Tshwane Mayor to visit Kleinfontein

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Tshwane's mayor Kgosientso Ramokgopa will visit the Afrikaners-only community of Kleinfontein outside Rayton, east of Pretoria, on Wednesday.

"The visit is not a law enforcement exercise, but is aimed at fact-finding, reaching out to the community and understanding their concerns," Ramokgopa's office said in a statement on Tuesday.

Members of her mayoral committee would accompany her.

Spokesman Blessing Manale said Ramokgopa would use the visit to reiterate that racial practices had no place in a democratic era.

"The executive mayor has called on the leadership of civil rights organisations and other government agencies to join in this exercise, so as to welcome the minority community of Kleinfontein back into Tshwane and assure them that they have no reason to fear."

During the visit discussions on amicable remedies for the area's apparent non-compliance with certain planning and housing regulations and other by-laws would be held.

Last week the Democratic Alliance Youth protested outside Kleinfontein's gates. The property covers almost 800 hectares. DA Youth leader Mbali Ntuli and a few others entered the area to speak with Kleinfontein leaders.

"We want to show you what South Africa looks like. We achieve nothing by creating secluded areas," she said at the time.

Kleinfontein controlling body chairman Jan Groenewald insisted in a debate with the DA on Thursday that the criteria for its residents were not based on race.

Inhabitants of the settlement, which had existed for 21 years but came under the media's spotlight this week, merely wanted to live out their values in seclusion, said Groenewald. This would include providing themselves with their own "municipal" services.

"The people that have free access to Kleinfontein, who can apply, are Afrikaner. [They] are basically people who associate themselves with our Voortrekker history, the Blood River Covenant and all these historical facts relating to our struggle for independence for the Afrikaner people," Groenewald told reporters.

The criteria to live in Kleinfontein was "based on cultural, language, traditional and religious beliefs".

"You cannot use race as a base to determine anything," said Groenewald.


Source : Sapa /mv/th/dd/jje
Date : 28 May 2013 14:51
 
Instead of worrying about Kleinfontein, why doesn't the Tshwane mayor get his own house in order. Maybe then people wouldn't need to provide their own services.
 
Kleinfontein is a private farm, they can do as they please. Come to my house as well then and hear all my concerns.

It's not that simple.
The moment you start running a business on your property or advertise to the public, you open yourself up to all kinds of legal hassle.
The moment he has other people staying there under contractual obligations and paying rent or buying leases or whatever, then those contracts fall under the ambit of the law.
 
Members of her mayoral committee would accompany her.

Eish, SAPA...

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Are there enough people/businesses in these communities to sustain growth?
 
Why all this commotion all of a sudden over this place? I have heared regular advertisements on Radio Pretoria for Kleinfontein quite some time ago. Whats the difference between this and Orania? I wouldn't want to live in both of them but just let them.
 
There's a Zulu on their stoep, a black man has bought a property there and plans on staying.

http://www.sundayworld.co.za/news/2013/05/26/black-invader-buys-into-whites-only-kleinfontein

Hahaha! :D

"I want to teach them a lesson. We can't sit back and say the government must do something about this place. It's for us to do something," he says.

He seems like a guy I could get on with. :p I'm sure he will be headstrong and savvy enough, to make the community accept him, then hopefully others.
 
Hahaha! :D



He seems like a guy I could get on with. :p I'm sure he will be headstrong and savvy enough, to make the community accept him, then hopefully others.

Which is exactly their point. If you don't get on with them why would you live there? To push a point? Life must be so miserable if this is how you want to live.

Why not just leave them alone?
 
Which is exactly their point. If you don't get on with them why would you live there? To push a point? Life must be so miserable if this is how you want to live.

Why not just leave them alone?

If they really don't want to give an African, a chance to show that people of different races, do not need to fear each other, then their committee will vote against it, I'm sure.

This statement, shows me that they are not that against the idea, although they would obviously want to vet any buyers.

"What we are trying to tell you is that we are here because the Constitution allows us. We have no signs that says whites-only here.

I see the African guy as a down to earth savvy businessman. He has here, an opportunity to show people, that Africans aren't as bad as they think. A couple of braais with a few beers and the whole place, will look at Africans in a whole new light. He'll fit right in. Watch him employ a couple of the community.
 
If they really don't want to give an African, a chance to show that people of different races, do not need to fear each other, then their committee will vote against it, I'm sure.

This statement, shows me that they are not that against the idea, although they would obviously want to vet any buyers.



I see the African guy as a down to earth savvy businessman. He has here, an opportunity to show people, that Africans aren't as bad as they think. A couple of braais with a few beers and the whole place, will look at Africans in a whole new light. He'll fit right in. Watch him employ a couple of the community.

They don't want to give anyone other than an Afrikaans speaking person who holds the covenant dear a chance. They are not discriminating on the basis of colour but on the values of the individual. From what I understand these folk are not the stand around a braai type in any event.
 
They don't want to give anyone other than an Afrikaans speaking person who holds the covenant dear a chance. They are not discriminating on the basis of colour but on the values of the individual. From what I understand these folk are not the stand around a braai type in any event.

Then they will vote against him moving in, on those grounds.
 
Then they will vote against him moving in, on those grounds.

Of course they will. And Shabalala has been an idiot for saying that he'll show them. And most certainly not an astute business man for trying to buy property where it isn't going to give him a return.
 
They don't want to give anyone other than an Afrikaans speaking person who holds the covenant dear a chance. They are not discriminating on the basis of colour but on the values of the individual. From what I understand these folk are not the stand around a braai type in any event.

Those conditions are just an excuse to cover their asses from racist accusations.
 
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