This is how "water-shifting" will work

[Lupus]

Okay so has anyone actually read the articles properly?
Water shifting is just that, in the past a lot of the big pumping stations were isolated so if they had a failure and couldn't supply water, you were out of luck.
Water shifting has now integrated more of the network with tie ins, that big outage earlier for JHB was one example where they were doing tie ins.
So what this means, if say one of the pumping stations can't pump and water is low elsewhere, they can try get water from another pumping station to shift water to that area.
Well that's the theory if they can actually do it we will have to see.

 

[B-1]

Only if the assumption that the water will be flowing sometime is true. Also the assumption that that which flows is potable.

Both are poor assumptions to make IMHO, especially with the ANC in charge of the munis. Their track record in this regard speaks for itself, and I am not convinced that the DA is any better, because disgruntled floor-crossing ANC councillors don't automatically become competent overnight.

That's how it goes in most 3rd world countries. Things like water infrastructure don't totally collapse they are just unreliable. If the water totally stops there will be much larger issues and we won't be living in our individual housing anymore.

If you have a weeks worth of normal water usage that is easily a few months worth if you are conserving it. I'm lucky as we have 2 boreholes that were installed in our estate so my small water tank is sufficient to maintain a "normal" lifestyle.

 

[lord-of-war]

That's how it goes in most 3rd world countries. Things like water infrastructure don't totally collapse they are just unreliable. If the water totally stops there will be much larger issues and we won't be living in our individual housing anymore.

If you have a weeks worth of normal water usage that is easily a few months worth if you are conserving it. I'm lucky as we have 2 boreholes that were installed in our estate so my small water tank is sufficient to maintain a "normal" lifestyle.

Lucky, which estate is that?

 

[RonSwanson]

Lucky, which estate is that?

There are many estates in the PE area that have boreholes, it's a product of decades worth of municipal mismanagement, ineptitude and government's lack of foresight. Most of them do not provide potable water without filtration though, but it is ok for watering the garden, filling the pool and showering / bathing.

 

[Priapus]

Okay so has anyone actually read the articles properly?
Water shifting is just that, in the past a lot of the big pumping stations were isolated so if they had a failure and couldn't supply water, you were out of luck.
Water shifting has now integrated more of the network with tie ins, that big outage earlier for JHB was one example where they were doing tie ins.
So what this means, if say one of the pumping stations can't pump and water is low elsewhere, they can try get water from another pumping station to shift water to that area.
Well that's the theory if they can actually do it we will have to see.

That's not how I understood it. The way I understand it, is some areas will go with our water for a bit, to feed other areas in times of need. Much like Load Shedding.

 

[dualmeister]

Yet another "achievement" that they ANC can add their with long list.

 

[Lupus]

That's not how I understood it. The way I understand it, is some areas will go with our water for a bit, to feed other areas in times of need. Much like Load Shedding.

It's in the article this is linked to

The plan is to begin “sharing” water to take the pressure off the worst affected areas. By and large, high-lying areas of the city have been the hardest hit.

The reason for this is that the distribution of water requires pressure, which comes from a water source – a reservoir or water tower. When pressure is lost within the system, high-lying areas are usually affected first as there is not enough pressure in the system to get the water to them.

Pressure is lost when reservoirs reach critically low levels. This can happen as a result of leakages, burst pipes, above-average water consumption or power outages which affect pump stations.

Any of these can lead to pressure decreasing at a rapid rate.

Johannesburg’s water utility, Rand Water, plans to shift water from a reticulation system with sufficient pressure to a struggling system. The idea is to provide an equitable supply of water to municipal customers.

Notice the first line, sharing water... If they had said they wanted to do water limiting to build up reserves then sure, it would mean they limit one area while building up another, but this is shifting from an area that has sufficient pressure (water) to assist another area.

The water limiting isn't a new thing and has actually been happening.

Joburg Water implements restrictions in parts of city

Joburg Water will restrict water supply in a number of its reservoirs because of water shortage from its supplier Rand Water.

www.timeslive.co.za

Rand Water limits water flow across Gauteng to avoid 'complete system crash'

Rand Water says it has taken this decision in order to stabilise and avoid the emptying of reservoirs and a "complete system crash."

ewn.co.za

Rand Water implements stage 2 water restrictions in Joburg | The Citizen

Rand Water will implement stage 2 water restrictions on their Eikenhof, Zwartkopjes and Palmiet pump stations.

www.citizen.co.za

 

[cda]

Stop being negative. Things are not as bad as they seem. This is happening in many countries and not exclusively to SA.

And yet Im so glad I left

 

[RaptorSA]

Learn from Book of Eli.
Start storing those wet wipes.



So basically the modus operandi is as follows:

- Get solar
- Get Jojo
- Get reinforced windows and doors
- Learn how to make black powder
- Learn how to build pipe bombs and spears
- Get used to the taste of most domestic pets
- Charge laptop and use Google Earth if you want a break from work or a holiday
- Stop taking breaks and learn to use Fiber optic cables to weave baskets and build snare traps

I could have filled about 7 swimming pools with the leak/river we had outside our complex for a week now.
Jhb water rocked up this morning in their brand new Toyota double cab, they're busy staring the burst pipe into submission.

The future is bright.

 

[Ninja]

And yet Im so glad I left

youre not the only one

 

[Mystic Twilight]

and the pump to get it to storage from 75-100m underground is electromechanical, so regular maintenance.

What sort of maintenance is needed? From my experience the actual pump in the borehole has minimal regular maintenance, I've had a pump submerged for over 5 years in a hole and the only time I had to pull it up was for replacing electronics from lightning damage.

 

[SlowInternet]

Stop being negative. Things are not as bad as they seem. This is happening in many countries and not exclusively to SA.

Glad you think so but being without water for 40 days is unacceptable.

 

[rvZA]

Glad you think so but being without water for 40 days is unacceptable.

It is indeed. But, it is the circumstances we find ourselves in. Be positive and live around it... we will survive and well will get out on top.

 

[Next Thing]

This is great news. Protect our water supply and infrastructure at all costs. This is important for all people of the country, especially the poor.

How about you anc lakeys actually do some forward planning

 

[Next Thing]

Stop being negative. Things are not as bad as they seem. This is happening in many countries and not exclusively to SA.

Need to get your head out your arse and see how bad it actually is on the ground
This lovely ANC goverment has just been coasting on everything built pre 1994, improved nothing and not even maintaining what was given. 30 years down the line unmaintened things are now breaking down and the lack of forward planning and putting new infrastructure in place is now killing everyone.

 

[RonSwanson]

What sort of maintenance is needed? From my experience the actual pump in the borehole has minimal regular maintenance, I've had a pump submerged for over 5 years in a hole and the only time I had to pull it up was for replacing electronics from lightning damage.

How many hours has it run? Definitely not 5 years continuously.

Your pump manufacturer will tell you what the maintenance schedule is, how often will depend on its installation depth, the water quality, clarity, temperature and how long its duty cycle is. Do you monitor pump temperature and water levels?

 

[RonSwanson]

It is indeed. But, it is the circumstances we find ourselves in. Be positive and live around it... we will survive and well will get out on top.

If I didn't know you any better, I'd be convinced that you are a bi-polar manic depressive

 

[rvZA]

If I didn't know you any better, I'd be convinced that you are a bi-polar manic depressive

I am a very positive person of late on request of MyBroadband users.

 

[LCBXX]

Fscking around with fresh water-supply is not the same as fscking around with electricity-supply.

Desperately thirsty people are not going to sit around and wait for their turn to have water.

 

[Flanders]

What is SOP with boreholes? Do you pump an amount to cover your storage up on the ground and then repeat when necessary? What is the normal sort of power draw associated with borehole pumps? Am I correct in thinking you'd need the borehole pump and then another regular +/-750W water pump (assuming you're not pumping uphill multiple storeys) to move it from storage to house?