Traffic fines ditched

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http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2013/08/29/traffic-fines-ditched

More than 2.4-million traffic fines issued by the Johannesburg metro police before the end of June don't have to be paid because of a major postal bungle by the cops.

The metro police have admitted that the fines are considered "stale" and will eventually be deemed "null and void".

The JMPD has spent more than R60-million issuing the fines. But it did so by "secure mail" and not by registered mail. And the fines were issued "outside the prescription period" stipulated in the Administrative Adjudication of Road Offences (Aarto) Act.

This is revealed in a status report on the Aarto system by the Department of Transport.

"The cases that cannot be complied with in terms of an enforcement order will eventually need to [be] cancelled/withdrawn from the e-Natis [Electronic National Traffic Information] system," the report states.

The JMPD issues about 400000 traffic fines a month.

The release of the report is at a time when the government has expressed pessimism about the national implementation of the Aarto system.

Pointing to the never-ending problems plaguing the pilot programme in Tshwane and Johannesburg, transport officials believe the system will collapse when it is implemented countrywide.

"If the current obstacles experienced with Tshwane, Johannesburg, the Road Traffic Infringement Agency and the Road Traffic Management Corporation are an indication of how the roll-out will take place, the national roll-out is doomed to fail before it has started," says the Department of Transport report.

The Road Traffic Management Corporation has denied this. Its spokesman, Fakazi Malindisa, said that the statement was "an exaggeration of the challenges being experienced in rolling out Aarto".

Problems identified so far include that:

It took three years to arrange the financing of posting first-infringement notices by registered mail;
Fewer than 5% of infringement notices sent by registered mail are complied with; and
All infringement notices are invalid because the Road Traffic Infringement Agency failed to comply with the requirement that it send courtesy letters and enforcement orders.

Central to the malfunctioning of Aarto is the Road Traffic Infringement Agency, which is intended to collect fines on behalf of issuing authorities.

The report reveals that the agency has not got the money it needs to do its job.

The agency is crippled by the high cost of serving infringement notices, courtesy letters and enforcement orders.

Because it was unable to send out courtesy letters and enforcement orders, "all infringement notices are legally null and void".

The Department of Transport notes that this "makes all law enforcement fruitless and wasteful expenditure", including the R60-million spent by the Johannesburg metro on sending out infringement notices by the end of June.

As a result, the department has resolved to fund the agency to the tune of R40-million a month.

The department or the Treasury, it was suggested in the report, would lend the agency R171.5-million over the next 10 months to enable it to serve courtesy letters and enforcement orders as prescribed by law.

It is hoped that the agency would then be in a position "to sustain itself".

The refusal of so many motorists to pay fines has severely hampered the implementation of Aarto.

In 2011-2012, more than 1.7million notices, representing fines totalling R980-million, were issued.

But tickets that should have brought in R893-million were unpaid.

Motorists might eventually be made to pay for the R2.6-billion the authorities are battling to collect as Aarto tries to stay afloat.

The Transport Department's report suggests doubling the average traffic fine from R500 to R1000 and increasing the charge for courtesy letters and enforcement notices from R60 to R100.
 
Was waiting for this.... lol @ all those who have been paying over the last two years! ;)

Now do you honestly think that this stupid etolling system is still going to work? :D
 
I have an R800 fine from December when we drove through Wilderness, en route home from PE. Drove 84 in a 60 zone.

There's so many things wrong with the fine that its laughable (as per the act)

1. There's another car in the north-eastern corner of the pic
2. No cross-hair to indicate the camera was aimed at the general vicinity of my headlights / numberplate
3. No photo of my numberplate at all - I know it was me, but THEY need to prove that :D
4. And the kicker...I got it via normal mail
 
And everyone got upset with me when I said fines and arrest warrants are a joke in this country.

Proof once again that the system is a big joke.
 
according to Howard Dembovsky on 702 right now, any motorist that has received a fine still has to apply in writing for the fine to be written off, there will be no blanket scrapping of fines
 
according to Howard Dembovsky on 702 right now, any motorist that has received a fine still has to apply in writing for the fine to be written off, there will be no blanket scrapping of fines

The city of Joburg has been writing them off in batches for a decade now.
I've never bothered with following the AARTO procedure to have them scrapped, because when the JMPD effectively writes them off their books, they are effectively scrapped.
 
They didnt follow the rules, why should we follow up with them, ggf
 
sooo are the raffic people in cape town idiots as well?
I have an R800 fine from December when we drove through Wilderness, en route home from PE. Drove 84 in a 60 zone.

There's so many things wrong with the fine that its laughable (as per the act)

1. There's another car in the north-eastern corner of the pic
2. No cross-hair to indicate the camera was aimed at the general vicinity of my headlights / numberplate
3. No photo of my numberplate at all - I know it was me, but THEY need to prove that :D
4. And the kicker...I got it via normal mail

:)
 
The Transport Department's report suggests doubling the average traffic fine from R500 to R1000 and increasing the charge for courtesy letters and enforcement notices from R60 to R100.

Because doubling the fines will suddenly get people to pay them :rolleyes:.

Bloody morons.
 
I have an R800 fine from December when we drove through Wilderness, en route home from PE. Drove 84 in a 60 zone.

There's so many things wrong with the fine that its laughable (as per the act)

1. There's another car in the north-eastern corner of the pic
2. No cross-hair to indicate the camera was aimed at the general vicinity of my headlights / numberplate
3. No photo of my numberplate at all - I know it was me, but THEY need to prove that :D
4. And the kicker...I got it via normal mail

Was the fine for Johannesburg or Pretoria, if not then it can still be sent via post and does not fall under AARTO
 
Because doubling the fines will suddenly get people to pay them :rolleyes:.

Bloody morons.

But of course...

because we're all so happy to pay the fines as they are now, as spurious as they are.

*looks at my R1500 fine for doing a U-Turn at a completely empty intersection at 6am*...
 
And everyone got upset with me when I said fines and arrest warrants are a joke in this country.

Proof once again that the system is a big joke.

I had a warrant for my arrest for about a year.

I was able to renew car registration.

I was able to leave the country (was a bit worried about that- a late notice business trip :erm:)

I had an "admin mark" against my name though, which prevented me from registering a car in my name- I had to pay the original fine amount + R150 penalty for missing court date before I could continue.

Other than that, just hope for no roadblocks :)
 
Was that "admin mark" related to the warrant?
I have not had any issue with doing anything in this country on the back of an arrest warrant.
I have received an arrest warrant in the last 5 months but have also purchased a car.
When I deregistered my old car there were no records of fines or warrants.
 
Was that "admin mark" related to the warrant?
I have not had any issue with doing anything in this country on the back of an arrest warrant.
I have received an arrest warrant in the last 5 months but have also purchased a car.
When I deregistered my old car there were no records of fines or warrants.

Apparently- I paid it (fine+penalty) from my phone while still at the traffic dept, after which the "admin mark" was removed and I was able to register the car.

That may just have been a sneaky Western Cape way to ensure fines are paid.

They had the details of the offence and the court date which I could remember, so it was legit...
 
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