http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=475134
Nice and to the point. Wish the main man himself would just listen.
Nice and to the point. Wish the main man himself would just listen.
-
Join the MyBroadband community
South Africa’s biggest forum. Discuss, discover, and connect with thousands of members.
-
Question of the Day: Will you be subscribing to the new Disney+ R49 streaming package?
Time for Zuma to go
- Thread starter Jozi101
- Start date
I don't think so...If the people nominate him that means as a comrade he must heed the call of duty. It's not up to him but the people can decide and seal his fate...No one in the ANC is without controversy at the moment. Zuma should be around to serve as a thorn in the side of those with presidential aspirations. They need to convince people that they are beyond reproach by showing strong leadership. Playing at Zuma's misfortunes is cheap...at some point Zuma will be gone probably to jail and then what...?
So you think it's ok for him to be in the running with all his "Issues" hanging over his head? I just feel that his reputation is way too tainted for him to even be considering standing for elections.
Of course its up to him whether to run for president! Once he's made that decision then if he decides to run its up to the electorate whether or not to elect him.
Then SA will be in a much better place.
Agreed, but you wanna know what's funny? Zuma is not in charge of what is happening with his campaining/not campaining. My question though is why are ANCYL, Cosatu so against people declaring their availability to stand for elections?
What do you mean he's not in charge? I agree he's probably a figurehead for certain interests like the ANCYL etc. but if he made a public statement tomorrow that he wasn't interested and wasn't going to run it'd be pretty definitive. Presumably they're against people declaring availability because Zuma already has, although not officially, so if they can make him look like the only viable candidate it strengthens him. Not very democratic though.
MacNabs
Senior Member
Zuma will be the next president. 
He is still the deputy president of the ANC, and the people will vote him in.
He is still the deputy president of the ANC, and the people will vote him in.
Zuma will be the next president.
He is still the deputy president of the ANC, and the people will vote him in.
You're forgetting that the people don't vote for a president in South Africa. That is all up to the regional branches of the ANC. Which is a shame if you ask me, because everyone knows how corrupt they are. They only think of their pockets. So ultimnately, the fact that this so called succession race will be determined behind close doors through underhand dealings and threats to individuals (If you don't vote for Zuma, you lose your overcompensated job). It's already started in KZN. Reports of smear campaigns, etc etc.
I suppose all of this is justified in the ANCYL's eyes because "ANC leaders don't campain" rather they "Get called up for duty".
Pathetic.
Last edited:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that exactly how it is here in South Africa? The South African people do not vote for a president, they vote for a party...
Would you prefer something like the US-style primary system?
Yes it is, and i have a big problem with that. Leaving such an important decision to a bunch of city officials who's jobs might be on the line depending on who they side with doesn't leve me with a warm feeling.
As a matter of fact i would. That would mean that the people can judge the individual based on his actions and utterances. Currently the ANC even denies that there is a succession race going on, so the people don't have a clue who they want, or who's in the running. Whoever the ANC branches back, is gonna be our president.
It does seem like a better option, especially in a situation like here where the ANC president is the de facto SA president.
Maybe there should be a restriction on that: maybe one like "The ANC president can not be the country's president"
Maybe but the practical effect would be negligible, the ANC would still effectively choose the country's president within its own structures. It would decentralise power a bit I suppose. IIRC the USSR put a similar restriction in place after Stalin, that one person couldn't be Communist Party Secretary-General and the country's president at the same time, or something similar. Not the best example to be following though.
