Traffic Fine Question

[Cape]

Hi Guys, I received a traffic fine in the mail recently (beginning October) for a traffic violation that I allegedly committed. Something about not stopping fully at a stop street until it was safe to proceed driving. What boggles my mind is the fact that I received the fine in the mail. Nobody pulled me over and handed me the fine at the time the violation took place. Surely the traffic officer should've pulled me over, since it was a moving violation and there's no camera proof? The fine amount is R1500, which is quite hefty. It just gives me the impression that a traffic officer can just hand out fines if they have your number plate and place you at a "scene", then post you the fine. How do they actually prove that I didn't stop, what can I do to contest this?

 

[koeksGHT]

We have stop street traffic cameras, is there a pic?

 

[MickZA]

We have stop street traffic cameras, is there a pic?

Surely it would need to be dash cam video or similar, you can't tell from a photo if he stopped or not.

 

[koeksGHT]

Surely it would need to be dash cam video or similar, you can't tell from a photo if he stopped or not.

It's a fixed traffic camera, I didn't stop at one street around Randburg and noticed halfway through intersection there was a fixed camera looking at a 4 way stop street. Haven't received anything so not sure if decoy.

 

[MickZA]

It's a fixed traffic camera, I didn't stop at one street around Randburg and noticed halfway through intersection there was a fixed camera looking at a 4 way stop street. Haven't received anything so not sure if decoy.

Thinking about it some more two time lapse photos would suffice, if you're in the intersection in the second photo you can't have come to a complete halt.

 

[Cape]

There's no pic, and no stop street traffic cameras.

 

[koeksGHT]

There's no pic, and no stop street traffic cameras.

Just contest it then, go speak to prosecutor and they should sort it out.

 

[koeksGHT]

Thinking about it some more two time lapse photos would suffice, if you're in the intersection in the second photo you can't have come to a complete halt.

That or maybe the magnetic sensors under road like robots.

 

[Geoff.D]

A tricky one this.

But I suppose if you follow the correct procedure at a stop, the camera will be able to determine if you came to a complete stop or not.

(1) Stop before the line.
(2) Pull forward slowly until just before line.
(3) Look left look right look left again.
(4) Proceed if safe.

now who does the above? learners and when you pass your test ... never again after that. :twisted:

 

[Zoomzoom]

A tricky one this.

But I suppose if you follow the correct procedure at a stop. the camera will be able to determine if you came to a complete stop or not.

(1) Stop before the line.
(2) Pull forward slowly until just before line.
(3) Look left look right look left again.
(4) Proceed if safe.

now who does the above? learners and when you pass your test ... never again after that. :twisted:

And people who don't want R1500 fines they can't afford.

Not to mention not wanting to be flattened by the truck you pulled out in front of because of not looking.

 

[deweyzeph]

Go to court and ask them to produce the evidence of the offence. If there's no evidence there's no case.

 

[Magnum]

Or even better Wait for actual summons to appear before a court. Those take time and money and often gets thrown out because of manpower needed.

 

[Cape]

Thanks guys

 

[HavocXphere]

Or even better Wait for actual summons to appear before a court.

Terrible idea. If you're going to dispute a fine on the basis that its bullsht waiting 3 months until you're in front of a judge isn't going to help your argument.

Go to court and ask them to produce the evidence of the offence. If there's no evidence there's no case.

You'd go to the prosecutor not to actual court, but yes.

 

[thehuman]

Here in pe they use a video camera and send fine in post