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Is it just me or have the 1 gig accounts become a lot less shaped!? eg..Almost all my torrents are going above 30kB/s:D
 
Maybe Iburst have figured that shaping accounts benefits nobody. And that offering their accounts unshaped would make Iburst more attractive.

On the other hand, after the network going down in the early hours of this morning, maybe the usual shaping and packet sniffing hasn't been switched back on yet...
 
Gatecrasher said:
Maybe Iburst have figured that shaping accounts benefits nobody. And that offering their accounts unshaped would make Iburst more attractive.

On the other hand, after the network going down in the early hours of this morning, maybe the usual shaping and packet sniffing hasn't been switched back on yet...
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So the network did go down this morning.. i phoned about it and got told nothing was wrong, but it was for a very short time.

Halfway thorugh trying to fix it the internet just came back on.

And how does shaping benifit nobody? The truth is that for most people who just want to broswe, recieve email and do some downloading off the internet and watch sreams etc. shaping helps get the a better service. Others who want p2p also obviously want a higher cap and must pay for the 9gig unshaped service. Its actually a perfectly fine business model for their accounts, but yah.. id also like my 3G to be unshaped.
 
Hi, I certainly cannot remember anyone telling me that my 3gig contract with Iburst would be shaped. Does anyone know the legal position on this? Had I know it was being shaped I would not have bothered with the service. Would I have a case if I wished to cansel my 3gig contract?
 
tribsm said:
Hi, I certainly cannot remember anyone telling me that my 3gig contract with Iburst would be shaped. Does anyone know the legal position on this? Had I know it was being shaped I would not have bothered with the service. Would I have a case if I wished to cansel my 3gig contract?
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Interesting to note that this is not clear from the new website. Used to be quite prominent on the old site when looking at the packages.
 
You probaly looked at the old site and signed a contract that looked similar, or had the same terms/conditions.

But Im not shure if it even states anything about shaping in the contract, but It was on the site andf their is a 9gig package that specially isnt shaped so Im shure they have themselves covered.

btw, why does it matter to you? You werent going to cancel and im assuming were at least happy enough with the service to keep it. Now that you knwo it is shaped you suddenly want to cancel it?
How does that make sense, it doesnt change anything from when you were happy with the service, unless you havent got to do anything over p2p or some port you really need for some reason.
 
Ekhaatvensters said:
And how does shaping benifit nobody? The truth is that for most people who just want to broswe, recieve email and do some downloading off the internet and watch sreams etc. shaping helps get the a better service.
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If I can download http at 120KB/s, why can't I download P2P at 120KB/s? I'm simply using what I paid for. Why charge more for unshaped? Surely costs are incurred by operating and maintaining the monitoring and governing software. Shaped traffic should cost more!

You might argue that I could line up 100's of downloads more easily using p2p than I could on http, but even on a 9gb package, I could only use Iburst flat out for one day a month. The rest of the time I'd be throttled to 64kbps.

If bandwidth was unlimited, a case would exist, but when paying per Gig, I just don't see any logic in shaping.
 
If bandwidth was unlimited, a case would exist, but when paying per Gig, I just don't see any logic in shaping.
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My thoughts exactly. And what if it was unshaped, wouldn't people buy more extra gigs because of the better service? If you reach your cap, there is no "motivation" to buy an extra gig as it doesn't help that much.

Its actually a perfectly fine business model for their accounts, but yah.. id also like my 3G to be unshaped.
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Me too.

Tjorriemorrie
 
Controlling a small network here of about 20 computers, I can understand the need for a certain amount of shaping otherwise other clients who want the service purely for Web Browsing get bogged down. I can well accept that a couple of hundred/thousand users with 50% doing p2p or torrent will kill their bandwidth. But then there must be a compromise, don't kill the potential to make some cash from purchased bandwidth, rather they should shape the p2p and other such services to about 300 to 500 Kbs. That way the network would still be snappy enough for web browsing, ftp, Skype & other services but at the same time generating extra revenue for wbs.
 
patrick123 said:
Controlling a small network here of about 20 computers, I can understand the need for a certain amount of shaping otherwise other clients who want the service purely for Web Browsing get bogged down. I can well accept that a couple of hundred/thousand users with 50% doing p2p or torrent will kill their bandwidth. But then there must be a compromise, don't kill the potential to make some cash from purchased bandwidth, rather they should shape the p2p and other such services to about 300 to 500 Kbs. That way the network would still be snappy enough for web browsing, ftp, Skype & other services but at the same time generating extra revenue for wbs.
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There is some merit in that argument, but, because of capping, there is still a very limited amount of time that a single user could run p2p flat out. Over the course of a month it all averages out. Next they will want to limit http downloads to 300kbps for the very same reasons.

I can understand capping.

I can understand shaping.

But I cannot understand capping and shaping.

If you have one, you don't require the other.
 
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But I cannot understand capping and shaping.

If you have one, you don't require the other.
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I bow down to your argument, I was not taking the capping aspect into account, thus if people are prepared to pay for the extra bandwidth, that would definitely cover the extra costs (plus some.. okay a lot more profit) incurred by wbs for their extra bandwidth.
 
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well, this thread was started 3 months ago, so i do not think the "flying torrents" are still valid.

On my 1gig account my avarage torrent download speed is 0.01KB/s so I think it is safe to say torrents are shaped. :( Strangely, my upload speed is about 5KB/s...
 
I dont think a torrent speed of 0.01 kb is even working at all. It probably isnt set up right or you have no sources etc..

I even downloaded a torrent just straight up with Opera 9 built in bittorrent without changing settings and I could et about a kb or two going through.

But I hate torretns anyway.. damn uplaod speed.
 
Me, I use good ol' openVPN to get better speeds. In the day it stays 6KB - 10KB throughout, and 30KB+ at night/early morning. Also patching XP sp2's half-open tcp connection issue helps.
 
my torrent speed NEVER goes above 6kb/s. In fact, it's fixed at that speed. No idea why :confused:
 
Mine are still between 0-100Kb dependin on the source/seeders/peers I guess ;) but its only like that when im not capped which sucks since I'm not allowed to download big files until I'm capped & then when I'm capped,it struggles to get above 5KB/s :(
 
anything between 2kbit/sec ~ 120kbit/sec, depending on torrent and seed/leecher ratio and other factors not specific to iBurst because same results on Diginet line
 
S1ght and JTech are the speeds above 5kB/s consistent? Are you on a package other than the 9GB one?
 
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