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Local VPS/Cloud providers = Game Over

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With Azure landing on our shores by the end of this year, a welcomed cloud hosting provider to the country, filling a gap very few seem to be able to provide (locally). Considering with most companies preferring to use cloud based products over on-premises or ISP hosted dedicated servers/VPS, adoption of Azure in SA is likely to skyrocket.

The big question though, how does this affect local providers? Number of companies who provide true cloud hosting can be counted on a couple of fingers (at most), while there are a number of VPS providers.

Do you think there is still a gap for the cloud/VPS providers out there, or is this Game Over for them?
 
Very much going to come down to the company, their specific needs and their budget available for these types of things..

For smaller companies who don't need the advanced features the big cloud guys provide and can't afford to use them, will likely carry on with the current local providers..
 
Azure has some amazing offerings but probably tends to work out more expensive than traditional hosting for some use cases, or for that matter, some traditional on premise workloads so I think there is room for the traditional hosting providers for a while yet.
 
Working overseas currently and it seems that most Hosting providers just add Azure or AWS as an option to their portfolio. So if you want Azure then they can help you and if you want something cheaper then they have an option as well.

I do think they will lose out in the end as they won't be able to keep up with the Dynamic Scaling abilities of Public Cloud. Once software is better optimized to leverage that ability I don't think normal Hosting providers will be able to keep up.
 
I find Azure really expensive compared to dedicated servers overseas, but compared to local pricing...
 
mister said:
I find Azure really expensive compared to dedicated servers overseas, but compared to local pricing...
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Have you guys actually looked at go2cloud.co.za

Their pricing is really affordable especially if you look at Linux containers.

Also you only pay for what you use, so you can spec 16GB ram and only pay for the 2GB or whatever you container actually used. This is also true for CPU and HDD.

Have been using them after accidentally stumbling across them and could not understand why it’s a secret.

For the record: I am just a customer and in no way benefit from sharing this.
 
Duan said:
Have you guys actually looked at go2cloud.co.za

Their pricing is really affordable especially if you look at Linux containers.

Also you only pay for what you use, so you can spec 16GB ram and only pay for the 2GB or whatever you container actually used. This is also true for CPU and HDD.

Have been using them after accidentally stumbling across them and could not understand why it’s a secret.

For the record: I am just a customer and in no way benefit from sharing this.
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They may be great, but I question any so-called cloud company who can't even be bothered to have their website be reachable over the naked domain :/ ..
 
The real value proposition for Azure lies in scalability. If you are going to migrate workload 1:1 from on premises, it will work out a lot more expensive in the long run IMO. But once you start scaling based on either performance requirements, or event triggers it becomes more powerful.

It also takes a lot out from a cost perspective for a company when you reduce your DC footprint.

The same is likely true for AWS, although I have not worked too much with it.

A downside (upside from a finance view) of cloud however, is that when a company moves from on premises to cloud, it can reduce the number of people you need to employ as you would need fewer people managing and maintaining the environment.
 
Duan said:
Have you guys actually looked at go2cloud.co.za

Their pricing is really affordable especially if you look at Linux containers.

Also you only pay for what you use, so you can spec 16GB ram and only pay for the 2GB or whatever you container actually used. This is also true for CPU and HDD.

Have been using them after accidentally stumbling across them and could not understand why it’s a secret.

For the record: I am just a customer and in no way benefit from sharing this.
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Played with a trial account last night but the speed to/from the server was not that good.
 
I'd like to point out that your guarantees with the big providers like Azure, Google and especially AWS is very consistent.

Meaning if you pay $x you get what you pay for and exactly that.

The small companies over provision like nobody's business, so the stated specs don't really tell you what you are getting. Have a noisy neighbor, too bad, they are 99% of the time not even monitoring their servers properly.

The smaller local and international companies really can't compete. So yeah sure, big companies seem expensive until you need to utilize that capacity up to its stated specs. At which point the gaps become obvious.

If you compare something like Spot instances on AWS, you can forget about any small company being able to compete.
Amazon is selling at a loss with Spot to keep capacity used.

This is aside from the benefits like consistent network performance, reliability and automation.
It is irksome that small companies rely on their customers to let them know the machine is having a hardware problem.
The big providers send you an email and automatically move your stuff to another machine.
If they even need to tell you, because some providers just do live migration (move stuff while your machine is running transparently)
The list goes on
 
There are those people who will take a long time before they will trust Azure (because of who owns it) and will on principal go with the little guy.
 
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