Different Paintjob and some weird styling.

I bet the parts even fit, things like plugs and air filters from a Hilux, so again, if you pick a Chinese bakkie make sure its a good copy and not a bad copy.
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I Know a lot of the early Chinese ones were actually built in Chinese factories with old tooling bought from Isuzu.
 
FiestaST said:
It is a very interesting idea for Hilux yes, it would be uncharted territory for Hilux.

WRT 2nd hand values it would be very challenging to guesstimate, I suppose with how the old new model is implemented (price vs what is stripped out) would play a big part.
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Might be just me, but I would prefer a new Hilux "Quest" over a 4 year old > 120k kms 2.8GD..... guess it depends on why you want a bakkie. If it's to look rich you will likely want the fancy one...
 
Toyota SA intends to launch a new bakkie that will be cheaper than Hilux

There’s every indication that Toyota South Africa Motors (TSAM) will be producing a a smaller Hilux-type bakkie at its Prospecton Plant in Durban.

“It won’t be a half-ton bakkie,” said TSAM senior vice president for sales and marketing Leon Theron at a recent media round-table discussion.

“We believe it will take the market by storm and are still doing a lot of development around it.”

Glenn Crompton, TSA’s vice president marketing and communications, said it would be a solution for Africa and emerging markets.

“Something that’s in the same space but more affordable than the Hilux that we’re looking at releasing around 2025/26.”

Asked whether it would be produced locally, Crompton said it was establishing whether that could happen.

“We have quite a complex plant, most plants globally produce one model. We produce Fortuner, Hilux, Corolla Cross, Hiace, Corolla Quest and trucks.

“Ideally though that’s the kind of product we want to produce in Africa because it’s a product for Africa.

 
FiestaST said:
It is a very interesting idea for Hilux yes, it would be uncharted territory for Hilux.

WRT 2nd hand values it would be very challenging to guesstimate, I suppose with how the old new model is implemented (price vs what is stripped out) would play a big part.
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I think this is being down the cost of a 2nd hand Hilux with poverty specs because it will be no better than the Hilux Quest in terms of specs but will have higher mileage. Toyota hardly has much luxuries so the Hilux Quest can’t be that much of a downgrade.
 
Yoztruly said:
I think this is being down the cost of a 2nd hand Hilux with poverty specs because it will be no better than the Hilux Quest in terms of specs but will have higher mileage. Toyota hardly has much luxuries so the Hilux Quest can’t be that much of a downgrade.
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Fair point, how a Quest Hilux is actually implemented will be the acid test & market forces will dictate how it plays out.
 
10 best-selling bakkies in South Africa: May 2023

Has the Toyota Hilux managed to grab back the top spot? Let’s take a closer at South Africa’s best- and worst-selling bakkies for May 2023…

South Africa’s new-vehicle industry registered 10.1% of year-on-year growth in May 2023, finishing the month on 43 060 units. The light-commercial vehicle (LCV) segment provided much of this momentum, with sales in that sector of the market increasing a significant 38.5% year on year to 12 825 units.

Question is, after being relegated to an unfamiliar 2nd place in April 2023, did the Toyota Hilux manage to regain the top spot on the list of South Africa’s best-selling bakkies in May 2023? It did indeed, with the popular Prospecton-produced pick-up racking up 2 798 registrations across the country.

10 best-selling bakkies in South Africa for May 2023

1. Toyota Hilux – 2 798 units

2. Ford Ranger – 2 104 units

3. Isuzu D-Max – 1 555 units

4. Nissan NP200 – 1 157 units

5. Mahindra Pik Up – 639 units

6. GWM P-Series – 494 units

7. Toyota Land Cruiser 79 – 371 units

8. Volkswagen Amarok – 330 units

9. Nissan Navara – 318 units

10. GWM Steed – 99 units

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10 best-selling bakkies in South Africa: May 2023

Has the Toyota Hilux managed to grab back the top spot? Let’s take a closer at South Africa’s best- and worst-selling bakkies for May 2023…
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