The Unrest in Egypt Thread 2013

grantza said:
I wonder if egypt is going to become another syria ?
The middle east is the "poster boy" for how evil religion can be.
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No need to wonder, the only difference is the coin is flipped. In syria the west and saudis are pushing for assads removal while iran and hezbollah to to it.

In egypt there is no saudi funding rebels/extremists, so it will become the same as syria just the rebels/extremists not supported by the main players. Egypt is screwed, civil war and no way to keep both camps happy. Holding morsi captive is wrong and he has been kidnapped essentially. The longer he is in jail the worse the violence will get. He will be the like mandela in a sense. Problem is the US don't know what to do because the saudis and qatar are pulling the strings. At least is saves the american people 1.5 billion :D
 
grantza said:
I wonder if egypt is going to become another syria ?
The middle east is the "poster boy" for how evil religion can be.
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It's already another Iraq, why not Syria also...

Garyvdh said:
In the nighttime attacks Sunday, security officials said militants fired automatic weapons at a police club, a police station and a security post outside a bank in the center of el-Arish.

A 25-year-old woman walking in the street near the bank was struck by a bullet and seriously wounded. A soldier outside the bank was killed in the clash, officials said. The bank is on a main square in el-Arish.

Officials said a gun battle raged for several minutes between militants and security forces at the police station. A male driver was killed outside the station when a bullet hit him.

Also at night, a police camp in the city of Rafah on the Egypt-Gaza border came under attack by militants, who fired rocket-propelled grenades at the building, wounding four civilians and six soldiers protecting the site.

Earlier in the day, three policemen were killed by sniper fire in another coordinated attack while guarding an administrative building, a TV station and the police station in el-Arish, according to a security official. All officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief reporters.
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killadoob said:
No need to wonder, the only difference is the coin is flipped. In syria the west and saudis are pushing for assads removal while iran and hezbollah to to it.

In egypt there is no saudi funding rebels/extremists, so it will become the same as syria just the rebels/extremists not supported by the main players. Egypt is screwed, civil war and no way to keep both camps happy. Holding morsi captive is wrong and he has been kidnapped essentially. The longer he is in jail the worse the violence will get. He will be the like mandela in a sense. Problem is the US don't know what to do because the saudis and qatar are pulling the strings. At least is saves the american people 1.5 billion :D
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It will get worse, whether he is released or not.

Garyvdh said:
For militants in Sinai, however, restoring Morsi is not the priority -they have said their goal is to drive out the military and the authority of the central government in order to create an "Islamic Emirate." Morsi's ouster by the military, though, took away a leader seen as reining in security crackdowns.

The attacks Sunday highlighted the security crisis Egypt's military-backed interim leaders face in restoring stability after more than two years of turmoil since the popular uprising that toppled longtime President Hosni Mubarak in 2011.
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Al-Qaeda Leader Freed in Morsi Jailbreak Seeks to Declare Sinai an Islamic Emirate

Egyptian security and armed forces arrested nine alleged terrorists in the Sinai desert operating under the command of al-Qaeda leader Ramzy Mowafy, Egypt’s Al-Ahram reported.

Mowafy was among 234 prisoners, including former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, who escaped from the Wadi al-Natrun Prison during the country’s January 2011 revolution.

Al-Ahram cited unnamed security officials who said the nine terrorists confessed to a plan to unite all of the region’s armed movements under the banner of the al-Egypt Free Army, founded by Mowafy to declare Sinai an Islamic emirate that would secede from Egypt.

The report said the prisoners include three members of al-Qaeda, two from the Mujahideen Shura Council, three from Hamas, one Palestinian and one from the Tawhid and Jihad group. They confessed to receiving funding from Mowafy and the Army of Islam Palestinians. One of the prisoners said their group includes about 150 members hiding in the Sinai mountains.

Their mission was to target army and police forces and, among their effects, security forces found detailed maps of the Suez Canal, and the ports bordering it, as well as military sites in northern Sinai, Suez and Alexandria. In addition, they found a list of the names of police and military officers in northern Sinai and addresses of some of them, including Abdel Fattah Sisi, Major General Sedky Sobhy, Chief of Staff, Major General Ahmed Wasfi, commander of Second Army, as well as names and addresses of prominent businessmen and journalists.

Al-Ahram said Mowafy worked with al-Qaeda from 1990 to 1992, and was a right-hand man to deceased al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, and his personal physician.

The report said Mowafy was arrested in 1996 on charges of belonging to al-Qaeda and planning to overthrow the government, converted to Shi’ism, and was sentenced to 31 years in prison, before escaping with Mohamed Morsi and other leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood in the jailbreak.

He then fled to the Sinai, and since that time founded a “jihad” cell that is likely responsible for the killing of Egyptian soldiers in Rafah last year, and all acts of terrorism in Sinai since then, including oil line bombings, attacks on security units and the kidnapping of Egyptian officers and soldiers.

Last month, an Egyptian court requested that Interpol help capture Mowafy, along with Hezbollah leader Samy Shehab, Hamas leaders Mohamed Hady and Ayman Nofal, all of whom escaped from the prison during the 2011 uprising and jailbreak.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/07/2...-seeks-to-declare-sinai-an-islamic-emirate-2/
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Two reported dead in Egypt after attack on Morsi supporters

Two people were killed and dozens injured in an attack early Wednesday on a demonstration by supporters of deposed Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi, the daily al-Ahram reported.

Police in plain clothes attacked the demonstrators using live ammunition, according to Gehad El-Haddad, a spokesman for Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood. There was no confirmation of the casualties from the Health Ministry.

Dozens have been killed since Morsi was ousted by the army on July 3 after mass street protests.

Morsi's supporters have been protesting in Cairo since his removal. They have vowed to continue their demonstrations until his reinstatement.

The Muslim Brotherhood is to boycott reconciliation talks proposed by interim President Adly Mansour, a spokesman for the Islamist group, Ahmed Aref, said late Tuesday, al-Ahram reported.

Groups associated with the Muslim Brotherhood would also shun the talks because they do not recognise the current government, he said.

In a televised speech on Monday interim President Adly Mansour called for national reconciliation to heal the rifts in society.

A bomb exploded in front of a police station in Mansura in the Nile Delta late Tuesday, injuring at least 14 police officers, al-Ahram reported citing security sources.


Source : Sapa-dpa /dm
Date : 24 Jul 2013 06:00
http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/da7718...ead-in-Egypt-after-attack-on-Morsi-supporters
 
Pressure Mounts for Morsi Release as 13 die in Egypt Clashes

Pressure was growing on Egypt's new leaders to release Mohamed Morsi from detention after clashes between supporters and opponents of the deposed Islamist president left 13 people dead.

The clashes broke out on Monday and raged into Tuesday, leaving dozens wounded alongside the fatalities, after Morsi's family vowed to sue the military over his ouster.

The interior ministry warned Tuesday it would deal with any lawlessness "firmly and decisively" while urging "everyone of all affiliations to maintain peaceful expressions of opinion" following the latest bloodshed.

Nine people were killed early Tuesday when opponents of Morsi attacked his supporters who staged a sit-in near Cairo University, the health ministry said, raising an earlier toll figure.

Four other people died late Monday, bringing the toll to 13 dead from 24 hours of clashes.

In the Al-Nahda area near the university, at least 16 cars had been torched in the clashes, an AFP correspondent said.

Later eight police officers were injured, some seriously, along with a number of civilians in a grenade attack at the Dahqaliya police station in the north, security forces said.

Morsi's family told a news conference on Monday they would take legal action against the military for having "kidnapped" the elected president after he was deposed in a popularly backed coup on July 3.

Egypt's new leadership says Morsi is in a "safe" place for his own good.

A spokesman for caretaker president Adly Mansour insisted that "Egypt is not a second Syria and anyone who pushes in that direction is a traitor."

Calls for Morsi's release have also been issued by the United States, Germany, the United Nations and the European Union.

"It is now of utmost importance that Egypt embarks on a transition, allowing a transfer of power to a civilian-led and democratically elected government," EU foreign ministers said on Monday.

They listed demands, including "the release of all political detainees, including Mohamed Morsi" -- reiterating remarks EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton made last week in Cairo.

Senior aides held with Morsi have asked their families for prison clothes, signalling possible charges, relatives said.

Khaled El-Qazzaz, the former president's secretary for foreign relations, and top adviser Essam El-Haddad made the request in telephone conversations last Friday, asking for white clothes, their relatives told AFP.

Prisoners awaiting trials or verdicts in Egypt wear white clothes, which may be provided by family members.

Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood movement has also vowed to sustain protests until his release and reinstatement, refusing to recognise the interim government installed by the military ahead of new elections early next year.

Tuesday's violence came a day after Morsi's supporters marched on the US embassy, setting off a gunfight with opponents in the nearby Tahrir Square that killed one protester.

Later in Qalyub, north of Cairo, street battles killed three people, one of them run over by a train as he tried to escape the violence.

Faced with the deadly clashes, interim president Mansour appealed in a speech delivered late on Monday for a "new page in the book of the history of the nation, without rancour, hatred and confrontation".

But Morsi's detention, and subsequent arrests of senior Brotherhood leaders, have hardened his supporters against dealing with the new regime.

His daughter Shaimaa Mohamed Morsi told reporters on Monday that the family would sue army chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and also take legal action outside Egypt.

Morsi's son Osama said the family had not heard from him since his overthrow. "None of us has had any contact with our father since the afternoon of the coup on July 3," he told reporters.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay summoned Egypt's ambassador to Geneva this month and wrote to the new authorities in Cairo demanding explanations over Morsi's arrest.

Members of the now-dissolved upper house of parliament, which had been dominated by Islamists, held a defiant meeting in Cairo's Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque.

Demonstrators have also hung pictures of the ousted president on the gates of the public prosecutor's office.

Although mostly peaceful, pro-Morsi protests have claimed more than 100 lives in all.

In the bloodiest single incident, at least 53 people, mostly Morsi supporters, were killed outside the Cairo headquarters of the Republican Guard on July 8.

The Brotherhood accuses the army of committing a "massacre," while the military says it was responding to a "terrorist" attack.


Source : Sapa-AFP /dm
Date : 24 Jul 2013 03:11
 
Security Tightened in Luxor after bid to storm airport

Egyptian authorities Thursday deployed army and police troops at key institutions in the southern city of Luxor after a foiled attempt by Islamist protesters to storm the city's airport, said security officials.

Armoured vehicles and tanks were positioned around the airport, museums, police buildings and hotels in Luxor, which is one of Egypt's key tourist locations.

The city's Muslim Brotherhood and allied Islamists have vowed to escalate their protests against the army's overthrow of president Mohammed Morsi earlier in the month.

"Any attempt to break the law, spread chaos or attack public or private buildings will be firmly dealt with," said a local security official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The unrest comes a day after Defence Minister Abdel-Fattah al-Sissi called on Egyptians to take to the streets on Friday to give the army a mandate to deal with what he called "violence and terrorism", signalling a possible crackdown on Islamists.

The Brotherhood, to which Morsi belongs, has denounced al-Sissi's call as inciting "civil war" and vowed huge protests on Friday.

The army deposed Morsi on July 3 after millions of Egyptians took to the streets demanding his resignation and an early presidential election.

The Brotherhood has condemned the Morsi's toppling as a coup and vowed to protest until he is restored to office.

Dozens have been killed in Egypt since Morsi's overthrow.


Source : Sapa-dpa /pk
Date : 25 Jul 2013 10:31
 
The unrest comes a day after Defence Minister Abdel-Fattah al-Sissi called on Egyptians to take to the streets on Friday to give the army a mandate to deal with what he called "violence and terrorism", signalling a possible crackdown on Islamists.

The Brotherhood, to which Morsi belongs, has denounced al-Sissi's call as inciting "civil war" and vowed huge protests on Friday.
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Should be an interesting day...
 
Egypt on Edge ahead of Rival Rallies, Looming Crackdown

Tense Egypt braced Friday for a showdown in the streets between supporters of ousted president Mohamed Morsi and his army-backed opponents, who have called rival rallies across the Arab world's most populous country.

Tensions soared when the military reportedly gave Morsi's backers until the end of Friday to end sit-in protests they began after the army deposed the Islamist president on July 3.

Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood and allied Islamist groups have vowed to press their protests until he is reinstated and have sharpened the rhetoric by warning of "civil war", while calling for a huge turnout on the streets on Friday.

Army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi had earlier in the week set the scene for a potential showdown by calling for mass Friday rallies to give him a mandate, he said, to counter "terrorism and violence".

Western nations are watching the crisis in Egypt with growing unease, fearing the military's vow to return the nation to democracy may be little more than a fig leaf to mask a prolonged power grab.

The United States has refused to term the army's overthrow of Morsi a "coup," which would trigger an automatic freeze of some $1.5 billion in aid.

But it did finally send the interim leaders a veiled warning on Wednesday by suspending the delivery of four promised F-16 fighter jets.

"The interim government's strategy clearly consists of politically sidelining the Muslim Brotherhood until the elections," said German Middle East expert Michael Lueders.

He voiced fears Friday's rallies could explode into violence that could determine the nation's direction, saying Sisi was "playing a dangerous game" given the deep polarisation.

Although Egypt's military has insisted it was not targeting Morsi's supporters in its call for the rallies, the potential for bloodshed is large in a country that has been convulsed by violence in the past three weeks, with some 200 people killed since Morsi's ouster.

London-based rights group Amnesty International criticised Sisi's call for rallies, in a statement Thursday.

"Given the security forces' routine use of excessive force, such a move is likely to lead to yet more unlawful killings," said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui, Amnesty's deputy director of its Middle East and North Africa programme.

Police said they would deploy in numbers to prevent incidents, as Morsi's camp sought to defuse tension by proposing a three-stage roadmap that would start with confidence-building steps.

Egypt's military, however, has upped the ante by setting a 48-hour deadline, which expires late on Friday, after which it will decisively deal with "violence and terrorism," according to a statement posted on a military-linked Facebook account.

Once the deadline expires, it said, "the strategy for dealing with violence and terrorism will change... appropriately to guarantee security and stability".

A senior army official told AFP the statement did not reflect the military's point of view, although it appeared on a "page with links to the armed forces".

"The 48-hour ultimatum is a political invitation," the officer said. "It doesn't mean after 48 hours we are going to crack down."

Many see the comments, however, as a warning that the security forces are planning to move in against pro-Morsi protesters who have been camped outside Cairo's Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque since his ouster.

On Thursday, the fugitive leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohamed Badie, sharpened the tone by urging Egyptians to make a "stand for freedom and legitimacy, and against the bloody coup", although he insisted this should be done peacefully.

Senior Brotherhood leader Essam al-Erian said Morsi loyalists would not be intimidated by the army chief's call for mass rallies. "Your threat will not prevent millions from continuously protesting," Erian wrote on Facebook.

On a more conciliatory note, Hisham Qandil, prime minister before Morsi was toppled, Thursday proposed a three-stage roadmap that would start with confidence-building steps.

In a video recording posted on YouTube, the former premier said both sides should refrain from marches and hold rallies only in fixed locations.

He also called for the release of prisoners detained in the days leading up to Morsi's ouster by the military, and those detained since.

A delegation should be allowed to visit Morsi, detained by the army since his overthrow, to check on his health, he added.

UN chief Ban Ki-moon has demanded that Morsi and his high-level backers "be released or have their cases reviewed transparently without delay," said deputy UN spokesman Eduardo del Buey.


Source : Sapa-AFP /nsm
Date : 26 Jul 2013 09:03
 
Egypt Prosecutor Orders Morsi held over Hamas Ties

Egypt's state prosecutor has ordered that ousted president Mohamed Morsi be detained for questioning over suspected collaboration with Palestinian militant group Hamas, official MENA news agency reported Friday.

Morsi will be quizzed on whether he collaborated with Hamas in attacks on police stations and prison breaks in early 2011, in which the Islamist and other political inmates escaped during the revolt against strongman Hosni Mubarak, it said.


Source : Sapa-AFP /nsm
Date : 26 Jul 2013 10:40
 
Clashes in Cairo between Morsi Supporters, Opponents

Clashes broke out between supporters and opponents of ousted president Mohamed Morsi in the Cairo neighbourhood of Shubra on Friday, witnesses told AFP.

The clashes erupted early in the afternoon, the witnesses said. Live footage on satellite station ONTV showed crowds throwing rocks at each other in the neighbourhood.

Morsi's supporters and backers of the military that overthrew him on July 3 are both staging rival rallies across Egypt.

Witnesses said the clashes in Cairo began after Morsi's opponents, who rallied at the behest of the military, burned posters of the ousted Islamist leader.


Source : Sapa-AFP /nsm
Date : 26 Jul 2013 14:43
 
Garyvdh said:
Clashes broke out between supporters and opponents of ousted president Mohamed Morsi in the Cairo neighbourhood of Shubra on Friday, witnesses told AFP.

The clashes erupted early in the afternoon, the witnesses said. Live footage on satellite station ONTV showed crowds throwing rocks at each other in the neighbourhood.

Morsi's supporters and backers of the military that overthrew him on July 3 are both staging rival rallies across Egypt.

Witnesses said the clashes in Cairo began after Morsi's opponents, who rallied at the behest of the military, burned posters of the ousted Islamist leader.


Source : Sapa-AFP /nsm
Date : 26 Jul 2013 14:43
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Military supporters?
You get Morsi supporters, anti Morsi then military supporters.
Anti Morsi supporters are NOT military supporters.
When will the media understand that.
 
Morsi Supporters Flock to Join Rally

Thousands of supporters of ousted president Mohamed Morsi flocked to join a mass rally at a Cairo square on Friday, as Egypt braced for a tense day of rival political protests.

Buses and cars shuttled Morsi's backers to Rabaa al-Adawiya square, centre of demonstrations in support of the Islamist leader since his overthrow on July 3.

"I am here to support the real president of Egypt, we are going to protest here peacefully," El-Baz Abu Maati, who had just arrived from the Nile Delta city of Mansura, told AFP, as hundreds of Morsi supporters streamed past him, making their way calmly to the square.

Guards at the entrance to the protest camp patted people down and searched bags for weapons as the crowds arrived, checking ID cards.

Nearby, men wearing hard hats and carrying makeshift clubs watched over the new arrivals anxiously.

Thousands were already massed in the square itself, where the mood was mostly subdued as Morsi's supporters waited in the scorching heat for the rally to begin.

Some stole a few moments sleep before the rally, while others read from the Koran.

The fugitive leader of Muslim Brotherhood Mohamed Badie on Thursday urged Egyptians to rally "against the bloody coup" that ousted Morsi, but to do so peacefully.

Badie's call came after army chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi had earlier called for rallies on Friday to give him a mandate to fight "terrorism and violence".

Many at Rabaa al-Adawiya square repeated that they wanted to protest peacefully.

"We are not afraid of the army, and we have the legal right to do anything," said Magdy Ahmed, who had come from Minya.

"We are peaceful," he stressed, patting himself down to show he was carrying nothing other than the prayer mat he had brought to sit on.

However, Abbas al-Ibrahim was adamant he would defend himself against any attack on the peaceful demonstration.

"We will kill everyone who kills our freedom," he shouted.

"We voted for this president ... now we will die in this place to secure his return," he added.

Political unrest across Egypt has killed nearly 200 people since the massive protests on June 30 that led to Morsi's overthrow.

Both sides have traded accusations that they have been attacked by the other.

Past the entrance to the square, vendors were doing a brisk trade selling Morsi masks, badges and posters, one of which read "Friday of victory -victory is close".

A small group crowded around a battered truck loaded with speakers playing "Hold your head high, you're Egyptian," a song urging unity between all Egyptians.

The group danced and waved Egyptian flags as they sang, while men carrying tanks of water on their backs sprayed crowds to cool them down.

Others arriving in the square chanted "Islamic, Islamic" as they headed to the main stage in the square. One of the group held a copy of the Koran above his head, chanting: "We have no weapons other than this".

Ahmed Helmy, 50, a university professor, had come to voice his outrage at the military-backed overthrow of Morsi, travelling from the central province of Asiut at four in the morning.

"We have been waiting for more than 60 years for the first civilian, elected president since the military coup of 1952," he said.

Student Omar Abou El-Khair, 19, from the United States, had travelled from Mansura, where he was visiting his family during his university holidays.

"What Sisi did was a military coup, it was nothing like the first revolution," he said.

"I come to Egypt every two years because I care about this country, and what goes on here. That's why I'm spending my vacation here instead of chilling on a beach somewhere".


Source : Sapa-AFP /nsm
Date : 26 Jul 2013 16:02
 
Dozens of Morsi Supporters killed in Clashes

Dozens of Mohamed Morsi's supporters were killed Saturday in Egypt's capital as violence erupted at mass rallies for and against the ousted Islamist president, medics and the Muslim Brotherhood said.

The bloodshed came hours after the military-backed interior minister, Mohammed Ibrahim, warned a long-running sit-in in Cairo by Morsi loyalists would be ended "in the framework of the law".

The army ousted Morsi in a popularly backed coup on July 3, and tens of thousands of supporters from his Brotherhood have since been camped outside the city's Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque in a defiant bid to get him reinstated.

At least 75 Morsi supporters were killed in clashes with police and another 1,000 wounded on the road to Cairo airport on Saturday morning, doctors at an Islamist-organised field hospital said.

A Brotherhood leader, Murad Ali, told AFP that police had fired live rounds, but the official MENA news agency cited a security official it did not identify as denying the police used any live bullets.

Running battles broke out at dawn on the road to Cairo international airport, with police firing tear gas at stone-throwing protesters, MENA said.

Buckshot was fired, but it was unclear from which side.

Thousands of supporters and opponents of the coup also took to the streets of the Mediterranean city of Alexandria, sparking fierce clashes that killed seven people and wounded 194.

The bloodshed came as the interim interior minister said the military-backed government would move swiftly to break up the Islamist protest camp in the Nasr City district of Cairo.

"There will be decisions from the prosecutor soon, and this situation will be ended," Mohammed Ibrahim told satellite television channel Al-Hayat.

Army chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who orchestrated the coup, had called for a mass show of support on Friday for a crackdown on "terrorism".

Hundreds of thousands of anti-Morsi protesters obliged and gathered in Cairo's Tahrir Square and around the Itihadiya presidential palace.

A spokesman for army-installed president Adly Mansour said the numbers "affirmed the rejection of terrorism," MENA said.

But the Islamist Anti-Coup Coalition said Friday's turnout by its supporters proved that those who took part in the rallies "reject the bloody, military fascist coup that wants to set the wheel of history back".

"We believe the next two days will be decisive in the history of Egypt," the group said.

The violence came after the authorities charged Morsi with murder and formally remanded him in custody for 15 days. He had been held without charge since hours after his ouster.

Morsi stands accused of the "premeditated murder of some prisoners, officers and soldiers" when he broke out of prison during the 2011 uprising that toppled veteran strongman Hosni Mubarak, MENA said.

The ousted Islamist was also suspected of conspiring to "storm prisons and destroy them... allowing prisoners to escape, including himself".

On June 23, a court said Hamas militants facilitated the escape of prisoners during the 18-day uprising that forced out Mubarak.

Detention orders of the type issued by the court against Morsi are usually followed by moving a suspect to prison. The military has so far kept Morsi's whereabouts secret to avoid attracting protests by his supporters.

Gehad El-Haddad, a Brotherhood spokesman, denounced the detention order, saying Mubarak's regime was "signalling 'we're back in full force.'"

Egypt, the Arab world's most populous country of 84 million people, has been rocked by violence that has killed some 200 people since the coup.

The army has said there will be no reneging on a roadmap to fresh elections next year.

But the Brotherhood and allied Islamist groups have rejected the interim government and vowed to press their protests until Morsi is reinstated.

Western governments are watching the crisis in Egypt with growing unease, fearing the military may be angling for a prolonged power grab.

The United States has decided not to label the army's overthrow of Morsi a "coup", a move that would trigger an automatic freeze of some $1.5 billion (1.1 billion euros) in aid, a US official said.

Nevertheless Washington on Wednesday suspended the delivery of four promised F-16 fighter jets.

Egypt's military is also facing a low-level insurgency in the Sinai Peninsula, which borders Israel. Militants killed a civilian and wounded five soldiers in attacks in the region on Friday.


Source : Sapa-AFP /aa
Date : 27 Jul 2013 09:58
 
Since the Egypt uprising, 4 trains have derailed, 2 plane crashes...
Some looney guy at a friend bday says they linked.
Mmmmmmm
 
killadoob said:
If you want some looney http://www.raptureforums.com/BibleProphecy/101lastdays.cfm

Antichrist part of the end times, obama? Not the i am a big believer in the bible. Interesting though.
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Not looney at all. About 5 years ago I attended a bible conference thing. What is now called the Arab spring was discussed. I didn't give much credit to social media being able to drive such an event. Only after the London riots did it make sense.
All the Abrahamic religions speak of the signs of the end.
 
Haldex said:
Not looney at all. About 5 years ago I attended a bible conference thing. What is now called the Arab spring was discussed. I didn't give much credit to social media being able to drive such an event. Only after the London riots did it make sense.
All the Abrahamic religions speak of the signs of the end.
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While i do agree with you, i do think they take what the bible says and apply it to the times. So they are just taking things said in the bible and applying them to the situation as it currently is. So many ways to interpret the bible, Nostradamus, mayans etc.

However i do think humanity is entering a period where our species will begin to die off, mainly due to our destruction of the planet and resource war that will eventually happen. We are bound to wipe out our own species at some point along with many other species we are already wiping out.
 
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Ban warns Egypt leaders over Demonstration deaths

UN leader Ban Ki-moon warned Egypt's interim leadership on Sunday that every death in demonstrations is making it harder to drag the country out of its crisis, a spokeswoman said.

Ban spoke with Vice President Mohamed ElBaradei and the foreign ministers of Turkey and Qatar and the head of the Arab League to highlight his "profound concern" over the worsening turmoil in Egypt, said a UN spokeswoman Morana Song.

In talks with ElBaradei, Ban renewed a call for Egypt's military to release ousted president Mohamed Morsi or give him a "transparent" investigation and trial, said the spokeswoman.

Ban "expressed his profound concern about the direction in which the transition in Egypt is moving" and condemned the heightened violence. He raised his fears one day after 72 people were killed in a Cairo demonstration.

"He called on the interim authorities to assume full responsibility for the peaceful management of the demonstrations and to ensure the protection of all Egyptians, regardless of party affiliation," said Song.

Ban said there had to be a "genuinely inclusive, peaceful political process" and "underlined that with every new death this long-term reconciliation becomes harder."

In calls with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Sheikh Hamad bin Jassem al-Thani of Qatar and Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi, Ban "shared his deep alarm about the situation in Egypt, and the unacceptable loss of life over the past two days."

Ban told the ministers all Egyptian leaders had "to urge their supporters to show restraint, curb their anger, and try to engage in a meaningful reconciliation process," said Song. tw/mdl


Source : Sapa-AFP /dm
Date : 29 Jul 2013 00:27
 
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