This is how "water-shifting" will work

semaphore said:
But it's okay guy, at least you got some water. How dare you question the overloads.
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Exactly! Did you have water before 1994? No? Well you can thank us for the 1 hour a day of water you do have then!
rvZA said:
Stop being negative. Things are not as bad as they seem. This is happening in many countries and not exclusively to SA.
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I'm sure it is ... in the other 3rd world countries run by Kleptocrats. I mean, we should always be thankful that we are still on our way to the bottom, and haven't got there yet.
 
AchmatK said:
I'm off grid with water since 2018 but sometimes tap into the municipal supply when I have to do maintenance if there's an issue with the pumps.

Over 2.4Ml pumped so far. Up side to no water bills is that there's also no sanitation charges as coct links water usage to the sanitation charge. View attachment 1599076
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Please share how.
 
mylesillidge said:
Load-shedding for water in South Africa — how it will work

Johannesburg and its surrounds, at the centre of the industrial heartland of South Africa, have been hit by severe water cuts. Water interruptions have been happening for years, but they have been scaled up dramatically in recent weeks.

The deteriorating situation recently forced the Minister of Water and Sanitation, Senzo Mchunu, to intervene.
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This is going to see more people installing JoJo tanks. Which will just further exacerbate the issue.
 
On paper "water shifting" isn't a terrible idea in terms of distributing surplus water into depleted areas, the problem is that we know the anc connected tenderprenuers is going to do minimal, if any, maintenance work to fix issues that caused water shifting to become necessary, while stealing the money paid for the over inflated tenders. Eventually water trucks are going to become the norm.

Flanders said:
As interim as is 2007 - present day no doubt.
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Sounds like typical software fixes, temporary fixes that become permanent.

Priapus said:
He is very lucky. Has high water table and drilled a borehole and without much effort has pretty much unlimited free water.
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Also minimally polluted water or a very good/extensive filter system.
 
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Another great success story for the ANC, took them less than 30 years as well which is even more impressive. Just imagine how well they can **** up what's left of the country in the next 30 years.
 
petum said:
Please share how.
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I'm less than 100m from a river and have a high water table with water at less than 3m.

I dug a well by hand which fills a water tank and from there into the house.

Water was tested and passed. I only have a submersible UV light in the water tank and no other filters needed.

I've got a thread here when I started the project. Can't find it now.

With all the rains I've the list few weeks the water table is even higher now with water at 1m below the surface.
 
At least setting up a JoJo tank and pump is much cheaper than installing solar. A number of people in my area have already installed boreholes as well. There is very little trust in the anc.
 
RonSwanson said:
An obvious solution, until everyone starts doing it, and the water table drops. Got to budget for some serious maintenance every now and then.
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I don’t think that will be as common as people just installing jojo tanks and storing as much water as possible. Which is the bigger future issue
 
B-1 said:
At least setting up a JoJo tank and pump is much cheaper than installing solar. A number of people in my area have already installed boreholes as well. There is very little trust in the anc.
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Yep, it is, but it needs an area of reasonably constant rainfall. There are some areas along the coast that have this, but the vast majority is seasonal, which leave you high and dry for a few months.
A borehole is a whole new ballgame, CAPEX is dependent on the level of the water table, and the pump to get it to storage from 75-100m underground is electromechanical, so regular maintenance.
 
Priapus said:
I don’t think that will be as common as people just installing jojo tanks and storing as much water as possible. Which is the bigger future issue
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Yes, just the CAPEX alone is very expensive for a 100m hole. I got a quote 3 years back, wasn't an exact figure because no-one could tell me the depth of the water table in my area, so basically a blank cheque. I do recall that drilling to 100m was cost prohibitive at the time.
 
What many don't realize, is that the level of water losses owing to poor maintenance is as much as 40% in the example of Tshwane. This is straight from an engineer who works with Water Affairs. There is a decades-long backlog of work to sort out the water reticulation.
 
Timber_MG said:
What many don't realize, is that the level of water losses owing to poor maintenance is as much as 40% in the example of Tshwane. This is straight from an engineer who works with Water Affairs. There is a decades-long backlog of work to sort out the water reticulation.
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The article says 41%.
 
RonSwanson said:
Yes, just the CAPEX alone is very expensive for a 100m hole. I got a quote 3 years back, wasn't an exact figure because no-one could tell me the depth of the water table in my area, so basically a blank cheque. I do recall that drilling to 100m was cost prohibitive at the time.
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Pretty much. It’s a gamble. Still until you find water. If you don’t. Pay up anyway.
 
RonSwanson said:
Yep, it is, but it needs an area of reasonably constant rainfall. There are some areas along the coast that have this, but the vast majority is seasonal, which leave you high and dry for a few months.
A borehole is a whole new ballgame, CAPEX is dependent on the level of the water table, and the pump to get it to storage from 75-100m underground is electromechanical, so regular maintenance.
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You can also fill the tank from the municipal water. Essentially keeping a weeks worth of water is fairly cheap to do. That way you should be immune to "water shedding" for the most part as the tank will fill when there is rain or its your turn to have water.
You can then add more tanks as needed.
 
B-1 said:
You can also fill the tank from the municipal water. Essentially keeping a weeks worth of water is fairly cheap to do. That way you should be immune to "water shedding" for the most part as the tank will fill when there is rain or its your turn to have water.
You can then add more tanks as needed.
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Only if the assumption that the water will be flowing sometime is true. Also the assumption that that which flows is potable.

Both are poor assumptions to make IMHO, especially with the ANC in charge of the munis. Their track record in this regard speaks for itself, and I am not convinced that the DA is any better, because disgruntled floor-crossing ANC councillors don't automatically become competent overnight.
 
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