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I emailed Iburst last night about this issue. I tried to call them this afternoon I just tried to email them again the message to [email protected] got bounced reason? mailbox full. They should at least pretend to read there email. Here is a copy of the email I sent them. Hopefully an iburst network admin or someone who works there will read this.


Hello

Your Proxy is BADLY broken.


E.G subversion (a source version management system). I NEED this system for work. It is absolutely CRITICAL that you get this fixed out A.S.A.P

Please have a look at the instructions on this page http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#proxy

Is is really simple to fix this problem and simply involves adding ONE line to your squid config. (normally located somwhere like /etc/squid/squid.conf

if you are running a version of squid after version 2.4 use this line

extension_methods REPORT MERGE MKACTIVITY CHECKOUT

if you are running a version of squid before version 2.4 use this line

extension_methods REPORT MERGE MKACTIVITY CHECKOUT PROPFIND



Please treat this as a matter of utmost urgency and forward it on to a network administrator. Please would you keep me informed of the progress that is being made to solve this problem.
 
Thanks mate.

Thanks For getting the info where it needed to go. Thets just hope that someone does something about it :)

WBS should set up an email address like [email protected] so that when we have problems that we know how to fix we can email that address and a network admin will read it instead of some clueless first line technical support.
 
Good ISPs don't have such pathetic problems on first place!

I think it is long time overdue WBS to change their package descriptions from "Internet access" to "HTTP access", as this is the only thing that more or less works reliably on that crap ....
 
meh, ok you two didn't have a rosy time on iBurst, I'm with you but can't we make posts relavent to the topics, have helpfull or sinsightfull information rather than "iBurst is teh suck" no matter what the topic is about, this is more directed at you swordfish, don't get me wrong, its not an attack, just a request, I just clicked a couple thread links now and saw basically the same post from you in each one, WBS may be your sworn enemy but we're not and you're not helping anybody out with this attitude
 
slim, I am helping a lot by letting people know that there are better options and they work :-)

I see basically all my problems all over again on this forum ... doesn't matter how much you claim that only P2P is restricted and that there are workarounds it, and all problems I had only ever happened to me, the reality is that for most people it doesn't work! And it isn't just P2P, it is much more! Many protocols that hardly ever can generate a lot of traffic are restricted, probably due to incompetence, or maybe intentionally! I don't care!

I am against WBS and will always be! If they change their web site so they explain what is not going to work (or what will work as it is going to be shorter) with their connection offerings, and be honest about it, I will stop bitching! That's it! Internet access my as*! I think there should be laws against ISPs telling you for what to use your internet connection! That is unacceptable! This is like the Eskom telling you for what you can use your electricity! Like you can't cook at all because on ocasions you may use too much energy! Bullsh*t!

If you pay for internet access then they should give you internet access, if they selling you HTTP access then they can cut off all other protocols! At the moment they are liars and you defending them!
 
swordfish1 said:
Good ISPs don't have such pathetic problems on first place!
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I don't think that this is a pathetic problem. What he is asking for is a specific change in the proxy for a specific program. This type of issue has such a small base of users that could be effected by it that setting it up in advance is not viable nor really possible.

A pathetic problem is things like open proxies or the P2P issues you describe having.

How it is handled though defines if it becomes a problem or not, because currently it is merely an incombatibility.
 
swordfish how do you arrive at the conclusion of "the reality is that for most people it doesn't work!", there are anywhere between 6000 and 10000 subscribers, of which about 100 use this forum, so which method of statistical gathering did you use to come up with that?? The fact is niether you or I know what the majority is, whether it be happy users or not. Everyone isn't an idiot here, you don't have to have a phD to know that there are other options available, going into every thread saying "LOL ROFFEL LOLLERSKATES GET ADSL HEHE WTF STFUKTHX" is not helping anybody, do you think that people with ADSL available in thier area don't know about it?

Your responses work on the assumption that everyone is as unhappy with iBurst as you were, not true, and that iBurst is only good for HTTP, again not true and finally that people can or want to change to ADSL as you did (did you ever think that some people don't want ADSL, that some people might like 1mbit speeds, that adsl is too expensive for some users or that some people can't get adsl)

I'm not saying never mention adsl, just do so when its relavent, I think this attitude of going in EVERY thread and replying with "get adsl because iBurst is totally unusable except for HTTP" is just not what this forum is about.

Anyways its not liek anyone will take your comments on iBurst seriously now, its like asking a bitter ex-wife about her ex-husband, I already know the answer before she opens her mouth and won't exactly count it as a balanced viewpoint.

If I went to the ADSL section and started saying "haha idiots i have 1mbit and you don't nye nye nye nye nye' I would expect the exact same response I am giving you.

So in a word, stoppit, if you're this angry at iBurst why don't you write them a letter or something, because I don't care and I'm sure other iBurst users don't either.

ADSL is far from perfect, name a good broadband service in this country that will deliver up to all peoples expectations at all times and deliver great service for your coin.. exactly, there is none, iBurst is just an alternative for our cities, we NEED alternatives, so I really don't know why you want us all to go back to Telkom just because your experience wasn't good for whatever reason.

And for the record, iBurst is not only for HTTP, I have yet to find a service I can't access and yet you will call me a liar and say i'm making it all up for some reason only known to you.
 
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DFantom, if you connect with a dial-up modem, and you try to use subversion, or anything else, it just works! That is internet! The ISP sells you the internet connectivity and you can use it as you wish, what so difficult to understand about this! They can limit your bandwidth, or monthly traffic, as this are parameters of the physical connection, but they must not limit what you use your internet connection for (provided it is legal of course). So I doubt that subversion is used for illegal purposes ever, so why one have to spent his/hers valuable time trying to figure out how to contact the bunch of idiots at WBS so if they are in a mood they may fix this eventially!

My point is that with ANY other ISP you don't have to phone them to ask them to enable certain protocol for you, and then say "thank you very much"!
 
hahah which ISP will 'enable' a protocol when anyone phones in because if they made an active choice to disable a protocol it was for a reason and thus won't turn around on that just because you phone in?

anyways WBS has not up till now and probably won't in the future 'blocked' any protocol, they merely prioritise ports, just like ADSL does, HTTP gets priority over say mySQL and so on, thats all, no one has blocked anything
 
slimothy, I think the percentage of users having not-properly-working connection is much higher than what you saying. I agree that it is probably location specific, so there are people that don't have this problems, but many do, and WBS did nothing for 2 months to fix that!

Also there are many people that at this stage of their lives use internet for HTTP and email only so they don't realise about the problems, so they look happy .... but tomorrow some friend will open their eyes that internet can be used for more than web browsing so they will try using it for something else, and only then they will realise that they have a problem .... so only then they will complain!

Also, I don't like your attitude toward resolving problems. I am not interested in workarounds for the problems. If you can work around their protection for P2P by using proxy etc I don't care. I have paid for internet connection and I expect to have such, what I am going to use it for is my problem, and some fat a*s idiot at WBS which happen to be a CEO, that doesn't know what Mbit is, is not the one that will tell me otherwise.

Also about the 1 Mbit, I would agree with you if you had no GB per month restriction! Provided you have 3 or X GB per month where X <= 9 or it costs you R100+ per GB, I think you will be able to use that speed for less than a day in the whole month which has on average 30 days ... so from my perspective you are one of those people that has all top spec stuff not because he can or know how to use them, but because he can tell his friends that he has better stuff than they have ... well in my case I actualy need the internet to use it, not because I want to tell my friends "hey look at me I have 1 Mbit internet, how fast is yours?". So 192 kbps and working is far better for me than 100 Mbit and not working!

Also I agree that there is no proper broadband connectivity in SA, but on 1 to 10 raiting I would give iBurst abuot 2 (just because it is mobile and relatively easy to install), and ADSL about 7, with most major problems being the cost (which now is significantly lower than iBurst especially for large packages) and prior installation issues.
 
slimothy if it is just port prioritisation, and there should be only speed implications, how do you explain the fact that I can leave a P2P application like eMule for one week and it won't download a single byte ... will give me a status Cannot Connect for almost all peers at almost all times? How do you explain ICQ disconnecting after it send a single message instantly. Note that all this stuff worked fine for years and still work when I am using dial-up! So don't come with the sh*t that it is my PC!

Telkom also does port prioritisation on P2P but all I can notice is slow speed during the day, which is very different than 0 speed at all times (while HTTP is cruising at full speed at the same time)!

Also ISP don't block protocols, so obviously there is no option to "unblock" them. This is only WBS specific feature to block protocols.

Also can you explain to me what is the reson behing blocking the subversion protocol? Is it used for illegal traffic? Does it use too much bandwidth? I don't think so! I guess the answer is that you need to pay extra to use it! Does it say in the relevant package description that subversion won't work???? Not of course, it is nice surprise after you spend R2800 for the iBurst modem ...

So slimothhy I am prety sure you have some serious relationship with WBS to defend them so much, so that's cool with me, but I will say what I want to say, you can just skip over my posts!

After WBS changes their web site to reflect the true nature of their products, so the people can get all the truth by reading their web site, then I will stop bithing!
 
swordfish1 said:
slimothy, I think the percentage of users having not-properly-working connection is much higher than what you saying.
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actually I never said what the percentage was, actually I said, neither you or I know the percentage, fact is they have 10000 people paying in every month, surely you're not suggesting each one of these people is stupid enough to pay for something they don't get... month after month
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Also there are many people that at this stage of their lives use internet for HTTP and email only so they don't realise about the problems, so they look happy .... but tomorrow some friend will open their eyes that internet can be used for more than web browsing so they will try using it for something else, and only then they will realise that they have a problem .... so only then they will complain!
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I am not one of those people, and I am happy
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Also, I don't like your attitude toward resolving problems. I am not interested in workarounds for the problems. If you can work around their protection for P2P by using proxy etc I don't care. I have paid for internet connection and I expect to have such, what I am going to use it for is my problem, and some fat a*s idiot at WBS which happen to be a CEO, that doesn't know what Mbit is, is not the one that will tell me otherwise.
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OK, I am sorry I attempted to help people, anyways the 3Gb package shapes p2p, and sure a few users sign up without knowing that, but you get what you pay for, if you want p2p you get the 9GB package, its that simple
swordfish1 said:
Also about the 1 Mbit, I would agree with you if you had no GB per month restriction!
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well there wasnt when I signed up, and it was great but no R600 1mbit service in any country that isn't geographically located near the netherlands, US or japan can offer that, even in australia you will get a 3mbit cable connected with a 10GB limit
 
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