Too white to study medicine

As far as I know it was not her strategy to apply to 39 firms, she had to apply because of the other rejections and not hearing from others.

Should I ask my white female friend starting articles in January at a "top 5" firm's Cape Town office how she managed to get the job despite having no racial advantage over your friend?

Sorry to resort to such crass sarcasm but I still don't see how your friend can conclude that race is the determining factor in her inability to find a job.
 
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Doing CA now. Not my interest but at least there are still jobs. Just a hectic amount of work to qualify. What I find strange is there are very little, almost no black CA's but yet I would say there are about 80% non white writing exams.

All the best with the CA. :).

Funny thing is the degree I did was not my interest but now I fully enjoy the related profession.
 
I will speak to her maybe tomorrow and see if she can come to the forum in off topic then you can all debate to your hearts content and maybe you burn can ask your white female friend to join us.
 
Doing CA now. Not my interest but at least there are still jobs. Just a hectic amount of work to qualify. What I find strange is there are very little, almost no black CA's but yet I would say there are about 80% non white writing exams.

I know a few black people who got degrees in bcom accounting but failed their honours a few years in a row. They then started their articles and doing honours through unisa.

I'm also doing bcom and aiming for CA, any advice would really help. :)
 
Doing medicine these days is not simply about marks, it is also about reasons for doing it and where you are going to practise.

In Aus there is extra emphasis on getting more doctors in the country areas -they are also paid more- and even now in the western suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne ( i.e. less affluent areas)...it is not as if there is a shortage of doctors (good or bad) in the metropolitans or affluent areas. I imagine SA would be the same.
So if the strategy was to get more doctors in black areas or coloured areas- of course these demarcations still exist- then by all means get people who will end up working there. Healthcare is not for hypochondriac people going to the doctor for a chat, it is about uplifting health in the poorer areas.

The strategy under apartheid was totally different to this , so the 'racism' is not the reverse of what happenned under apartheid. In that case, despite the abundance of white doctors in white areas- and the sparseness of doctors of any colour in non white areas- the authorities and universities continued to churn out hundreds of white doctors at the expense of non white.
As an example, I missed out in Medicine at UCT despite being amongst the top matrics of all colour at the time - UCT only admitted 10 non whites, same at Wits - I then enrolled for science (got permit for UCT by claiming I would study genetics as subject, not offerred at UWC), did same courses as medicine (some in same classes), outdid most of them (and had better matric than most too) and applied every year - I don't recall any non whites getting in this way of the one or two that did...a mate got in many years later (mid 80's0 when he already had a Masters in Microbio and things were relaxing. I did my science , then engineering and later MBA where I got the class medal (was one of four non whites at a former white institution).

The point I am making is that there were people with necessary quals to fill a huge gap in medical provision in poorer or non white areas, yet the universities kept churning out hundreds of whites each year. Many of them ended up in aus, canada, UK etc, so we were educating people for other countries, but not our own backyard. My brother who got in ten years before I left school (amongst 8 non whites), got distinction in his degree and is still practising in one of the poorer areas of cape flats (close to retirement)

So, if the necessity is now to fix that which was created under apartheid- i.e. an imbalance in medical doctors etc- then of course the weighting should be towards where they are potentially going to practise.
 
Should I ask my white female friend starting articles in January at a "top 5" firm's Cape Town office how she managed to get the job despite having no racial advantage over your friend?

Sorry to resort to such crass sarcasm but I still don't see how your friend can conclude that race is the determining factor in her inability to find a job.

"Racial advantage." Wow, we really have come to this, using a word like that seriously in a conversation, man f*%( this place.
 
"Racial advantage." Wow, we really have come to this, using a word like that seriously in a conversation, man f*%( this place.

"Racial advantage" has been in SA's history for a very long time, since before 1994 and after. It's just labeled something else less offensive.
 
White people are still advantaged due to the residual effects of 400 years of formal white supremacy and ongoing racism known as institutional racism not to mention the violations of BEE and AA laws. A recent study in the USA found that job applicants with white sounding names were more likely to be called back for job interviews than applicants with black sounding names. It's probably the same here in SA.
 
White people are still advantaged due to the residual effects of 400 years of formal white supremacy and ongoing racism known as institutional racism not to mention the violations of BEE and AA laws. A recent study in the USA found that job applicants with white sounding names were more likely to be called back for job interviews than applicants with black sounding names. It's probably the same here in SA.

Didnt we cover this the last time you posted :confused: , seems like your singing the exact same song...
 
White people are still advantaged due to the residual effects of 400 years of formal white supremacy and ongoing racism known as institutional racism not to mention the violations of BEE and AA laws. A recent study in the USA found that job applicants with white sounding names were more likely to be called back for job interviews than applicants with black sounding names. It's probably the same here in SA.


1976 wants its broken record back.
 
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