Top TV loses two channels

1st of all ICASA needs to make "exclusive" agreements between channel providers and operators null and void
 
mmmig said:
1st of all ICASA needs to make "exclusive" agreements between channel providers and operators null and void
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Agreed. The same channels are available on all of the US pay TV services. For instance, HBO is on Dish, Comcast, DirecTV, and the other one. No exclusivity agreements. No need for them. Operators must be able to offer the same channels and content, and the winner will be the one who offers the services at the best price.
 
mmmig said:
1st of all ICASA needs to make "exclusive" agreements between channel providers and operators null and void
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Agreed. The same channels are available on all of the US pay TV services. For instance, HBO is on Dish, Comcast, DirecTV, and the other one. No exclusivity agreements. No need for them. Operators must be able to offer the same channels and content, and the winner will be the one who offers the services at the best price.
 
So what was the deal with FlopTV in South Africa?

Where they gonna become the new SABC and get protection from government?

I thought it was a BEE deal?
 
kingrob said:
So what was the deal with FlopTV in South Africa?

Where they gonna become the new SABC and get protection from government?

I thought it was a BEE deal?
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Nope could not get a BEE partner.

Also if they are take over by StarTimes will the name toptv still exists
 
bilal786 said:
Nope could not get a BEE partner.
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You kidding me! :wtf:

I thought you could get a BEE partner on every street corner & the only main criteria being that they are not white. :sick:

They couldn't get a BEE partner? Just crazy.
 
kingrob said:
You kidding me! :wtf:

I thought you could get a BEE partner on every street corner & the only main criteria being that they are not white. :sick:

They couldn't get a BEE partner? Just crazy.
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:) They got BEE partner already

They are not willing to refinance they.
 
Sad to see these guys struggling, I tried to support them with my wallet as long as I could, but the poor quality of content, and lack of South African relevant sport meant I eventually (reluctantlu) moved over to DSTV. ICASA and the DOC urgently need to address Multichoices monopoly on sport and exclusivity agreements with content providers. The current landscape means that any competition is effectively killed off before they've even got started! Even our national broadcaster has been seriously damaged by the actions of Multichoice!

South Africa deserves better!
 
The writing is on the wall for them im afraid. They wont last another 6 months. Its a pity, because we need competition for multichoice.
 
BGE said:
Sad to see these guys struggling, I tried to support them with my wallet as long as I could, but the poor quality of content, and lack of South African relevant sport meant I eventually (reluctantlu) moved over to DSTV. ICASA and the DOC urgently need to address Multichoices monopoly on sport and exclusivity agreements with content providers. The current landscape means that any competition is effectively killed off before they've even got started! Even our national broadcaster has been seriously damaged by the actions of Multichoice!

South Africa deserves better!
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When they started they try to gain entry into a different market not sport, but they made a lots of mistake. But also ICASA is at fault
 
Oh and one more thing... Gov gave Multichoice many years of protection to entrench themselves in SA broadcast market, and sign and seal their exclusivity deals. Multichoice must be barred from offering cheaper competitive bouquets (family, select, whatever) for 5 years! They must also be forced by gov policy to share SA related sport content including cricket & rugby(provincial + national), even if the broadcast is delayed!
 
BGE said:
Sad to see these guys struggling, I tried to support them with my wallet as long as I could, but the poor quality of content, and lack of South African relevant sport meant I eventually (reluctantlu) moved over to DSTV. ICASA and the DOC urgently need to address Multichoices monopoly on sport and exclusivity agreements with content providers. The current landscape means that any competition is effectively killed off before they've even got started! Even our national broadcaster has been seriously damaged by the actions of Multichoice!

South Africa deserves better!
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Um....DSTV is actually world class.

If you can find any other satellite broadcaster who can show you so many sport channels & movie channels, I'm all ears.

Also, Multichoice did not get any government money or shady BEE partners - they did it the hard way and made a huge success of it.

You are more than welcome to start another similar TopTV venture. ;)
 
BGE said:
Oh and one more thing... Gov gave Multichoice many years of protection to entrench themselves in SA broadcast market, and sign and seal their exclusivity deals. Multichoice must be barred from offering cheaper competitive bouquets (family, select, whatever) for 5 years! They must also be forced by gov policy to share SA related sport content including cricket & rugby(provincial + national), even if the broadcast is delayed!
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Any proof that Multichoice got government protection?

So the government did it at the expense of the SABC? Interesting.
 
bilal786 said:
When they started they try to gain entry into a different market not sport, but they made a lots of mistake. But also ICASA is at fault
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Yes, they did make mistakes. But for all intensive purposes, they were doomed from the word go, Gov offered zilch protection(like Multichoice had), and Multichoice were allowed to roll out opposing products that effectively killed them!

IMHO, 95% of the blame must fall on extremely poor gov regulation and policy in the broadcast industry! No one can oppose Multichoice as it stands now, not even one of the big international broadcasters!
 
mmmig said:
1st of all ICASA needs to make "exclusive" agreements between channel providers and operators null and void
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Ironically it only seems to affect everyone but multichoice. How many channels have they introduced after top tv introduced them. Fox being the latest
 
kingrob said:
Um....DSTV is actually world class.

If you can find any other satellite broadcaster who can show you so many sport channels & movie channels, I'm all ears.

Also, Multichoice did not get any government money or shady BEE partners - they did it the hard way and made a huge success of it.

You are more than welcome to start another similar TopTV venture. ;)
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No one is complaining about their content offering, but their pricing structure is terrible and they abuse their monopoly.
 
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